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#1 garyyoss

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 04:03 PM

Need a bit of help.

Went diving the other day and experienced a strange 2 second shutter delay on my Nikon D800 housed in a Sea and Sea housing using a Sigma 15 and then again today with Nikon 16-35.

When I half press the shutter or use the AF-ON button I see that the camera is focusing as my focus points are illuminating, I press the shutter and there is a short delay before the shutter releases. Behaving like a point and shoot. 

After the dive I tried at the surface and there was no delay, took the camera out of the housing and again no delay. I also made sure that there was nothing on the inside of the dome port  that might cause this. The camera is not set on timer release obviously, the focus modeling light is off, very strange.

Jumped back in for the second dive and the same thing was happening.

Can't figure it out but it must have something to do with the pressure.

Appreciate any help.

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 07:00 PM

Is it possible that one of the buttons on the housing is pressing a button on the camera? 


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 07:04 PM

Flash setting on Red Eye?


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 12:41 AM

Like MikeV, I'd suspect a slight misalignment with a button being pressed slightly on the camera.


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 04:42 AM

Here's a long shot to consider. I don't have a D800, but do have a D500 and I assume that the menus are similar. If the delay is consistent in length, there is a setting in Custom called Exposure Delay Mode. It's d5 in the Shooting/Display menu on my D500. I's assume that it's also on the D800.. If that is set to other than off and is somehow getting triggered while UW by pressure, that may cause the problem. This is different than Timer Release. Like I said, this is a real long shot.

 

Also try this. Make sure that you're using AF-C focus mode and set the a1, AF-C Priority Selection to Release. This will cause the camera to fire without the need to achieve focus. If this eliminates the problem, then the camera is, in fact, waiting for focus before firing and, for some reason, it taking an inordinate long time to get focus.

 

Like the others have said, misalignment is the most likely cause. The trick is to figure out which button is getting pressed to cause the problem.

 

I'm not familiar with the S&S housings, but I had an old Aquatica D70 housing that had plastic thread protectors on the end of the rods used to activate the buttons. Occasionally one of those protectiors would work itself loose and contact a button before it was intended to do so. This drove me crazy until I figured that just a slight amount of sea pressure on a button would cause contact with the button when the protector was slightly out of place.

 

Reef Photo isn't too far away. Consider taking the rig into them for a look.

 

Let us know what you find.



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Posted 08 January 2017 - 05:11 AM

Flash setting was not on Red Eye

 

Exposure Delay Mode is off

 

Have my camera set on Focus Release so I'll have to switch the next time to Shutter and see if that makes any difference.

 

The crazy thing is that it does not happen on the boat or when the camera is out of the housing.

 

Thanks everyone for their suggested diagnostics.


Edited by garyyoss, 08 January 2017 - 05:13 AM.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 07:18 AM

Gary

If it's not happening on the boat or outside the housing, I'd say it's almost certainly an alignment issue. As you descend and pressure increases, a housing button is being pushed.

This can be frustrating to track down. If a trip to Reef Photo is doable, I'd suggest that too.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 08:21 PM

One entertaining test is to put a little bit of o-ring grease on the internal side of the buttons in the housing. Then carefully insert camera, take it for a dive without pressing buttons, surface and very carefully remove. If one of your housing buttons is making contact, there will be a grease spot on the camera button. I used this test to identify that one of my housing levers had become misaligned and needed replacement.



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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:50 AM

 

 

Also try this. Make sure that you're using AF-C focus mode and set the a1, AF-C Priority Selection to Release. This will cause the camera to fire without the need to achieve focus. If this eliminates the problem, then the camera is, in fact, waiting for focus before firing and, for some reason, it taking an inordinate long time to get focus.

 

Yes, this could also be it, AF-C definitely the way to go


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:20 AM

I'll try the O-Ring grease on the button test.

 

Mike,

This is only happening when I'm in the water. Was using the camera yesterday and whether in AF-S, AF-C focus or release everything worked.

All buttons seem fine and aligned?


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 06:09 PM

I had this for a while. I then used a focusing light. It sped up the focus and the delay disappeared.
Not enough light makes the auto focus slow.

You aren't using live-view are you? That can be extremely slow in low light conditions.



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:46 AM

The camera is focusing as I see the illuminated focus points in my viewfinder, not using live view.


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