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#21 adamhanlon

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 10:26 PM

This debate raises some interesting issues, and it is good to hear the way that Waynegor feels on this issue. Too often I think we only hear the voices that support one side of the argument, and I had not considered the point that it may be perceived as unfair to ban the eating of shark fin whilst the eating of the rest of the shark is allowed.

However, what he seems to be missing is the size of the shark fin trade as opposed to the "whole shark" (if I may call it that) trade. The demand for shark fin is unsustainable and is very likely to wipe out sharks in the world's oceans. If we prioritize the exploitation of sharks in terms of the threat to them, number one is the finning industry, and number two is actually sharks caught as by-catch by long line fishermen. There is no viable demand for whole shark as a food stuff.

The attempt to ban the sale of shark fin is a global conservation issue, not a cultural one. Without a demand for shark fin, sharks would not be in the precarious position that they are now in.

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"Commercial fisheries targeting sharks exist throughout the world. Sharks are sought primarily for their fins (for shark fin soup) and their meat but also for their cartilage,liver and skin.

73 million sharks are killed every year, according to a 2000 analysis of the Hong Kong shark fin trade. Many scientists estimate that at least 100 million sharks are killed annually, including sharks caught for other products, such as meat.

Shark populations have declined by as much as 70 to 80 percent, according to global reports. Some populations, such as the porbeagle shark in the northwestern Atlantic and spiny dogfish in the northeastern Atlantic, have been reduced by up to 90 percent.

Thirty percent of all shark and ray species are now Threatened or Near Threatened with extinction, and accurate scientific assessments cannot be done on an additional 47percent of the species because of a lack of data.

The highest numbers of reported shark landings are from: Indonesia; India; Taiwan, Province of China; Spain; and Mexico.

The catching of sharks in fisheries that target other species (bycatch)is frequently reported in open-sea longline fisheries targeting tuna and swordfish and can represent as much as 25 percent of the total catch. This bycatch is considered to be a major source of mortality for many shark species worldwide.

Blue sharks make up a particularly large proportion of shark bycatch in open-sea fisheries (47 to92 percent).

The value of shark fins has increased with economic growth in Asia (particularly China), and this increased value is a major factor in the commercial exploitation of sharks worldwide. One bowl of shark fin soup can cost US$100.

Sharks play an important role in maintaining the structure and function of the ecosystem. They regulate the variety and abundance of the species below them in the food chain. Impacts from the loss of sharks can be felt throughout the entire marine environment.

Live sharks have a significant value for marine ecotourism (such as recreational diving, snorkelling, and shark watching) that is more sustainable and often far more valuable than their worth to fisheries. Whale shark tourism, for example, is estimated to be worth $47.5 million annually worldwide, and shark tourism activities in the Bahamas generate $78 million annually for the Bahamian economy.

To reverse declines in shark populations, shark sanctuaries should be established, and strong, science-based management should be put in place by all fishing countries and international bodies that regulate shark fishing and trade"


I do not feel that anyone here has stated that Chinese people should be "demonized as uncivilized, cruel and anti-conservation". However, the cold hard fact is that unless we attempt to control the shark fin industry, we will wipe out an apex predator that will have dreadful consequences for the state of the world's oceans.

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#22 xariatay

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 10:15 PM

Thanks, Adam.

Can't give me a good reason, right!
To demonize a minority group will not solve the issues, my way or highway approach will create more resistance!
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The reason is we don't need shark fin soup to live/survive. Nobody will die if they don't eat shark fin. If they like shark fin so much, why not try the mock fin? I had, in a vegetarian restaurant & the soup tasted very good & the texture of the mock fin was the same as the real one. Note that I gave up eating shark fin & shark after becoming a diver & realise the damage the Soup is doing to the population of sharks & in turn our marine ecosystem.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:07 AM

Can't give me a good reason, right!
To demonize a minority group will not solve the issues, my way or highway approach will create more resistance!
Only work hard in the right way will solve the issues!

Waynegor, you are quite right, that we should not demonize a minority group. The fact is, the whole world is involved in the trade in shark fin. We are all aware of the shark fishing that goes on around Ecuador, Costa Rica etc, but we do tend to stick our head in the sand when it comes to our own failings. The EU fishing fleet have boats stationed permanently in the Indian Ocean (including UK flagged vessels, managed by DEFRA) that target blue shark and mako shark, both listed as threatened in some way on the IUCN Red List, I believe there are shark finning depots in Queensland (although I'm preparing myself for a flaming for daring to mention it). The only reason they are out there is the high return they can expect from the shark fin. Remove that element, you can be sure that those boats would shift their attention elsewhere, the meat itself is relatively low value, and realistically sharks aren't exactly an easy catch to manage!

