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#1 Dakine

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 04:47 PM

I'm upgrading to a 5D soon and I'm hoping to get some better corners and maybe go a little wider then the 27mm equivalent that I got out of the 20D and 17-40l.

Does anyone have any experience with the 20mm 2.8, 24mm 2.8, 28mm 2.8 or even the 15mm fisheye with a fullframe camera and ike's 8' dome? I hear that the 15mm fisheye with a TC is another option?

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 04:57 PM

Hi Ryan,

From your list, I have experience w/ the 15mm. I also have the 24mm f1.4

The 20mm is supposed to be not good at all. The 24mm f2.8 is decent (the f1.4 is great). The 28mm f2.8 is supposed to be good.

Also good are the 17mm f3.5 Tokina and the Sigma 20mm f1.8 although w/ the Sigma, you are supposed to try a few and keep the "good" one.

The 15mm is a fabulous lens on this camera, you'll love it. I'd start there, and w/ your 17-40. If you want wider and sharper try the Sigma 20mm.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 06:10 PM

I had the Canon 24/2.8 and the Canon 28/2.8 I still have the 24.

The 24 was much better than the 28. Though as James said the 24/1.4 is the one to get if you've got the money.

I also have the Sigma 15mm Fisheye which is supposed to be as good as the canon and a little cheaper.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 01:11 AM

I have a 20 Canon which has softish corners on land but doesn't seem to get much worse underwater - I know several Pros using this lens without worry though! I'll second James's comments on the 24/1.4 - its my 'standard' underwater wide lens. I've no experience of the 24/2.8 or 28/2.8 but have a 35/2 which is 'adequate' but not a patch on the 35/1.4 so my suspicions are as already commented, that both the 24/2.8 and 28/2.8 will be adeaquate rather than stellar too.

I've used various Sigmas over the years and as a generailsation I would say that their optics are pretty reasonabler but that their mechanics are not as good as those from Canon and Nikon - just my opinion though - and they become uneconomic to repair far more quickly.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 11:37 AM

Thanks for the tips guys!

It figures...the 24 2.8 is just about the only lens not eligible for the double rebate. So I might try the fisheye as well.

It looks like the 24 1.4 is too damn fat again to fit through the port opening on the housing. That is my only niggle with ikelite, I hate having to take the port/lens off everytime I want to get to my flash card.

Edited by Dakine, 01 February 2007 - 11:40 AM.


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Posted 01 February 2007 - 12:30 PM

According to Ikelite's port chart the 24/1.4 fits in both the 6" port #5503.50 and the 8" port #5510.16.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 12:36 PM

Ryan,

William is correct. Canon 24mm F1.4 fits in Ikelite's port opening.

Check classified area if you want to try a 6" port first. I don't have hte lens for the #5503.50 dome port anymore.

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 12:50 PM

Ryan,

William is correct. Canon 24mm F1.4 fits in Ikelite's port opening.

Check classified area if you want to try a 6" port first. I don't have hte lens for the #5503.50 dome port anymore.

dhaas



Sorry guys I shoud have been more specific. The lens fits in the port just fine but it does not fit all the way through the the opening in the housing. 77mm is too fat, so you need to take the port off then unmount the lens from the camera before you can remove the camera from the housing.

Stupid...I just realized that that problem was only caused by the zoom gear on the lens so that shouldn't be a problem with a prime.

Edited by Dakine, 01 February 2007 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 01 February 2007 - 02:57 PM

I'll just add my endorsement of the 24 f/1.4 and the 15mm fisheye. Both great lenses for wide angle on a full frame camera!

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 07:57 PM

Well, I ordered the 5D, Ike's housing, the 15 fisheye and the 24/2.8 along with a bunch of other goodies.

I tried to go with the 24/1.4 but my credit card started to overheat from all the action. :) Damn, full frame doesn't come cheap. A D200+housing costs about the same as the 5D.

Proost! :blink:

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 08:27 AM

I tried to go with the 24/1.4 but my credit card started to overheat from all the action. :) Damn, full frame doesn't come cheap.



Ahhhh, I feel your pain ! :blink:

If you still have your 20D stuff and want to part with it, you might try listing it here in the classifieds. The fine folks at Wetpixel were good enough to relieve me of mine (along with a bunch of EF-S lenses)...which helped get me out of hot water on the home front.

You'll love the 5D. My aging eyes really appreciate that BIG viewfinder. Wideangle takes on a whole new meaning.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 10:18 AM

Looking through there was mention that the 20mm F2.8 canon is all the great. could someone elaborate on this as this lense is on my list for later this year i dont mind spending money on good glass but i like to be informed. what the angle coverage difference between the 20 and 24 L

Then besides cost whats the differences between the canon and sigma 15mm FE

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 11:14 AM

20mm = 94 degrees
24mm = 84 degrees

I've never used the 20mm but reviews tend to be pretty bad. You can read about it here. http://www.the-digit...ens-Review.aspx

The sigma 20mm gets much better reviews.

Sigma 15 vs canon 15

Both lenses are very sharp. Some people claim that the canon may be a little sharper in the corners but I have never seen a any comparison showing this.

Biggest pro for Sigma 15mm is that focuses closer.
Biggest pro for Canon 15mm is that it says Canon on it.
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Posted 13 February 2007 - 04:49 PM

Well I figured I'd let you guys know how it worked out. I had a chance to try my new gear yesterday and James was right. I think the 15mm fish is my new favorite lens. Corners are way better than my 17-40 and the perspective is awesome. I also found out that this lens is extremely resistant to flare.

I humbly present you with two shots from my first dive here

(the turtle was defished using the excellent fisheye-hemi plugin)

Cheers!

Ryan

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 09:55 PM

I'll just add my endorsement of the 24 f/1.4 and the 15mm fisheye. Both great lenses for wide angle on a full frame camera!


I love my 5D and I recommend you the Sigma 15mm FE (cheaper and focus close), Canon 24mm 1.4 or 2.8, but I am not recommend you 17-40L because it isnt't good at corners..

Don't care about 5D price, just try to get some WA pictures using your 5D and Landscape picture styles, the blue will change your mind about price... hehe..

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 11:43 AM

...Sigma 15 vs canon 15

Both lenses are very sharp. Some people claim that the canon may be a little sharper in the corners but I have never seen a any comparison showing this.

Biggest pro for Sigma 15mm is that focuses closer.
Biggest pro for Canon 15mm is that it says Canon on it.


I just realized I didn't specify, but my 15mm FE is the Sigma, and I've been very happy with it. Most of my lenses are Canons, but in this case, everything I read said there was no advantage to the Canon over Sigma, and I've been totally happy with the Sigma.

BTW, here's an interesting chart posted or referenced by someone a while back (probably James, since he is such a fountain of information!) showing the different coverage angles of different lenses:

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 04:54 AM

Fabio,

How do you set Landscape Picture Style? I've been having problems getting nicely saturated JPEG's from the 5D.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 05:59 AM

James,

Pre-set shooting selection:

http://www.steves-di...ews/5d_pg4.html

dhaas :)
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 09:25 AM

Canon link on Picture Styles:
http://web.canon.jp/...estyle/shooting
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