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#1 funkyspelunker

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 11:34 PM

I've been shooting a D300/Subal rig for about 9 months now. It's great, but it has me wanting more (full frame). I was thinking that the D700 doesn't seem like enough of a jump to justify the cost of a new housing (Subal ain't cheap!) and out comes the Canon 5DM2. Now, I love what it has to offer but am not sure if I'm willing to switch brands, because my gf shoots Nikon as well, and frankly, I like Nikon (never had a Canon DSLR though). If only I knew what Nikon has in store to compete with the new Canon and when this will be available. Should I make the switch and risk switching back again, or just keep shooting the D300 and wait for Nikon to release an upgrade to the D700? Anyone know what the Nikon product cycles are like, and how long this wait might be? I figure that at least I can start collecting FF Nikon lenses in the meanwhile, shooting them on land with the D300.

Aaaargh, the pace of innovation is both so sweet and also so frustrating when you just get settled in with a rig!

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:11 AM

Personally, I think that the D300 is a better all rounder as an underwater camera than the D700 (depending on the type of photography you do) so I can understand you not wanting to upgrade/downgrade. The D700 does have better IQ than the D300 (a la DXO labs), but in underwater you have to search long and hard to spot the difference. The D300 has better AF frame coverage and takes cool DX lenses like the sigma 17-70mm and the Tokina 10-17mm, plus as the recent rectilinear corner sharpness tests showed its works easily with wide rectilinears.

That said it is pretty easy to make a D300 fit a D700 housing - alas it is not always so simple the other way around.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:20 AM

I have both the D300 and D700 and use the D300 UW .. Even though I love my D700 I would not change for 2 reasons ..

1 .. too much cash involved .. I have an Aquatica set up

2 .. I have both the 10-17 and 17-70 as Alex mentions .. and this covers me for all my needs UW .. I could not think about not having the 10-17 on my wreck dives

I also think you would not see the difference between the 2 UW

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:41 AM

Thanks for the info!

I actually don't have the Sigma 17-70, so I might give that a try (I've been shooting the 10-17 and 105 macro so far). Either of you have a chance to put your hands on the 5DM2 yet? Like I said, looks like an amazing camera but I have so much invested and love my Nikon.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 09:02 AM

I have a 5DmkII and it's an amazing camera. But I wouldn't advise you to switch. What is it that your D300 is not doing for you that you absolutely have to have? Will you be shooting at ISO1600, or do you need to shoot HD video?

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:31 PM

PMA announcements are just around the corner, so maybe the D400 (if it is announced) might solve your dilemma.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:38 PM

The D300 has better AF frame coverage and takes cool DX lenses like the sigma 17-70mm and the Tokina 10-17mm, plus as the recent rectilinear corner sharpness tests showed its works easily with wide rectilinears.
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I'll post some pics in a few days when I have a faster download; but the Tokina 10-17 with 1.4 TC worked splendidly this last week on the D700. :)
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 10:02 PM

Please post em!

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 10:46 AM

I'll post some pics in a few days when I have a faster download; but the Tokina 10-17 with 1.4 TC worked splendidly this last week on the D700. :)


What would you appreciate the FoV to with that set-up?

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 10:56 AM

Are those of you who are using the Sigma using the same dome port config as when using the Tokina?

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 05:16 AM

I'll post some pics in a few days when I have a faster download; but the Tokina 10-17 with 1.4 TC worked splendidly this last week on the D700. :)



Yeah! Please post shots for us too see!

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:01 PM

I'm confused, is there more than one version of the Sigma 17-70 lens (HSM vs. Macro)? My confusion stems from this statement:

Personally, I have and would recomend the 17-70 Macro for underwater, not the HSM. It is alittle weak at both ends but still a good underwater choice.


From this thread:
http://wetpixel.com/...showtopic=28639

Also, does anyone here think that any of the new Simga lenses announced today will be better for underwater shooting than the 17-70mm?

http://nikonrumors.c...new-lenses.aspx

My 17-70mm HSM *just* arrived today, and with my luck, one of these new lenses will be way better for underwater, or I got the wrong version of the lens!

Thank you all for the help.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:14 PM

Im out in Vegas at PMA, so I will be checking out the booths and seeing what is new...I too am hoping for a big Nikon announcement. Ill report back with pics and details in the next day or so.
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 09:37 AM

I've really got my fingers crossed for a new DSLR from Nikon this year, but chances are slim.

Anyone know the answer to my question about the Sigma (are there two versions)?

I'm confused, is there more than one version of the Sigma 17-70 lens (HSM vs. Macro)? My confusion stems from this statement:



From this thread:
http://wetpixel.com/...showtopic=28639

Also, does anyone here think that any of the new Simga lenses announced today will be better for underwater shooting than the 17-70mm?

http://nikonrumors.c...new-lenses.aspx

My 17-70mm HSM *just* arrived today, and with my luck, one of these new lenses will be way better for underwater, or I got the wrong version of the lens!

Thank you all for the help.



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Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:39 PM

Here is the list of current Sigma lenses. Yes, there are two 17-70 lenses. Both are macro, one is HSM and the other is not. The HSM version is bulkier and does not fit all port systems. There is also a version with more limited zoom range (18-50) but with faster f/2.8 constant aperture. It also comes in two variants.
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 02:03 PM

The HSM version is bulkier and does not fit all port systems.


Oh snap. :P