Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

I Am SO Angry with Mary Lynn Price, Stephen Frink, Bruce Yates, Mexwell and Others


  • Please log in to reply
23 replies to this topic

#1 TheRealDrew

TheRealDrew

    Humpback Whale

  • Moderator
  • 2855 posts

Posted 11 July 2009 - 12:56 PM

To say I am irate with some posters here would be an understatement.

Mary Lynn and this thread

Canon 5D Mark II HD Short Video, New DiveFilm HD Podcast

Mexwell

Canon 5D Mark II vs. Sony HC7, Comparison video online!

Stephen Frink

Test Video From Canon 5D Mark II

And of course Bruce Yates, particularly since I have Aquatica ports and gears and two of their housings.

Seacam guy buys Aquatica 5DMkII housing,

See the pattern? DID JUST ONE OF YOU TAKE MY CREDIT CARD FROM ME BEFORE ALLOWING ME TO READ THOSE THREADS? No, just constant compliments and examples of how cool the 5D Mark II is.

Guess what I did :D

BTW, I have a 30D Housing, 40D Housing and a brand NIB 50D that I am going to be selling :)

#2 Mary Lynn

Mary Lynn

    Video Expert

  • Moderator
  • 299 posts

Posted 11 July 2009 - 01:52 PM

Can't stop laughing!!

I so know the feeling...

Truly, can't wait to see your new videos!!

ML

#3 MikeVeitch

MikeVeitch

    1.7kbps Manta Boy

  • Senior Moderator
  • 6182 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:In Bali, Indonesia but from Vancouver, BC
  • Interests:Teaching Underwater Photography

Posted 11 July 2009 - 03:50 PM

Drew Drew Drew....

BE LIKE MIKE!

don't do it.

Join us for an Underwater Photography Workshop in Ambon March 2015
Blog and Photo Archive/Portfolio Site www.mikeveitchblog.com
Learn underwater photography in Indonesia or Join me on a trip www.underwatertribe.com


#4 Mary Lynn

Mary Lynn

    Video Expert

  • Moderator
  • 299 posts

Posted 11 July 2009 - 04:51 PM

Actually, Drew, I am just so envious!

You are not helping my self-control one bit...

ML

#5 allen

allen

    Sting Ray

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 279 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Salt Lake City, USA
  • Interests:I spend most of my time alpine climbing, hiking, mtn. biking, or skiing. When I can get away it is to travel for climbing or diving. Been doing this nonsense for way too long to do anything different.

Posted 11 July 2009 - 07:07 PM

Funny, I called one of the board sponsors who shall remain nameless. Very helpful as always. But they just had to gush about the video capability. Geezz after four years I just barely got my set up to something I like. Then they mention this feature. A fine way to put my credit card into to deco.

Edited by allen, 11 July 2009 - 07:07 PM.


#6 DeanB

DeanB

    Humpback Whale

  • Industry
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3073 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:U.K

Posted 11 July 2009 - 10:36 PM

Drew your soon be selling 'AGAIN' to buy Scarlet... But then no one will be buying because they will want SCARLET as well...

Once again people... equipment will be upgraded every 6 months there will be a 5D MkIII soon with better video quality... For the money your paying look at Scarlet... Unless your loaded then buy everything...

Dive safe

DeanB
Facebook me ;)
NOW ON SKYPE !!! ... deanb69
www.waterwolf-productions.co.uk

#7 John Bantin

John Bantin

    Sperm Whale

  • Industry
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1857 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Teddington/Twickenham UK
  • Interests:former Technical Editor of
    Diver Magazine (UK) and www.divernet.com
    occasional contributor
    SportDiver (Aus)
    Undercurrent
    Author of Amazing Diving Stories (Wiley Nautical)

Posted 12 July 2009 - 02:54 AM

I understand Van Gogh cut off his ear because Gaugin had better brushes...

I buy my own photographic kit. Diving equipment manufacturers and diving services suppliers get even-handed treatment from me whether they choose to advertise in the publications I write for or not. All the equipment I get on loan is returned as soon as it is finished with. Did you know you can now get Diver Mag as an iPad/Android app?

 

#8 MikeVeitch

MikeVeitch

    1.7kbps Manta Boy

  • Senior Moderator
  • 6182 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:In Bali, Indonesia but from Vancouver, BC
  • Interests:Teaching Underwater Photography

Posted 12 July 2009 - 04:48 AM

I understand Van Gogh cut off his ear because Gaugin had better brushes...



Interesting one John, I heard something similar about Dean B and Ron Jeremy...

:D

Join us for an Underwater Photography Workshop in Ambon March 2015
Blog and Photo Archive/Portfolio Site www.mikeveitchblog.com
Learn underwater photography in Indonesia or Join me on a trip www.underwatertribe.com


#9 pmooney

pmooney

    Orca

  • Industry
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1229 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cairns Australia
  • Interests:Growing Grapes

Posted 12 July 2009 - 06:02 AM

Drew your soon be selling 'AGAIN' to buy Scarlet... But then no one will be buying because they will want SCARLET as well...

