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#1 jasonhartup

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 10:05 PM

I have loved my d300 camera but have grown tired of waiting for the mythical D400 and I am ready for a change.  I used to do more macro but have found myself now about 50/50 with macro and wide angle.  I purchased a new D7100 and housing for my wife and its nice but just does not seem to have everything I want and I have noticed a lot of people have made the switch to FX cameras like the D800 / 810 etc.   My first thought is to get a used D800E and housing to try it out. My lenses would not change much I primarily use a 105mm , 60mm, and Tokina 10-17mm so the only one I would replace is the tokina (which my wife tends to hog anyway) I would replace it with either a 16mm or sigma 15mm.  Anyway any thoughts pros cons for those who have made a similar switch.



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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:11 PM

I have been waiting as well.

 

I think the new FX cameras in DX made will give us a similar resolution to the mystical D400, but with a better IQ.  

 

I am considering the D750 vs D810.  I think the only advantage of the D810 over the D750, is the D810 will give a faster synch speed (1/800) vs the 1/250 speed of the D750.

 

Above the surface, I think the D750 excels, but below, I think we need that faster synch speed for stones.

 

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:48 AM

I use the 16mm Nikkor but I think most people prefer the Sigma 15mm due to its closer minimum focal distance a lower price.

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:06 AM

Hey Jason

 

I stopped waiting and moved from the D300 to the D800 18 months ago. Like you I loved the D300 and was very happy with the results. Makes me wonder why I changed.. LOL....  And like you I used the Nikkors 60, 105 and Tokina 10-17.

 

Bad news first: no surprise the Tokina had to go. I switched to the Nikkor 16-35 which I had bought anyway for topside with a D700.  Then I discovered the 8" dome produced soft edges. Ouch. I have just ordered a 9" domeport. Ouch again. Sadly my beloved 60mm had developed a major attack of mould and wasn't repairable. So I now use just the 105 and 16-35. (I heard a whisper Santa might be bringing me the Sigma 15mm. I love that guy). So apart from losing the Tokina and the cost of a 9" dome, the only real drawbacks I have found with the FX are the extra size and weight: nearly everything used to fit in my Pelican 1510 case. They sure don't now; The EXR for the 16-35 is huge too (90mm against 13/20mm for the Tokina). And I no longer have a neat Zen 100 port.

 

Advantages: the ability to crop is awesome especially for macro; resolution (wow), shades of blue (delicious), sunbursts (yep); I use a Subal housing and, with the D800, can now use fibre optic connections and have TTL. No more dodgy Sea&Sea Cables; I can disconnect strobes mid-dive and use them remotely.

 

I ended up selling a Subal ND30, Tokina 10-17 with port/EXR/zoom ring, an 8" port and EXRs, 2x D300s and Nikkors 10.5, 12-24, 18-200, Sea&Sea cables and a Heinrich Weikamp. And bought a D800, a 9" dome, new EXR, zoom-ring, 16-35 (and 28-300 for topside) and fibre cables. My partner insisted on a business case - and, surprise, surprise, it came out quite well.... the additional costs were not too grim. 

 

I'm really happy with the system, delighted with the results - but I do fear slightly moving all the gear by air. It is significantly heavier and bulkier.


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:40 AM

You can find crazy good deals on D800 bodies right now, so that's what I did. I also picked up a demo Nauticam NA-D800 II housing for it. I already had the 105 and 60 for Macro. I'll get a SMC before my next trip where I'll shoot macro, having used a Subsee +10 previously.

 

I went with the Sigma 15mm fisheye for WA, and may get a 16-35 or 17-35 in the future, but not sure yet. I am still trying to decide what dome port to get while in process of trying to sell my 10-17, zen 100mm dome, and zoom gear etc. Fortunately my D7000 housing and bodies sold quickly.


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Posted 02 December 2014 - 01:04 AM

....   the D810 will give a faster synch speed (1/800) vs the 1/250 speed of the D750.

 

 

 

Are you sure that do you obtains Synch speed of 1/800?

 

Nikon's specs indicates:

 

Flash sync speed X=1/250 s; synchronizes with shutter at 1/320 s or slower (flash range drops at speeds between 1/250 and 1/320 s)

 

Nikon's specs here: http://imaging.nikon...r/d810/spec.htm


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 06:09 PM

 

 

<<Are you sure that do you obtains Synch speed of 1/800?

 

Nikon's specs indicates:

 

Flash sync speed X=1/250 s; synchronizes with shutter at 1/320 s or slower (flash range drops at speeds between 1/250 and 1/320 s)>>

 

Nikon's specs here: http://imaging.nikon...r/d810/spec.htm

 

 No,  am not.  I just regurgitated info form this review:

 

 

Would love to hear more info about the comparison of D750 vs D810, while considering U/W photography.

 

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:32 PM

According to some chatter on Nikonians and DPreview, the D800/810 will sync up to 1/800 with essentially a 20% crop of the bottom of the picture, so while you won't get the full field of view you'll get a bitter than DX crop of a full frame shot.  At 1/400, it only crops about 10%.  One poster on Nikonians illustrated with cropped shots of a white background shot with a D800 at 1/400, 1/720 and 1/800.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 05:27 PM

Nikon is discounting the D7100, so it would appear it's replacement is around the corner.


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 02:06 AM

Decided to give FX a try getting a D800E.



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Posted 08 December 2014 - 09:22 AM

I think that the D7100 is the best all-round underwater camera on the market. Alex


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Posted 08 December 2014 - 11:10 AM

I think that the D7100 is the best all-round underwater camera on the market. Alex

Interesting!  I have been looking at going FX for a couple of years and never considered DX and the 7100 as an upgrade.  Hmmm

 

Alex, what are your thoughts comparing the D750 and D810 for FX?  For both wide angle and macro?

 

Anyone else?

 

Thanks


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Posted 08 December 2014 - 12:49 PM

I think that the D7100 is the best all-round underwater camera on the market. Alex

HI Alex or anyone

 

was wondering if the Nikon 10.5mm FE image quality holds up going from 12MP (my d300) to the 24MP of the d7100?

 

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 08:23 PM

I have the D7100 and 10.5 works very well. Wish I could say that for my Tokina 10-17, it is kind a fuzzy compared to the 10.5. I already had a Nikon 14-24 and all I needed was a gear and a port extension and I have found that to work very well too, very sharp real good for larger fish portraits and I haven't tried it yet but I am thinking this will be on my next shark dive.


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