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#21 thetrickster

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 06:20 AM

I’m not sure I could give up the 7” screen now. Although you are right.

The weight saving would be immense!


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#22 thetrickster

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 05:33 AM

TechRadar had earlier released official info.

I took at copy as I was sure it would of been taken down. It was...

https://www.icloud.c...jzPspLJlzbgNjVw

Take away:

No IBIS!
No Internal 4K@60 10bit 422
Max ISO now 51,200 (1 stop better)
Dual ISO - so should be super clean
Improved AF
Included VLOG-L

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Not the upgrade for me I think, especially the removal of IBIS


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#23 Davide DB

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 06:11 AM

For UW shooting the lack of IBIS it's a false problem nevertheless I tried it on land and it's amazing. i could use a vintage Yashica ML 50mm f1.7 handheld while walking. It's like a gimbal.

Rumors sites speculate they removed IBIS because of new sensor (maybe multi aspect like the beloved GH2).

It's a shame there's no 4K/60p 4:2:2.

 

They are simply maximizing their earnings mimicking Sony marketing approach. 


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#24 thetrickster

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 06:35 AM

For UW shooting the lack of IBIS it's a false problem

 

?

 

I'm finding my uw footage much much better with the use of IBIS.

 

And yup, its multi aspect like the GH2! :)


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#25 Davide DB

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 06:40 AM

 

?

 

I'm finding my uw footage much much better with the use of IBIS.

 

 

Of course but it's something you can overcome with good technic and good balance as everybody else.

On the contrary, on land IBIS permits shots simply not achievable without a gimbal.

 

FInally more is better :)


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 07:36 AM

Really disappointed they removed the ibis.. Not gonna upgrade to this camera.
Shame.

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#27 thetrickster

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 07:43 AM

Really disappointed they removed the ibis.. Not gonna upgrade to this camera.
Shame.

 

I agree, i might of been tempted to eventually get the GH5s body as a good mid-term upgrade to extend the life of my housing. But the removal of IBIS really does make the upgrade less appealing.

 

I suppose clever marketing from Panasonic. There is a real clear divide between the GH5 and GH5s


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 07:48 AM

 
I agree, i might of been tempted to eventually get the GH5s body as a good mid-term upgrade to extend the life of my housing. But the removal of IBIS really does make the upgrade less appealing.
 
I suppose clever marketing from Panasonic. There is a real clear divide between the GH5 and GH5s

Agreed. I still have the gh4 and was hoping the 5s would be my new camera but as it is right now the gh5 looks a lot more appealing. How is the low light in the gh5 compared to the gh4 btw? Maybe better asked in the gh5 thread..

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:12 AM

Here it is
https://www.huffingt...4b0cd114bdb350a

It has 4k 60p only at 8bit and no IBIS. Makes it (not such) a tough call whether its worth the upgrade.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:34 AM

Here it is
https://www.huffingt...4b0cd114bdb350a

It has 4k 60p only at 8bit and no IBIS. Makes it (not such) a tough call whether its worth the upgrade.

I was cautiously optimistic that this camera would be a good replacement / companion to my GH5 for use filming deep, dark glass sponge reefs....

Would love to see some real-world footage showing low-light performance.

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#31 Davide DB

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:18 PM

 

 

For everything else from here onward

 

http://www.personal-...ideo-edition/p6


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:39 PM

Honestly I gotta say I'm impressed. I could live with the 8 bit if only they didnt remove the ibis.
Someone with a lot of money to spend could get a 5s with their gh5 and use the 5s for the deeper/ night dives and the gh5 for everything else seeing as they both fit in the same housing.
Us mere mortals will probably stick with the gh5 tho.

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#33 Davide DB

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:41 PM

Us mere mortals will probably stick with the gh5 tho.

 

 

I'm married with a GH3


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:02 PM

As Davide signature righty says
“Your new gear will not make you produce any better art”

High ISO looks great! But I think i would rather buy more lights at this point.




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Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:52 PM

Bigger lights can't really compensate for high ISO tho, unless u can get really close.. Obviously.
For locations where you're shooting sharks and big stuff the 5s would be a better choice IMO, but only in those types of places.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:57 PM

Yeah, that is true in terms of really big stuff.

Don’t go making me, go buy one....

Looking forward to seeing the side by side reviews and how much it’s better on a big monitor. Only seen stuff on my phone so far and that doesn’t do it justice.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 03:05 PM

Yeah, that is true in terms of really big stuff.
Don’t go making me, go buy one....
Looking forward to seeing the side by side reviews and how much it’s better on a big monitor. Only seen stuff on my phone so far and that doesn’t do it justice.
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Haha I take it all back, the camera is useless!

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:05 AM

Very interesting video. Look at the noise in the dark part of the robe at ISO 6400 en 12800 when GH5 en GH5s are compared. Quiet impressive, also compared to the other cameras

 

IBIS: you can't have it all. Bigger sensor also means no extra room to move the sensor around. Then the heat issues, the fact that the loose sensor sometimes broke in professional use (on car suction cups for example) and that the pro's use tripods or gimbals if they really want stable footage. I can understand the trade off.

 

EDIT: furthermore, one can easily stabilise in post production. Which is essentially the same as moving the sensor around.

 

I will wait till the price drops or get me a second hand in a year or so to complement my equipment. It is really nice that the button lay out is the same.


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#39 Davide DB

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:13 AM

Yes, you cannot have it all.

Ad I wrote in another thread, pro video camera don't have IBIS.
It has a 10MP sensor so it means that it has 1:1 sensor pixel / video pixel.
Moreover a cooler sensor hence lower noise.
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:17 AM

i like this guy