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SB800 and... DS125 or Inon D2000 as TTL slave ?


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#1 Claude

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 10:44 AM

Hi - I'm about to replace my F100 with the D200... and would like to know if these 2 combinations are working in TTL mode:
- SB800 with a DS125 slave
- SB800 with an Inon D2000 slave
Any experience about these configurations?
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#2 james

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 11:54 AM

Hi Claude,

Neither will work very well. The SB800 fires a dozen preflashes before it fires the main flash, all within milliseconds. So your slave strobe will just get totally screwed up. It may fire on the first preflash, then recycle a bit and fire at the main flash, but with only diminished power. If you want to give it a try, you need a strobe that recycles very fast, and these two are both fast strobes.

If I were you, I'd just get 2 DS125's

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 12:32 PM

If I were you, I'd just get 2 DS125's

Hi James...
What's about TTL in that conf ? it doesn't work I think - I'm right ?
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Posted 17 December 2005 - 12:53 PM

Hi Claude,

That depends. Ikelite offers TTL housings which work in iTTL with their strobes.

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#5 Claude

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 01:03 PM

I'm used to Subal... would't be easy to change for Ikelite ;)
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Posted 17 December 2005 - 03:50 PM

My divebuddy tried single SB800 with DS125 and Sea and Sea YS-90 as slave and they did not mixed well at all as the SB 800 will not compensate for the slave strobe.
You can use 2 SB800s but only in Sealux housing as there is a little clear window so the strobes can communicate with each other upto a certain distance (not very far). Subal housing for SB800 does not have this window (don't know about the current production but the earlier version, anyhow).

Ikelite has mentioned in the past that they are planning on making a built in iTTL converter into the sync cord so eventually you can shoot iTTL with Ikelite DS strobes without Ikelite housing but I am not sure when that will become available.
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Posted 17 December 2005 - 05:04 PM

Or you can shoot in manual, it is incredibly easy with digital. Look here:

http://wetpixel.com/...?showtopic=6199

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#8 Claude

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 10:57 AM

Or you can shoot in manual, it is incredibly easy with digital. Look here:
http://wetpixel.com/...?showtopic=6199

I saw that discussion... I'm used to shoot in manual for WA - but would prefer, if there is a way for, to find a TTL solution !

What's about a SB800 in TTL mode and a plugged strobe in manual mode ?

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Posted 27 December 2005 - 01:01 PM

I have been playing around today with the D200 and SB800 on land using an Inon 220F in slave mode. Most shots were in the usual macro configuration as I use underwater, amazingly the Inon was duplicating the SB gun both in iTTL and manual. It is fast enough to cope with the preflashes and the main flash even when
I had f22 set. and not one duff shot. It did not work on full manual (- with SB800 set to iTTL), but dial in -1and1/2 stop and it coped with the preflash. Hopefully this will work underwater too ! What the burst of preflashes will do to skittish fish is another matter, it seems quite noticeable to me, but there is always full manual to fall back on.

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 11:31 AM

An interesting button on the D200 is the Function button. One option for iTTL flash is to use FV lock, so do a test by pressing the Function button, the preflashes determine the exposure without firing the main flash, now releasing the shutter just fires the main flash - useful if using an optically triggered slave!
After a series of shots, press the Function button again to release the setting.

I hope housing manufactures will include a control for this useful button !
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:26 PM

<_< You can set the SB800 not to emit pre-flashes by setting it as a master flash unit in wireless multiple flash [SU-4 mode if you use the Sealux] or by setting the flash head to vertical position [like in the Subal housing]. Then you can use the Inon strobe as a slave triggered by the light sensor or use a DS-125 with Ike's TTL sensor. The Inon or the Ike will follow in sync the SB800 although the SB800 will only work in Non-TTL Aperture [A] or Auto Aperture mode [AA] with the D200 and that might be a problem since to work requires the housing to have a window for the SB800 built-in sensor [which only the Sealux housing does]. Of course that Manual mode works.With an S2 this set-up will do TTL. :o
PS: I have no association whatsoever with Sealux and as far as I am concerned their products have good manufacturing but their customer service is absolute rubbish ;) .
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