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Air travel with Lithium Batteries in the USA, An examination of new DOT rules
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post Dec 28 2007, 04:52 PM
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2-jan-2008 : added some batteries that are effected (cor)


QUOTE (cor @ Dec 31 2007, 23:59 AM)
The FAA has recently passed a new rule that limits what you can do with lithium batteries while traveling on airplanes in the US. This only applies to Lithium batteries, not to other types of batteries like NICad or NiMH.

Summary

Almost no one will be affected by these rules. The only people that could be affected are those traveling with large, professional grade, batteries. The only thing impacting everyone is that if you plan to take any extra lithium batteries (outside the device) you must take them in your carry-on. For a full breakdown read the details below.



Rules

The new rules are as follows:
  • You can not pack any spare lithium battery in your checked baggage outside the device
  • You can put a device with the battery installed inside it in your checked baggage (but not recommended)
  • You can bring spare lithium batteries with you in carry-on baggage
  • Any chargeable Lithium battery (normally called Lithium-Ion), no matter where it is, must have less than 8 grams of lithium content
  • You can bring two spare chargeable lithium batteries with up to 25 grams of aggregated lithium in addition to the rule above. (for instance, 2 of 12.5 grams)
  • Any non-chargeable Lithium battery (called Lithium metal battery), no matter where it is, must have less than 2 grams of lithium content.


Impact for divers and underwater photographers


Almost all batteries and devices that we as divers and photographers carry will not be impacted by this rule. This means you can still travel with them, but you must carry any spare batteries in carry on.

Lithium Content

The rules apply to a lithium content measured in grams. Most batteries do not carry their lithium contents on the label, but you can easily calculate it. To calculate you need to know the amount of Lithium cells in your battery. Lithium cells are always made as 3.7V. So you can first calculate the number of cells in your device:

Number of Lithium Cells = Voltage of battery / 3.7

Lithium Content in Grams = Ah * 0,3 * (Number of Lithium Cells) (approximation)

Example, Nikon D2x battery:

1900 mAh = 1.9 Ah. 11.1V battery, so this is 11.1/3.7 = 3 cells. (when in doubt, round up). Lithium content in grams is then 1.9 * 0.3 * 3 = 1.7 grams of lithium content. This is well below the 8 gram limit.



Some other example devices

laptop battery (Apple Macbook Pro) - 5500mAh = 4.95g
Sony FM70 battery - 2600mAh = 1.56g
Sony F970 battery - 7000mAh = 4.2g
Phone battery (Sony Ericsson) - 1100mAh= 0.33g

As you can see, this is all way below the limit of 8 grams.

Impacted batteries or devices

Batteries over 8 grams but below 25 grams. Two allowed with total lithium content under 25g per person: (NOTE: Member Ken Kurtis has contacted the DOT, and got to talk to the actual guy that wrote these rules. He says that you can bring a total of 3 batteries PER DEVICE, two spare, and one in the device. So, if you have two large video cameras, according to him you could take a total of 6 of these batteries, but it is unclear as of yet how the lithium gram content should be added. Please inform yourself with TSA before you need to travel with these types of batteries)


Anton Bauer Dionic 160WH
IDX Endura Elite 142WH
Red Brick (Battery for RED One): 140WH


Batteries over 25 grams (not allowed at all)

No known batteries



Regards,

Cor



Here is the link to the DOT website for a detailed explanation:

