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#1 pmooney

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 04:52 AM

Like many folks here I am contemplating the move to the FX format and am now looking at my lenses with a view to the future....
The Tokina 10-17 I have been using of late is not compatible so it comes down to a choice between the Sigma 15 & the Nikon 16.

Wondering what are the views / experiences of the community ?

Edited by pmooney, 19 January 2009 - 04:56 AM.


#2 Mariozi

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:16 AM

I've been contemplating the return to the full-frame myself, and even though I own a Nikkor 16mm I am considering the use of the 10.5mm DXed due to it's focus properties... When I shoot film I sometimes get as close as the closest focus distance in the 16mm and the 10.5mm can go a lot closer.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:20 AM

Peter,

Search for Alex Mustard's posts. I believe there are also some links to test articles on UWP that describe his thought process. While he steps carefully to not offend Nikonians in summary the Sigma 15mm focusses closer plus being a "newer" design is the best choice. I concur and did some testing WAAAYYYback wiht my first Nikon D100 and using both Nikon 16mm and Sigma 15mm fisheyes on a trip.

Although I still have access to a mate's Tokina 10-17mm I got a Sigma 15mm EX DG lens used and shot it on a couple of recent trips. I forgot how great this lens is even behind the lowly 6" Ikelite port where it is sharp right up to the edges on my APS-C sensor Canon dSLR. Plus f2.8 is a bit easier to focus in dim light.

So now if I ever migrate to a FX sensor I'll be ready :)

YMMV

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Edited by dhaas, 19 January 2009 - 07:23 AM.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:27 AM

Dave ,
I recall Alex's musings about the Sigma - it is what got me thinking about this.
I already have a couple of the Nikon 16's and am sorely tempted to get the Sigma for it's close focus advantage.
Just have to find a buyer for one of my old bikes to fund the D3X ..... and the new lenses and..........

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 08:16 AM

I'm in a similar position; contemplating whether to get the Sigma. Like you, I have the 16mm Nikon. Seems like it's just not a priority at the moment, the 16mm is still a great lens, and one can get it to focus closer by removing the back filter.
I'm sticking with the 16mm for now, I've spent enough for a while. Some have also mentioned that the Sigma has a little warmer color cast than the Nikon.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 08:26 AM

Jeff,

I do recall James W. and also Alex mentioning a slightly warmer rendition from most Sigma lenses versus Nikon AND Canon brand name lenses.

Jeff and Peter, your Nikon 16mm lenses are still a great piece of glass, so hopefully my comments weren't misconstrued as dissing a fine lens :)

For Nikon D300 and D700 (and of curse D3X) users I don't know if the Sigma color rendition would make any difference. Especially with modern post processing tools and capability of the individual user.

YMMV,

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 08:50 AM

NO offense taken - as I said just really having a good look at how to get the best out of FX and the various lenses. before it drives me to :) :) :drink: :drink: :drink:

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:38 AM

Jeff and Peter, your Nikon 16mm lenses are still a great piece of glass, so hopefully my comments weren't misconstrued as dissing a fine lens :)


How dare you diss my lens! My lens gets no respect. :)
I think if we weren't so spoiled by the Tokina we would not be worrying about it.

Edited by loftus, 19 January 2009 - 09:44 AM.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:53 AM

Both work really well. And both have much better IQ than the Tokina. I would say that the Sigma 15mm is marginally sharper and the Nikon is better at resisting flare. The Sigma focuses considerably closer. I think if you have one, then there is no point in switching. Both are excellent performers.

Check out the wide angle sections of the my D700 and D3 Wetpixel reviews for further musings.

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