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#1 Water Rat

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 12:00 AM

I was wandering what other people do. So far, I have fastened the camera to my BC to make sure, that I could have both hands available for other purposes then holding the camera should this be necessary. Is this the common setup or do you use a wrist strap?

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 12:50 AM

I never tie anything thats heavy and bulky to my BC. If you need to make an emergency ascent the last thing you need to worry about is a piece of dead weight attached to you. So unless you have a small point and shoot camera I would recommend not fastening it at all..

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 01:27 AM

Mine is always attached - if you are in deep water you don't want to be going back to look for it. And I would have to cry if it dropped into the abyss.

I use something similar to this :-

http://www.divingnik...CSL&cat=78&nav=


You can choose to have it short or long.

The clips that come with these are often awful - replace with a proper bolt snap ( stainless dog leash clip ).

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 02:22 AM

I do not even use a lanyard.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 02:49 AM

The only time I attach camera to my BC is for shore entries in bonaire...otherwise, it is never attached for the reasons already mentioned.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 04:09 AM

I use lanyard and fast buckle that can be removed in no-time from my BC in case of emergency.
It’s very comfortable in shore dive when I need sometimes my two hands or UW if I have to help my buddy or others divers or want to operate the SMB.
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Posted 17 July 2006 - 04:10 AM

As the responses above indicate, there are different schools of thought on this question. I'm certainly not going to say that any of the are 'wrong'.

For myself, there are situations where I want to be able to have both hands free without necessarily having to ditch a Nikon D2X and its lens, housing, etc., ranging from assisting another diver to such routine tasks as deploying a submersible marker buoy SMB at depth with a spool. I've never seen anyone who could do this one handed. Another situation would be hanging on to a deco stage or mooring line to do a longish stop and not wanting to have to worry about the camera, or have it hanging in an asymmetric fashion that could cause me problems.

Rigged for wide-angle, I have "suicide" clips rigged on both arms near the joint between the 8" or 12" arm sections. I know, it should be a bolt snap, but I found that it was taking me too long to clip on and undo bolt snaps on the surface, after entering and before handing the housing up to the boat in heavy chop.

I can quckly attach either clip to one of the chest d-rings on my backplate harness. With both clipped on, the housing rides symmetrically and the drag isn't too bad. This is what I usually do if I need to deploy a SMB or undertake some other task requiring two hands, if I just want to turn off the camera and enjoy the dive.

For macro, I only have one suice clip on one of the arms.

For shore entries and exits, however, especially around rocks, I keep the camera housing unattached, dome port pointed up or wedged against my stomach, and hope for the best.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 05:24 AM

I wholeheartedly agree with Frogfish. I have a nice large stainless schackle connected to my housing and a large brass clip on my BC. It is easy to attach and detach because of the size of the ring and clip. I intentionally made it that way so I could quickly attach or detach my rig. There are times in heavy current and bad viz when I need two hands free, or even assisting divers as Robert pointed out. I'd hate to drop that thing in 10 foot viz in 200 feet of water while decompressing. I would never find it again. Splain that one to your agent Lucy. However, I don't usually clip it on the BC while "making the dive" unless something comes up.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 07:50 AM

I've been in such a situation where I needed to drop my Subal housing, my then girlfriend (now wife) accidentally lowered her hand on some stinging hydrocoral and got nearly a hundred stings into her right hand. Her first response was to shoot to the surface, luckily I was about 5 feet away and was able to grab a hold of her. Later, she said that she was impressed that I dropped my multi-thousand dollar camera rig for her....then she saw the 80 lb test cord with climbing rated carabiners on the camera... :lol:

A quick trip to your local sporting goods superstore and about $3 bucks worth of high strength cord and 10 bucks in carabiners will perform better than any loopy type commercial clip in the market.

