Edited by Marjo, 09 June 2008 - 10:41 AM.
What is reasonable time to wait for payment?
Posted 09 June 2008 - 10:36 AM
Posted 09 June 2008 - 10:44 AM
I'd be interested to see what other people think too.
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Posted 09 June 2008 - 02:44 PM
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Posted 09 June 2008 - 03:38 PM
i have found through experience to just play dumb and contact the accounting department and ask when you can expect the check. They may say something like, oh, we don't have the invoice can you resend it, ok, but also tell them the editor was sent it twice. A lot of times that gets things moving. Remember the bookeeper writes the checks.
The best policy is to get a P.O. number then attach the contract for use to your invoice.
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Posted 09 June 2008 - 04:46 PM
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Posted 09 June 2008 - 07:39 PM
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 09:52 AM
As a former free-lance writer, and a (retired) lawyer who has worked with free-lancers over issues like this in the past, I'd like to point out, that while there are laws that govern contracts, what governs most contract issues is the contract itself. It is also important to note that there are two basic ways that free-lancers get paid, one is upon acceptance, and the other is upon publication. The contract you have with the magazine should cover this issue. In working for a number of publishers, the signed contract was treated as the bill (whether in acceptance or upon publication agreements). In that regard, requiring an invoice of you seems like a stalling tactic - if they pay on publication - they are the only party that knows the actual distribution date. You shouldn't be expected to be scouring the newsstands to see when you can send in an invoice.
What is unclear in your post is, how long has it been since; you gave the magazine the photos, how long has it been since they were published, were they published online and were you properly credited?
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As an aisde, years ago, a friend of mine, tired of waiting for payment from a publisher who always paid late, went to their offiecs after the issue with her work was on sale, and waited in their lobby and ate a giant (and quite fragrant) tuna salad sandwich until they cut her a check.
Posted 12 June 2008 - 05:02 PM
Well this story ended happily. I just received the check. 7 months after the shoot, 4months after the publication of the images, 9 weeks after the editor finally assured that the check was being cut.
It is nice to see ones images in print in magazines. But from this experience I have learned that I am not going to be quite so quick in the future to sell my images short just because the magazine is "big name". I will stick to my prices and I will be more adamant about payment and permissions. I belive if they really want the images, they will get them. If not, then oh well. I realize I might, and probably will, loose some gigs this way. I am sure that if this was not a hobby, but a main source of income I might feel differently. But for now I am not interested in gigs that require heavy discounting and spending a lot of time on chasing some editors to pay up.
I don't strive to be "one of the worlds most published photographers"... For now, I choose quality relationships over quantity even if it will mean less exposure.
I realize there will be a whole heap of photographer willing to fill my space. So be it...
Posted 16 June 2008 - 09:46 AM
Posted 20 June 2008 - 11:27 AM
I used to turn over big bucks in the advertising business and half of it was costs. I always had to build in the cost of lending the Agencies the money (and I charged a lot more than a bank!).
What I will always say is: "Never be ashamed to ask for what is rightfully yours."
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 04:44 PM
But from this experience I have learned that I am not going to be quite so quick in the future to sell my images short just because the magazine is "big name". I will stick to my prices and I will be more adamant about payment and permissions. I belive if they really want the images, they will get them. If not, then oh well. I realize I might, and probably will, loose some gigs this way.
I figure that if I miss out on acceptance for half the requests that are made for my photos, then I'm doing well.
Even sticking firm for the prices that I feel are appropriate, I've often realized afterwards that I've left a lot of money on the table, particularly if the magazine where the photos are published are full of advertising for huge multinational brands.
When I notice that it's that sort of magazine, or an advertising or other artistic design agency that wants the photos, then I'll often ask them what their standard price is for that type of usage, which is often more than what I would have requested.
Posted 19 July 2008 - 11:53 AM
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