Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:23 PM
I've also read that 1920x1080-50/60p will have to be recorded to the new recorder and not internally. Hopefully the recorder will mount nicely to the camera somehow.
Would so much rather have cameras by a big manufacturer with a proper international support network, than a Red, when based in SE Asia and working in remote places.
Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:41 PM
But the fella in that abelcine video I linked to was on about 12 bit raw. I find these bits a bit confusing.
Maybe that's for the 4k upgrade??? I know it's a box of crazy arsed frogs... Somehow I don't think Sony will be giving us a pro-Sumer cam that's the complete package... As mentioned above other sales F3 etc will take a hit? I was told (once again) yesterday by a beeb series prod that external Recording devices like the Nano are frowned upon because of unreliability issues? I don't know as i haven't used one yet ... Hopefully next week though ... Maybe this is Sonys new direction lots of 'updates' and external 'add-ons'
Still looks like a little gem...
Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:43 PM
"Journalism is what someone else does not want printed, everything else is public relations."
"I was born not knowing, and have only had a little time to change that here and there.
Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:18 AM
I love him really I just play on the fact he wishes he had an Ex1 instead of a silly DSLR or a Sony (plastic toy) FS100
FS100>7D>EX1 any day!
Seriously though the FS700 looks a gem which is going to be VERY competitively priced considering what it is offering. If I'd known I would definitely have waited to buy the FS700 over the FS100 for nothing else than the high frame rates, but hey that's life. If the FS700 is as good in low light as the FS100 (which is unbelievably good) then it will be a corker of a camera with a future upgrade path to 4K. What is there not to like about that??
My Scarlet order is still open, but I've got to question that now more than ever with the recent camera announcements. Looks like RED messing up could have done me a favour!
Edited by SimonSpear, 14 April 2012 - 04:29 AM.
Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:36 PM
Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:17 PM
DSLR's are really bad when it comes to this, even at higher bitrates.
And the stock 18-200mm lens, looks like its got pretty good auto focus hey.
Wack a Tokina 11-16 mm lens on it...perfect.
Now the 100 or 700 which way to go now mmm.
Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:10 PM
Found a video here from the FS100 underwater.
Downloaded the raw file loaded up to Vimeo too.
I can see red circular compression reflection kind of thing and the guy did not clean his port too well before he got in :-)
I think the lens was way too wide too.
Anyhow I suppose this gives one an idea of what the underwater footage would be like from a FS700, get a 4K recorder and then you are in 12 bit.
Would not have to zoom then, just do it all in post :-)
Posted 15 April 2012 - 02:32 AM
Regarding banding - I'm sure there is going to be some show up somewhere, but the AVCHD codec shouldn't put you off. When AVCHD first came around it was generally on lower end consumer cameras and I hated it like most others did, however as it progressed onto more pro cameras it has really come into its own as a codec. Of course on the Genesis you will also have the ability to use the Ninja as an external monitor/high bitrate ProRes capture device which is an innovative solution for broadcast specs if required.
I'm not sure my FS100 will ever get underwater, but I'd say after using it topside that it is capable of way more than that sample video showed. The only thing that does worry me slightly is the green colour cast of the water. Sony cameras for the last few years have all seemed to lean towards green colours underwater and this could be an indication that this trend has continued. Sony HD camcorders have also to some degree been difficult to MWB below 15m and when you compare that against just how remarkable HDSLR's have been in getting great WB results at depth even without filers then it is something for me to consider when deciding whether to purchase a housing or not.
Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:25 AM
If the only negative, for the FS700, against DSLRs Is W/B then surely that's a very small negative?
Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:19 AM
If we are all shooting RAW in a couple of years time then MWB does become moot, but for anyone right now not employing a colourist or just handing over footage ungraded it is still an essential function to get it as right as possible in camera IMO.