WTB: Lembeh Muck Stick
Posted 20 May 2007 - 05:42 AM
I'm looking to find another muck stick like the one I picked up at LBR. It's basically a metal rod that has a second metal clamp section (nice for attaching to a D-ring).
Short of going back to Lembeh, has anyone seen these available for purchase online?
Posted 20 May 2007 - 06:42 AM
Posted 20 May 2007 - 07:55 AM
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 04:59 PM
Then use a dremel to make a hole and insert a key ring into it....
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 05:54 PM
What is a muck stick really used for? The only time I dived with someone with a muck stick was in Bali when the dive guide was using it to force the poor frog fish out of a hole and lift the spanish dancer to show us it can swim which I found rather annoying. I'm assuming there must be a proper purpose for a muck stick
A stick isn't necessary to abuse wildlife, but there are uses I consider legitimate. Perhaps the most important is to help a diver position and move him/herself in difficult places with lots of live corals, sponges, etc. There are reefs so alive that it's difficult for a gloved hand to touch anything without the risk of damage, but there are usually at least a few small areas of rock or dead coral - big enough for the end of the stick to be be placed to stabilize the diver or assist with movements. I've also used mine to anchor myself in sand in a strong current.
Turning over rocks and rubble (searching for boxer crabs and other crustaceans), etc. falls within the pale as far as I'm concerned. I don't wear gloves except in very cold water, so a stick is good for this. I've also used my stick to gently reposition a crinoid out of the way so I can shoot something behind it. (It goes back again), to softly stroke crinoids on their feet to induce them to open their arms for a quick glance or shot of a clingfish, squat lobster or commensal shrimp living inside. To attract octopus and stomatopods to come out of their holes, which sometimes works. On abyssal walls infested with crown-of-thorns, to stab cots and then carry them out over the deep and let them go. And once to encourage a stone fish to move to deeper water. (It had been resting in the sand in very shallow water near where local kids were swimming and wading barefoot.)
Sturdy, decent-sized stainless steel rods are better than radio antennas for use in stabilizing or epositioning oneself, though a sturdy chopstick (which was always Larry Smith's favorite) will do.
Frogfish (Robert Delfs)
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 03:52 AM
Posted 21 May 2007 - 07:07 AM
Love your photos!
Posted 29 May 2007 - 08:45 AM
Any expanding stick will be too flimsy to push into the sand and will collapse. An aluminun rod with and eye loop bent into one end is best. I use a lanyard to hold it onto the wrist of the hand using it. I am able to single hand my rig, using the hand with the stick to hold my position. It really helps with current situations.
Posted 29 May 2007 - 09:59 AM
Sometimes you can rest your arm on it to hold camera steady.
Posted 31 May 2007 - 02:09 PM
I found the sticks to be very handy in strong current situations and for holding steady for a shot without stirring up the bottom.
SCUBA Diver, Photographer, Grandma
Posted 31 May 2007 - 02:28 PM
Posted 03 June 2007 - 08:37 PM
how long should a muck stick be? heading to Lembeh in a few months time and want to get one. Although I will still need to figure out how I can hold my camera set and the stick together.......... such a pity I am not an octopus
This works well for us: A stainless steel rod, 3/16 " in dia, over all length of 16". Using a high precision hammer, form a ring at one end large enough to get your thumb through. Add a short wrist lanyard. To use, put your left thumb through the hole, make a fist and the stick projects across your palm and out the bottom. You can push the stick into the bottom and still hold the camera in your left hand and stay off the bottom all at the same time
Now see what you can do with 30 years of diving and 3 degrees
If it is so easy every one would be doing it!
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:22 PM
Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:09 AM
Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:36 PM
If used for positioning, maybe this diver could follow a technical dive course to learn new finning techniques. Finning backwards and helicopter turns are a good alternative to poking the bottom and damaging corals or lifeforms hiding in the sand.
If used for banging on your tank, consider this: divers who are interested in what you show them will look if you merely point. Making noise makes the fish flee and (di)stresses other divers.
If used to reposition fish, then you should really consider not diving since you have 0 respect for the wildlife underwater.
Some sticks can be used to measure fish and objects underwater, which is useful and causes no damage.
Posted 09 February 2013 - 12:51 AM
I ship within the USA.
They sell for 20.00 each with 5.00 shipping and handling. You can put quite a few in one mailing tube and it will still be 5.00.
Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:10 AM