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#1 scorpio_fish

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 05:44 AM

Several people have posted questions about Aquatica ports and extensions for various lenses. I've got the spreadsheet. Here's an attempt to copy and paste it here. Most of the inquiries are from people buying from B&H. I'm trying to figure out why I would help people buying from a competitor, sigh. I guess I just want everyone to happy :lol:

Dome and flat ports should ship with neoprene covers. Dome neoprene covers will not work on domes with shades attached. There used to be special order neoprene covers for such use. But the vendor that was supplying them no longer exists. I use no shade and get no flare.

PORT PORT DOME SHADE
LENS DOME FLAT EXTENSION EXTENS 8"/6"
Sigma 14mm AF F3.518405 18456 18480
Sigma 15mm Non-AF18405 18480
14mm f/2.8D ED AF 18405 18480
15mmm F3.5 Non-AF18405/18406 18455 18480/18481
16mm F2.8 Non-AF 18405/18406 18480/18481
16mm F2.8 D AF 18405/18406 18480/18481
18mm F3.5 Non-AF 18405/18406 18456 18480/18481
18mm F2.8 AF 18405/18406 18456 18480/18481
20mm F2.8 AF 18405/18406 18482/18483
20mm F2.8s Non-AF 18405/18406 18482/18483
20mm F3.5 Non-AF 18405/18406 18482/18483
24mm F2.8 D AF 18405/18406 18482/18483
28mm F2.8 D AF 18405/18406 18482/18483
55mm F2.8s 18426 (A)
60mm F2.8 AF 18426 (A)
105mm F2.8s Non-AF 18426 (A) 18453
105mm F2.8 AF 18426 (A) 18453
200mm F4 D AF 18426 (A) 18454
12-24mm f/4G IF- ED AF-S DX 18405 TBD 18480
17-35mm f/2,8D IF-ED AF-S 18405 18457 18480
18-35mm f/3.5-4.5 D IF ED AF 18405
20-35mm FR2.8 D AF 18405/18406 18453 18482/18483
28-70mm F3.5-4.5 D AF 18405/18406 18426 (A) 18455* 18482/18483
28-85mm F3.5-4.5 AF 18405 18426 (A) 18455 18482
35-70mm F3.3-4.5 D AF 18405 18426 (A) TBA 18482
35-80mm F4-5.6 D AF 18405/18406 18426 (A) 18482/18483
24-50mm F3.3-4.5 D AF 18405/18406 18455 18482/18483
70-180 mm f/4.5-5. 6D ED AF Zoom-Micro 18426 18454


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Posted 27 June 2003 - 05:47 AM

Great, it didn't even end up looking like what I put in the post box.

Anyway, I can still e-mail folks the port chart.

There are 6" and 8" domes. Don't bother with the 6" dome.
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:00 AM

George,

I think you can attach .xls files. I'll try one to see if it works.

Nope.

I would suggest taking a screenshot of the Excel file and making it into a GIF then posting.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:02 AM

Create a resource on wetpixel with these tables in it?
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:06 AM

I'm "down with that." It woul only take a few minutes to put into a table.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:52 AM

Hey Scorpio Fish

What is your web address as I would rather purchase from you than BandH.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 07:37 AM

I don't know how to do a screen capture. I still know more about MS-DOS than Windows.

I'm goint to try and attach the spreadsheet right now.

Wesley, you can e-mail at scorpio_fish@scubadiving.com. It's sold through a shop and can't be ordered on line. I'll make you deal you can't refuse, because I've got one in inventory I need to sell.

The new chart will be on Aquatica's updated website sometime in the future.
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Posted 18 July 2003 - 03:19 AM

Scorpio - Have you tested the 12-24mm in Aquatica housing yet. I haven't taken my underwater yet and I'm wondering which would be the appropriate extension. What about the zoom function?

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Posted 18 July 2003 - 04:43 AM

The proper extension is the one for the 15mm lens.

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Posted 18 July 2003 - 05:25 AM

Hey Guyz,

really great thread! Actually Lars and I are going to drill-up digideep's
database and have a lense and port matching online in the not to
distant future. We are still in the phase of collecting interesting
attributes of lenses and ports. With the lenses it's not a big deal,
but what do you think is interesting about a port?

diameter: mm/inch
weight: g/lbs
width: mm/inch
height: mm/inch
depth: mm/inch
viewfield: 180 degree or smaller
zoom gear: yes/no

depth rating? If you mix port brands via adapters you have to take
the lowest depth rating,.. right?

I'd like to gather some more sugesstions before we continue to
gather the details from manufacturers.

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Posted 18 July 2003 - 02:27 PM

How critical is it to use the right extension. With the 12-2, I don't have zoom control, so I'll just set it to 12 and go. SHouldn't this work with the 105mm extension?
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Posted 18 July 2003 - 02:49 PM

To get sharp corners at 12mm you will need the correct extension. You can use it w/ the 105 extension but will get sub-optimal results.

I tried both rings and compared the results results.

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Posted 18 July 2003 - 05:11 PM

Is the 15mm extension longer or shorter than the 105 and by how much? Shouldn't there be more tolerance at the 12mm end?
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Posted 19 July 2003 - 06:48 AM

Most of the inquiries are from people buying from B&H. I'm trying to figure out why I would help people buying from a competitor, sigh. I guess I just want everyone to happy :unsure:

It would be interesting to know how many aquatica shooters bought from B&H instead of from a smaller shop. The problem is that you really aren't assured better knowledge or service by buying from a small store. I bought my system from Mauricio, and he has been a big help whenever I need information. I'm sure that you would be equally helpful, but there are lots of dealers out there that sell systems that they've never used.