So we cannot simply point a finger at the chinese and asian markets. We are all part of this mess, from the supply route all the way through to consumption.

This is why the Californian bill is so important, it leads the way in the world, to take responsbility for your own back yard, first and foremost. Hopefully it will set the example for others to follow, perhaps we will then see better quota management from fisheries around the world, god forbid we may even see all IUCN red listed marine species reflected in the CITES appendices, and afforded the same protection as endangered land species currently get.

Any step toward that nervada is hugely positive. Trying to use the pretence of cultural or racial discrimination to stop these conservation efforts is totally misplaced, it is not just a chinese/asian problem, it also has huge implications to the lives and profitability of fisherfolk throughout the world.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:31 PM

http://www.leginfo.c...4_sen_comm.html

UNOFFICIAL BALLOT
MEASURE: AB 376
AUTHOR: Fong
TOPIC: Shark fins.
DATE: 06/28/2011
LOCATION: SEN. N.R. & W.
MOTION: Do pass, but re-refer to the Committee on Appropriations.
(AYES 7. NOES 0.) (PASS)

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The opposition (some restaurants, mostly) have come together and hired high-priced lobbyists. They (the restaurant owners) know they don't enjoy the majority opinion (on the shark fin issue) here in California, so they're trying to buy their way out of being eco-responsible.

PLEASE: Contact the state senators serving on the Appropriations committee listed below (whether or not it's your Senator) and tell them how you feel about this bill... BEFORE AUG 14TH. This is California's big eco issue for the year and we can't let some rich lobbyists deter us now!
Senator Christine Kehoe (Chair): (San Diego, Del Mar, Lemon Grove) (916) 651-4039 senator.kehoe@sen.ca.gov
Senator Mimi Walters (Vice Chair): (Orange, Lake Forest, Laguna Hills, Mission Viejo) (916) 651-4033 senator.walters@sen.ca.gov
Senator Elaine Alquist: (San Jose, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, Mountain View) (916) 651-4013 senator.alquist@sen.ca.gov
Senator Bill Emmerson: (Palm Springs, Palm Desert, Idyllwild) (916) 651-4037 senator.emmerson@sen.ca.gov
Senator Ted W. Lieu: (Torrance, El Segundo, Manhattan Beach, Redondo Beach) (916) 651-4028 senator.lieu@sen.ca.gov
Senator Fran Pavley: (HUGE area including Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Agoura Hills) (916) 651-4023 senator.pavley@sen.ca.gov
Senator Curren Price: (Los Angeles, Hollywood, Crenshaw, South Central) (916) 651-4026 senator.price@sen.ca.gov
Senator Sharon Runner: (Lancaster/Palmdale, Santa Clarita, Granada Hills) (916) 651-4017 senator.runner@sen.ca.gov
Senator Darrell Steinberg: (Sacramento) (916) 651-4006 senator.steinberg@sen.ca.gov
Call them all! Tell them you're a Ca citizen and you want the will of the people to be done!
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Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:50 PM

AB376 is again delayed - for another 10days or so. http://www.ktsf.com/...81611shark.html There is a video in Mandarin but the testimonies are in English...
Please help! Call them!
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 06:47 PM

:B): :dance: :dance: http://latimesblogs....n-advances.html "The bill passed the Senate Appropriations Committee on a 5-2 vote and now moves to the Senate floor, where a vote is expected within the next few weeks." :good: :good: :good:

Awareness campaigns in China... http://www.china.org...938731663059104
Attitude towards sharks can change and not everyone is stubborn...
imho, sfs are featured more prominantly in the menu of the southern coastal cities. Migrants fr there brought this "habit" w them to SE Asia n other countries... I have many colleagues who are Chinese fr different parts of PRC, they are able to accept my sharings about sharks & the need to stop having sfs, in fact, 2 of them changed the sfs out at their wedding (small) banquets at my request & the others promised not to order. I have more problems getting the Singaporean Chinese descendants of the coastal migrants to change their minds, that include my closer relatives... Note: I am also a descendant of coastal migrants fr China, my grandparents were from China. ;-)
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Posted 06 September 2011 - 06:31 PM

Just to give everyone an update, the law has passed the California Legislature today and was sent to the Governor, who should sign it. Full news article here:

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:32 AM

Just to give everyone an update, the law has passed the California Legislature today and was sent to the Governor, who should sign it. Full news article here:


Please, if you see this today (Wednesday, September 7) please call Governor Jerry Brown's office at 916/445-2841 and encourage him to sign AB 376 into law! It only takes a moment.

The sharks thank you.

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