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#1 Undertow

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 01:59 PM

Hi guys,

The rules for the WPOY say "minor cleaning work" on digital photos is allowed, but would like to know people's opinions about cleaning a pic with some heavier backscatter. I'm talking at least 50 specs and a few larger blobs shot in low vis. Does cloning this out constitute minor cleaning work?? Curious if anyone's ever gotten clarification on this matter.

I'm hoping to get an answer asap as I must post my entries tomorrow (i know of online entry, but am including a couple slides). Cheers,

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#2 Alex_Mustard

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 05:52 PM

Hi Chris,

I have always taken "minor cleaning work" to mean the removal of sensor dust or scratches on transparencies. I am not convinced it allows much to be done about backscatter. In the end I have always avoided entering shots that would require significant cleaning.

I would also add that the judges of this competition are not that worried about backscatter. They are land photographers (in the most part) and seem to quite like underwater images to look underwatery - and a bit of backscatter is part of that.

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 06:47 PM

thanks Alex, i'd say that's very sound advice. i will leave the backscatter, its not horrible anyways.

my edited & printed copy had been cleaned, so the original looked dirty by comparison... won't matter anyways, i don't quite have your talents. thanks and good luck. cheers

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:31 PM

Anecdote,

One judge at a world-famous u/w photo competition insisted that it was impossible to take u/w pictures without backscatter and anything missing the "snowstorm" effect was manipulated...

Imagine, this person was, indeed, a diver... and very stubborn...

No comment!

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 01:49 PM

Anecdote,

One judge at a world-famous u/w photo competition insisted that it was impossible to take u/w pictures without backscatter and anything missing the "snowstorm" effect was manipulated...

Imagine, this person was, indeed, a diver... and very stubborn...

No comment!

Michel


Sounds like i got loads of worthy shots then.................
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 12:17 PM

Sounds like i got loads of worthy shots then.................


:lol: Me too!

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 02:32 AM

:lol: Me too!


Pity they don't do video...I got tapes and tapes of fish hidden by silt..!!!!

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 08:06 PM

Pity they don't do video...I got tapes and tapes of fish hidden by silt..!!!!

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