My biggest gripe about aquatica has been the service at the level of the manufacturer. I've been wating for months for an answer on fitting the N80 in the D100 housing. Blake said "possibly" but never got back to me. My D100 housing came with regular bulkheads so I have to tape off the TTL contacts for them to work. I've asked by phone and email over and over again whether it should have come with non-TTL bulkheads - no reply. Aquatica needs dealers like you and Mauricio to make the customer connection, but they also need to provide service at the level of the manufacturer comparable to Subal and others!

Anyway, I'd appreciate any guidance you could give me on housing my 12-24, and if you contact me by PM I'll order whatever I need to house this and my 24-85. Thanks
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Posted 21 July 2003 - 12:10 PM

Hi guys:
I am responding specifically to kasey’s comments and concerns about “service in the industry" Specifically Aquatica.
It is important to understand that if you buy from, lets say BH photo it all ends there. Period. There is no service, advice or follow-ups. Mauricio Handler as well as other small vendors pride themselves in being able to offer much more that just retail. Not all can.
Not all vendors are knowledgeable about the product that they sell, especially if they are not professional underwater photographers themselves and especially if they represent multiple brands. If you buy from a smaller operation make sure that you are indeed going to get some service or advice. I only sell what I know and use. I am a creative professional first and retailer second.
Regarding issues with the manufacturer; It is not really fair to expect them to respond to any and all requests for new product development, marketing and distribution of products that we, as individuals have personal interest in seeing out.
Aquatica is a small company with finite resources. These must be considered carefully. Some ideas may seem exciting to us, yet unless we speak volumes in sales these ideas will not see the light of day.
They (Aquatica) have/are considering the development of certain products that will add value to existing housings- a good example is making the N80 fit the D100 housing. For now and until further notice, this is just that. An idea. Research and development costs money. The N80 was never targeted for a housing in the first place because it is relatively a cheap camera, so to dedicate resources today to modify an Aquatica D100 housing for this specific camera has been considered but it has not been given the green light.

If we have immediate desires for modifications, it is best we take these into our own hands. It was not too long ago that if we wanted something done we went to a machine shop and had them design and build for us whatever we wanted on a custom basis.
Make a wooden template/saddle and mount an N80 in the D100. See if the gears align (they most likely will) then have aluminum one built. Unless there are a few hundred requests for this modification, the odds are that it will not be produced.





I would love to go straight to Nikon Inc. and give them my two cents worth on what I want to see out and what I don't like....
Guess what they would tell me......
Nor Subal, not Sea and Sea not Aquatica are in a position to be any different. In fact, Aquatica is probably the only one right now seriously pursuing new product development. I will challenge anyone on this subject.
Light and motion does not even have the D100 housing up and running yet, Subal? Please tell me what they are doing on the creative front. Sea and Sea makes great strobes!.

I ask that we leave the manufacturer to follow their master plans. Send ideas, comments and thoughts directly or better yet through there representatives....like me. They do listen, they just cannot respond at the speed that we all want. The digital world is much too fast for any manufacturer to stay on top of it continuously.
Gears for the 12-24 are forthcoming....be patient. Regarding the new 10.5 ....lets let it come out first please...!

There is much to discuss...this group is great for that. It is important to remember though that the manufacturing process is not as fast. These companies are all on the cutting edge and also on the financial edge. The profit margins are smaller than ever as the industry changes. Ask Nikon about this- Their underwater rign has come to an end… …..! It is a very tough industry to be in.

If you have any comments or would just like to talk....please contact me directly at mauricio@handlerphoto.com

If you want to contribute to the cause I would also be glad to take your orders....

All the best

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Posted 21 July 2003 - 02:10 PM

Insignificant little Ikelite created a new product once, Mauricio............

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Posted 21 July 2003 - 02:30 PM

With some help from "early adopters" here at Wetpixel.com - both Aquatica and Ikelite have been very progressive and agressive in designing products for underwater digital shooters. Certainly they deserve a commendation for trying to keep up in a market where the product cycle is measured in hours...:-)

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Posted 22 July 2003 - 06:57 AM

Hi again.
I would publically like to apoligize to Ikelite (Ike) for having excluded him and his amazing company from my last commentary....In my haste to get the comments out (while I was in the middle of a commercial shoot) I forgot to mention Ikelite all together. They have always been out there really pushing the envelope on new product development not only on housings.
It was nothing personal. I housed my Nikon F3 in an Ikelite housing for the first five years in the business and continue to use Ikelite sttrobes, connectors and meters exclusivly.

I have only good words for what Ikelite represents.

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Posted 22 July 2003 - 07:30 AM

I actually touched the L&M Titan D100 housing this past weekend. Rich posted here looking for a spare Aquatica dome port. I happened to have one. Coincidentally, he's an instructor at another shop here locally. (After I left our meeting, I remembered him from a reg tech course we both attended quite some time ago).

I met him at the quarry to loan him the port. He brought the housing with him to test it sans camera and perhaps with camera. It's slicker than dog s***. The electronic controls are unbelievable. If they all work correctly, it will be heaven.

The unit seemed incredibly heavy, maybe because I was dog tired on a Sunday afternoon after too many dives and the 100 degree heat. The center of gravity on land was seemed quite forward leaning. The electronics run off the camera battery, which makes me wonder about battery life. You've got several things (like the ROC board) attached to the camera. I don't envision one pulling the camera out and go strolling for some top side photos.

If I weren't so dehydrated, I probably would have been drooling, but I'm still leary of fully electronic controls. He's heading out to the Flower Gardens this weekend. Rich, if you are out there, we want a report.
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Posted 22 July 2003 - 07:58 AM

So did the Aquatica port fit on the Titan D100?

I'm headed out the the Flowergardens on Sunday nigiht. Maybe I can go down early and meet up w/ Rich. I'd love to see what he thinks about his setup.

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