1 carabiner (no small clips to fumble around with big dry gloves for me!) on your BCD and another clipped to your housing by either the manufacturer supplied mounting hole or one you drill yourself and you're done.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 08:09 AM

A 100 mm carabiner attached to my BC d-ring on a shoulder strap clips onto a bit of the ULCS ironmongery attaching my strobes or the base plate to the camera. Easily attached/detached when necessary, however the camera is rarely out of my hand.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 12:28 PM

HI,

I use a lanyard made from 1" webbing & I clip it to my BC, it is 450mm

long & fastened to my housing by a bolted (O) ring. On the point of causing

a posible problem in an emergency I would think that most BCs would have

enough lift to get you to the surface.

Andy :lol: :huh: :lol: :rolleyes:

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 02:14 PM

Comments from a rookie diver (50<dives).

I found it nearly impossible, at the very least with great difficulty, to descend or ascend properly without my camera attached to my BC. Ie...how does one hold onto a camera, clear your ears and add air to the BC as you descend? Similarly, how do you ascend, let air out, and keep and eye on your depth? I too use a carabiner attached to a cord like the one PRC posted. Attached to the lower left D-ring...although I'm rethinking this a little. It remains attached to the BCD throughout the dive and is protected by a the bungie cord in case of an accidental drop or in case I need to lend assistance to my buddy.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 03:13 PM

I also usually tie my camera to my BCD using a short length of rope and 2 snap bolts. I regularly dive in rough seas, or with lots of current, or on deep walls, or all 3 at the same time. Tying the camera is almost a must for sending an SMB to the surface, especially in these conditions. Besides, my rigs are very close to neutrally buoyant, so I only have to fight the added drag, not so much the weight itself.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 06:41 PM

I regularlly do not clip my camera to my BC.
HOWEVER, I do have a large ring atttached to the housing in the event that I need both hands.
When diving where the bottom is far away, oil rigs, I do use a coiled lanyard in case I get narc'ed and decide to lay the camera down.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 07:11 PM

No leash. Just a boltsnap on the bottom of the left handle.

I rarely use it (at the left hip), except for shooting a bag, or scootering, or gas switches...hmmm....I guess I use it more than I think....

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 02:34 AM

Thank you for all of you replies. There is a lot of inspiration to find here. I think I’ll try the setup described by frogfish to start off with.

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 11:11 AM

As noted, there are different schools of thought, from the "don't attach things, it's a hazard" view to "double cabled/fused to hand approach".

I've done it both ways. I used to have a coiled lanyard. I found it could get caught easily on things. The worst part is that I would use some of time, but no always. When I had a real emergency during a night dive, I dropped the housing, thinking it was attached. It wasn't. It took 3 hours to find it the next day.

I no longer use a cord of any kind. I have a bolt snap that allows me to attach the rig to a d-ring if I need to.

I've had to come to the aid of others and so far I've been close enough to my buddy to just hand them the rig instead of clipping it off.

I've also reattached mask strap/mouth piece to 2nd stage and shot a lift bag while holding the rig between my legs. Uh, obviously not all at the same time.

My tip is that if you do attach it, be consistent. Don't make the same stupid, lame, braindead mistake I made.
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 09:07 AM

I have a loop of climbing rope attached to a D-ring at my left hip with a cow hitch knot (loose ends secured with zipties). The loop then passes through a stainless steel bolt snap, with the whole thing being about 5" long. I attach the bolt snap to a ring on the housing when I want both hands free (such as shooting SMB's, hanging off lines, assisting others etc etc). I don't have the camera attached to me at all times, only when I want it out of the way.

Even with the 9" dome port, a long strobe arm (folded) and a reasonably sized housing, I find this method minimises interference between myself and the camera, it just floats off to my side like an expensive and loyal puppy.
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 04:30 AM

Hi Craig
You wouldn't happen to have a picture of this?

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 09:24 AM

I'll take a more detailed shot of the whole shebang this evening and post it to this thread.


This image on another photographer's site shows the end result (it is me...), note that the housing is hanging towards my left hip while I am floating horizontally with no hands on the camera.
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