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Oly OM-D EM5 upgrade path - what's the logical next move?


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#1 Byte Me

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 08:55 AM

As title states, currently shooting EM5 in a Nauticam housing.  Have 8mm fisheye, 60mm macro, 12-40mm pro with nauticam/zen ports, a pair of Inon Z240 strobes, a pair of Big Blue focus lights.  Big fan of this but have begun thinking about what is next.

 

EM1 is better, from the reviews / comparisons I've read but enough to ditch the EM5?  

EM5 II again, a big enough improvement to warrant a switch?

 

At this point I think the key things that would make me jump are improved image quality and faster auto focus.  Would also love if something had continuous AF.  Other items likely fall into the category of nice to have.  When I see the comparison sites talk about "what's missing" things like in camera panorama, Bluetooth, etc are not must haves.

 

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 09:36 AM

I have the Nauticam EM-5 Mark I kit and recently purchased the EM-1 Mark II camera (currently $1500 USD).  I hope to get the housing before our fall trip to Indonesia.

 

The EM-1 II is super fast and has 4K video.  If you go from the EM-5 I to II you will save beaucoup coins (including very fast and expensive cards) over the EM-1, but I think you would a kit that would be top notch for the future.  Besides, the EM-1 is a great topside camera (currently shooting nesting raptors with a 300 mm lens).

 

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#3 ChrisRoss

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 04:13 PM

Yeah, the EM-1 mkII is the logical upgrade, AF is heaps better, C-AF with Tracking actually works underwater.  My standard arrangement now is C-AF with tracking assigned to the back button for focus.  Very customisable too I use the the presets with settings stored under C1, C2 & C3 on the mode dial.  I currently have C1 as manual flash settings, C2 as TTL settings, C3 could be video.  Topside can do neat stuff like pro capture, hand held HDR, fast frame rates.  I upgraded from EM-5 mkII.  Nauticam housing is well setup with shutter and back button focus nicely assigned to levers around the included grip.



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Posted 21 March 2018 - 06:16 AM

The E-M5mkII has the same sensor as your E-M5. Definitely not worth it to upgrade. If you are going to upgrade, get the E-M1mkII. Or you can wait until fall timeframe and see what Olympus does with the E-M5mkIII which should be coming out soon. Alternatively, you could upgrade to the Panasonic GH5. 


Edited by JMartel, 21 March 2018 - 06:17 AM.


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Posted 21 March 2018 - 08:33 AM

Hi Bite-Me,

 

I still have EM5MII in Nauticam (the second hand NA5MII housing was a real bargain). Great image quality with right lenses/domes (as likely is the case with EM5MI also; I see your lens list contains all the bonbons). I for myself have no need to upgrade. Rate limiting for my photos at present is not the sensor or the camera, its is simply the photographer behind the rig, better camera will not improve results, don't expect too much from upgrade...

In case of upgrade I can only underline what was said above: upgrade is only worth for new 20Mp sensor. If you stay with Nauticam you save everything and have to exchange "just" housing and camera body...

 

Me and my wife are facing a similar dilemma as you: She has an ELP-6 in Oly housing (that also has the same 16Mp sensor, and it is a very good one!) but she cannot use the nice lenses and domes that I have and I still keep collecting - we would have to purchase everything double, makes no sense. We are thinking now whether to go for a well-led second hand EM1MI or EM5MII in Nauticam housing (many people upgrade now to 20Mp) or go instead for futureproof, but 3x expensive, EM1MII...

(As I know me we will go for EM1MII and not for the decent solution (that rationally fulfills all requirements), but we will see who will prevail, me or my wife :))

 

 

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 07:09 PM

I upgraded this year from the EM5 to the EM1 II....it's well worth the upgrade. 

Focus is faster. 

 

Plus the newer Nauticam housings with the integrated handles is a nice change to the older EM5 handles that always flexed.



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Posted 22 March 2018 - 08:22 AM

If upgrading to the new Em1mkII you are looking at about 4000$ (or regional equivalent) in cost to get

- 4 extra MP (negligible)

- slightly more DR (probably useful)

- maybe 1/2 stop high ISO performance (unlikely to matter underwater)

- better AF (I think s-af is already good enough)

- higher burst modes (your flash can't keep up anyway)

- better VF

 

Obviously for above water usage, a lot of these may become more important. I've just recently aquired a used EM5 and unless anything goes wrong that will stay my UW rig for quite some time, but above water I use a GX8.

 

If I had your rig, a bunch of money, and I couldn't stop my GAS I would look at upgrading your strobes. The new Retra or Inon Z330 will probably be a much better IQ upgrade than any new mu43 body.



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Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:42 PM

See here the comparison of the sensors of EM5MII, EM1MII and Nikon D500 (another cropped sensor camera very popular UW), just to document in numbers what hyp was writing...

 

https://www.dxomark...._1136_1061_1006

 

=> If upgrade then to the 20Mp sensor, for 16Mp sensor you can keep EM5. Other investments (lenses, ports, flash) may bring more...



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Posted 23 March 2018 - 11:19 AM

Good points all.  Especially like the idea of staying put and putting that into glass or just improving.  Through this research I've learned a lot, realized that I may in fact have had some settings on the camera sub optimized and now have a new idea on how to move forward with what I've got.

 

Sure the EM1 II would be great but I've never seen that combo used and as others have said, may not be worth the upgrade.  I think I'm in a pretty good place right now and will focus on what's behind the camera :)


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