DOT battery regulations

Edited by Moderator. Thanks Joe for letting us use his post smile.gif


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- spaceflight   Air travel with Lithium Batteries in the USA   Dec 28 2007, 04:52 PM
- - Jules (Helioxfilm)   QUOTE (spaceflight @ Dec 29 2007, 02:52 A...   Dec 28 2007, 10:11 PM
|- - jonny shaw   Is it me or is the world going slightly bonkers...   Dec 28 2007, 10:21 PM
- - Drew   We should examine what the implications are for th...   Dec 29 2007, 01:35 AM
- - cor   Im not quite sure what this means for my Nano Hart...   Dec 29 2007, 02:20 AM
- - cor   Ok, I did a little bit of research, and I think mo...   Dec 29 2007, 02:35 AM
- - Drew   Cor Thanks for that indepth posts. I think if we l...   Dec 29 2007, 04:14 AM
|- - TheRealDrew   QUOTE (Cor @ Dec 29 2007, 06:35 AM) If th...   Dec 29 2007, 05:21 AM
- - shawnh   Insanity...how in the world is your average TSA wo...   Dec 29 2007, 06:30 AM
- - cor   I think this is pretty easy for TSA. Almost nothin...   Dec 29 2007, 06:40 AM
- - Drew   Very true. The only people affected are those who ...   Dec 29 2007, 07:14 AM
- - RogerC   All this math is real nice, but the mouthbreathing...   Dec 29 2007, 09:29 AM
- - cor   I dont think it'll be bad at all. Maybe there ...   Dec 29 2007, 09:44 AM
- - Drew   I think what Cor has done is prove that it's u...   Dec 29 2007, 09:55 AM
|- - Big Blue One   QUOTE (Drew @ Dec 29 2007, 10:55 AM) I th...   Dec 30 2007, 06:19 PM
- - newmediasoup   So my MacBookPro batteries + backup battery would ...   Dec 29 2007, 03:21 PM
- - cor   You have 2 choices: 1) leave battery in the devic...   Dec 29 2007, 03:29 PM
- - manatee19   Can someone in the know explain why TSA is coming ...   Dec 29 2007, 05:30 PM
- - Scubatooth   its because the FAA made the rule and TSA is the o...   Dec 29 2007, 05:50 PM
- - cor   This is the result of a fire in a cargo plane that...   Dec 30 2007, 02:12 AM
- - Drew   Also don't forget that recall on laptop batter...   Dec 30 2007, 03:17 AM
- - pablo   I admit not having read the actual rule, but the s...   Dec 30 2007, 05:39 AM
- - cor   What sites have you checked? They are wrong. Ther...   Dec 30 2007, 05:46 AM
|- - MikeO   QUOTE (cor @ Dec 30 2007, 09:46 AM) What ...   Dec 30 2007, 09:11 AM
- - Drew   I think whomever carries 250 AA batteries strapped...   Dec 30 2007, 07:59 AM
- - cor   Drew, maybe it's an idea to put that other pos...   Dec 30 2007, 08:31 AM
- - cor   Ouch, that is pretty bad. That is going to cause a...   Dec 30 2007, 09:41 AM
- - pablo   Well I certainly hope you are right. But too many...   Dec 30 2007, 10:34 AM
- - Drew   I've edited Joe's post to include Cor...   Dec 30 2007, 10:51 AM
- - cor   I do agree that AP bringing out this seemingly wro...   Dec 30 2007, 11:14 AM
- - Drew   By my calculations, anything at 16.8v, 5.87AH is u...   Dec 30 2007, 11:33 AM
- - craig   Interestingly, there has been, for a long time, a ...   Dec 30 2007, 12:12 PM
- - Drew   Craig, are you referring to the Class 9 rule of sh...   Dec 30 2007, 12:30 PM
- - Drew   Big Blue I believe that is in Thailand and Indones...   Dec 30 2007, 08:21 PM
- - blackbird   I travelled to Bali from Perth last week and was q...   Dec 31 2007, 12:13 AM
- - DrMark   I do not think that there is even the slightest ch...   Jan 1 2008, 07:15 PM
- - Ken Kurtis   "We're from the government. We're her...   Jan 2 2008, 12:12 PM
- - Alex_Mustard   Wow. Straight from the horse's mouth. Alex   Jan 2 2008, 12:20 PM
- - cor   Looks like everything I originally posted is corre...   Jan 2 2008, 12:32 PM
- - Drew   Anton Bauer Dionic 160WH: over 8g IDX Endura Elit...   Jan 2 2008, 01:03 PM
|- - Ken Kurtis   QUOTE (Drew @ Jan 2 2008, 02:03 PM) Anton...   Jan 2 2008, 01:21 PM
- - Drew   Sure but each of these weigh over 1.2kg. Then we h...   Jan 2 2008, 01:26 PM
- - cor   I just noticed a small detail in ken's excelle...   Jan 2 2008, 01:28 PM
|- - Ken Kurtis   QUOTE (cor @ Jan 2 2008, 02:28 PM) Ken, c...   Jan 2 2008, 01:35 PM
- - cor   I would still be very careful. This specific point...   Jan 2 2008, 01:51 PM
- - cor   Great, our dutch national newspapers are also repo...   Jan 3 2008, 02:25 PM
|- - allen   QUOTE (cor @ Jan 3 2008, 04:25 PM) Great,...   Jan 3 2008, 03:00 PM
- - acroporas   It appears that they've already changed the ru...   Jan 3 2008, 04:39 PM
- - Drew   William, that's the original rule... just word...   Jan 3 2008, 05:15 PM
|- - mandarinfish   QUOTE (Drew @ Jan 3 2008, 06:15 PM) Willi...   Jan 3 2008, 05:43 PM
- - Drew   Linda, TSA gets the picture illustrated version   Jan 3 2008, 06:49 PM
- - Alex_Mustard   At least we are going back to two piece of handbag...   Jan 5 2008, 02:12 AM
|- - cor   QUOTE (Alex_Mustard @ Jan 5 2008, 03:12 A...   Jan 5 2008, 02:30 AM
- - plsdiver4377   Spare Lithium Batteries Banned in Checked Luggage ...   Jan 7 2008, 12:53 PM
- - acroporas   The airlines to not check luggage, TSA does. In l...   Jan 7 2008, 01:23 PM
- - plsdiver4377   QUOTE (acroporas @ Jan 7 2008, 02:23 PM) ...   Jan 7 2008, 01:47 PM
- - cor   Im heading out to the US surrounded by a sea of li...   Jan 7 2008, 08:59 PM
- - Ken Kurtis   I got this e-mail late evening 1/7 from our of our...   Jan 7 2008, 10:24 PM
- - Alex_Mustard   I flew last night (Tuscany back to UK) - and in Eu...   Jan 8 2008, 01:24 AM
- - cor   Im in Miami right now and the word battery was not...   Jan 9 2008, 03:46 AM
- - cor   Ok, im about to board the American flight domestic...   Jan 9 2008, 07:26 AM
- - DrMark   QUOTE ps: what is it that brings out the worst in ...   Jan 9 2008, 10:27 AM
- - Alex_Mustard   A friend of mine had two lithium batteries for his...   Feb 12 2008, 02:36 AM
|- - cor   QUOTE (Alex_Mustard @ Feb 12 2008, 03:36 ...   Feb 12 2008, 05:58 PM
|- - hoovermd   QUOTE (cor @ Feb 12 2008, 06:58 PM) Did h...   Feb 13 2008, 01:31 PM
- - pakman   On the way out of Manila last week, I cringed when...   Feb 12 2008, 06:03 AM
- - ce4jesus   In the land of not-so-common sense, requiring they...   Feb 12 2008, 06:38 AM
- - Drew   Well it's also Houston, the one airport I real...   Feb 13 2008, 07:18 PM
- - hammerhead   I've just returned home from San Diego to UK a...   Sep 25 2008, 10:49 PM


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