175 replies to this topic

[wagsy]

Hey why do we need new computers to edit the stuff.
You can just convert the HDV to another codec for ease of editing if they find it to hard to edit the raw.
Dump the files to a watch folder and go to bed or convert the stuff to another codec on the fly as you firewire in would be another option as well.

Make sure you get a fast Blu_Ray burner or you will be waiting hours to burn a disk.
Or you can go the XDCAM Disc way with the XDCAM USB Deck$$$.

I suppose you could even render out a normal 25mbps HDV m2t file and send it back to a mini DV tape for a cheap backup last resort kind of thing in case the blu_Ray disk fails after a few years.

[DeanB]

What is he on about....

All i'm hearing is Blah, blah, blah.....

Dive safe

Dean(technophobe)B

[Drew]

Wags
The EX1 shoots XDCAM HD EX files up to 35mbps VBR, not only HDV and that can only be transfered via USB on the camera or via a card reader. The SxS Express Cards require an Express/34 slot. Now why would you mess with the camera as a playback unit when you can go buy a new computer and continue shooting as you d/l your clips?

[wagsy]

HuH...I know it shoots up 35mbps but is still MPEG2 which is very hard to edit hence convert it to another easier 4.2.2 codec just like some do with normal HDV now without any quality loss.

So I am saying shoot it in HQ 35mbps mode, then USB the clips or use the express slot if you have one onto your computer to empty the cards so you can keep on shooting.

Now instead of buying a new computer if you convert the clips that are now on your drive to the another easier to edit codec then you are fine. If you have a encoder that lets you create a watch folder, the encoder will start converting the files as soon as they are dumped to the folder on you hard drive. Once you have done that burn all the raw XDCAM EX files to a Blu_Ray for archiving and edit with the new easy codec.

But if you have lots of money build yourself a super dooper computer that can edit multiply streams of raw 35mbps HQ footage but you don't really have to to get into these cameras.

If you do decide to shoot in normal HDV 25mbps mode you can then use the firewire port and firewire it in like any other HDV camera.

[DeanB]

Wibble....

Dive safe

Dean(eh???)B

[BillyC]

Here is a pic of the new Gates Housing for the Sony EX1

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[jonny shaw]

I think you forgot to attach a hyperlink.

Here's a picture from Marine Visions

http://www.marinevis...m/gates_ex1.php

Jon

[wagsy]

Cool...so who will be the first to buy one.

[BillyC]

Tell you what....I am seriously scrambling ofr $$$$$$$$$ to do this housing, with external monitor, & SeaRay 2000 LED lights. Probably take me all summer to come up the $$$$$$$$ but that is where my head is at. Crystal clear focus to find the cash for this rig!!

[Nick Hope]

I'd love to get my fingers on that big focus knob.

I wonder if I'd need to add buoyancy once I've strapped a pair of L&M lights to it.

How does that stand on the bottom attach? I assume it's supposed to come off for the dive.

[jonny shaw]

It does look pretty impressive!

I wonder what the out of water weight will be when you chuck on a monitor, super wide port, lights etc?

The stand slides off and then Gates make different attachments for lights / tripod etc. The system works well and is quick to change between different options.


Jon

[DeanB]

I'd love to get my fingers on that big focus knob.

Titter ye not !!!!!

Ey it looks a beastie... My Ex1 is getting lonely... But I said its getting a friend real soon...

Dive safe

DeanB

[jonny shaw]

You never miss a bit of benny hill humour do you mate!

[Roger Eve]

.....or was it Frankie Howerd I think so

Roger

[SimonSpear]

You should have heard him while in the pot - it was Kenneth Williams ALL the way. Oh ah Matron...

Cheers, Simon

[Nick Hope]

He didn't get bent shooting pike in Stoney Cove did he?

[JohnE]

Hello all,

With every generation of a Gates product we endeavor to make meaningful, practical improvements that do not compromise the durability/reliability of the housing. In this regard, we made some changes for the EX1 that may be of interest:

1) We have a new approach for buoyancy (well, new for Gates). We borrowed some ideas from IMAX and employ 4 and 8 oz trim weights that can be added/removed as needed for just the right buoyancy. Remove them as you add lights/monitor/tripod/etc. You can even move them forward/aft for trim, and top/bottom if you desire for changing the center of gravity. It's intended to be very flexible and configurable. This approach will be carried forward with new housings including DEEP RED.

2) The camera tray is vastly improved as well. No more tools required to mount the camera, and the tray locks into place with two rotating latches. Slick and easy.

3) The controls are the best we've made yet -- at your fingertips and easy to use. Are electronic controls still easier to use? You decide....

Cheers,

John

[Nick Hope]

It looks and sounds great John. Especially the buoyancy solution if it means no more PVC tubes

Re the controls really the only one I prefer as electronic is momentary auto focus, as I mentioned before. Could I do that on the new housing without a fidget and a wobble?

Also what's the flip diopter status?

[JohnE]

Nick,

Momentary Auto Focus was too tight with other controls to get into the repertoire. But the same thing can be accomplished using the A/M focus switch. In fact, the auto focus has a neat 'focus assist' feature. While in AF you can still adjust the manual focus ring to lock onto different part of the image, and the camera will then track that subject. I've tried it on land it seems to work well. I can see using this underwater, particularly for macro.

J-

[SimonSpear]

He didn't get bent shooting pike in Stoney Cove did he?

haha no it was on an HSE course - we were all narked out of our skulls hehe.


Getting bent at 3m in Stoney filming Pike would be bloody hilarous though! - well as hilarious as a bend could be - which really isn't funny - but hey you get my drift!

As to the Gates EX1 housing then it looks a beast. It would be no1 choice for me though if I was in the market for one after being so pleased with my V1 housing.

Cheers, Simon

Edited by SimonSpear, 18 April 2008 - 08:47 AM.