Once again people... equipment will be upgraded every 6 months there will be a 5D MkIII soon with better video quality... For the money your paying look at Scarlet... Unless your loaded then buy everything...

Dive safe

DeanB


The big difference between Scarlet and the 5DMk11 is that the the Canon is real and is available now.

#10 TheRealDrew

TheRealDrew

    Humpback Whale

  • Moderator
  • 2855 posts

Posted 12 July 2009 - 06:07 AM

Can't stop laughing!!

I so know the feeling...

Truly, can't wait to see your new videos!!

ML



:crazy:

No dive trips on the near horizon, though there are some pool sessions coming up I was going to try to shoot, and maybe will try to go to Dutch Springs.

Drew Drew Drew....

BE LIKE MIKE!

don't do it.



Did you pay royalties to Nike for that? :)

Actually, Drew, I am just so envious!

You are not helping my self-control one bit...

ML



Turnabout is fair play


Funny, I called one of the board sponsors who shall remain nameless. Very helpful as always. But they just had to gush about the video capability. Geezz after four years I just barely got my set up to something I like. Then they mention this feature. A fine way to put my credit card into to deco.


Yeah I hear you...

Drew your soon be selling 'AGAIN' to buy Scarlet... But then no one will be buying because they will want SCARLET as well...

Once again people... equipment will be upgraded every 6 months there will be a 5D MkIII soon with better video quality... For the money your paying look at Scarlet... Unless your loaded then buy everything...

Dive safe

DeanB


My Cheerios (or my parade) meet Dean's Urine :)

Anyway, on Scarlet. Early in 2008 had made plans to go somewhere late 2008/Early 2009 and kept my eye out waiting for Scarlet. And it eventually will come out. And then Gates hopefully will make a housing for it. As you say equipment always changes and gets upgraded. In the land of electronics can always do the "what if" or "wait and sea." (And there is a good chance the Scarlet may come out this fall.) And within in the next few months there are other cameras from Canon, Nikon, Sony etc. that will probably be released that will be better, though I would not think the 5d Mark II will change that quickly.

As to cost, nope not loaded. But I do have gear that I will be trading in/eBaying. Sort of consolidating things. Ultimately not too painful, and I still have my video rig and a small back-up photo rig for the time being.

Will Scarlet do still photos as well as a dedicated still camera? Very well could be. But when I travel, usually carry one video rig and one still rig (and sometimes a small back-up still rig) that I switch off with my wife. We both like shooting both. The Canon 5D Mark II gives me an option, and for short/local trips, or places I have been alot, could even leave some gear at home, just go with the Canon knowing if I felt like shooting some video, I could.

And there is a good chance I will get the Scarlet when it comes out ... maybe. Depends on how the pricing and actual specs shake out (size/weight) finally settles out. At one point it was listed at RED at under $2,000 then now $3,000.

But I will have some EF lenses that hopefully will work :D

I understand Van Gogh cut off his ear because Gaugin had better brushes...


I thought it was because he was in love and a bit off beat, as it were :(

Not a case of me doing this though because of the better brushes syndrome, as summarized above to Dean. There were many factors that went into it. (Or so I think). I know I will never get the 1D etc., way out of my price range and really cannot justify the cost/benefits. But in addition to the video, the weatherproofing (there was a discussion here on WP about just how sealed it really was and it shook out to be higher than conditions I would dare to try by a wide margin) and the quality for use also above the water were things I liked. The performance at higher ISO with less noise also. I took some shots in the camera store, which has that subdued camera store type lighting, and liked what I saw.

Often I will throw my G9 in my pocket when I do not feel like carrying things so I can get some video or photos with the expectations of getting a certain quality of both. When I am looking for more, I will throw both my video and still rigs into a bag to carry about. Now I can take the Canon, and get very good video, more so above water - in other words, there were enough times that I can recall where having the 5D Mark II would have been a real nice option to have.

Do I have any expectations that my above or underwater photography is going to be better? Nope, not at all. As I always say, put a $200 Point and Shoot in Eric's, Alex's or many other peoples hands around here, such as a G9 or G10 in Ed's hands, and put (in this case) the Canon 5D Mark II in my hands, and I guarantee that they blow away anything I can do. But that does not bother me (too much ;) ).

Bottom line is I held off on dSLR forever, and when I finally broke down and got a dSLR, my enjoyment of taking photos went up again back to the days when I shot slides and film. The features and changes that this camera brings to the table for me will add to that (so I hope.) If it really was just thinking like Van Gogh, yeah it would have been a bad call to get this camera. (Or any camera) I know Ked's don't make me run faster or that eating my Wheaties will get me to bench press my car ;)

Interesting one John, I heard something similar about Dean B and Ron Jeremy...

:D



I will save Dean some time - Ron Jeremy was always jealous of Dean :)

#11 vetdiver

vetdiver

    Sting Ray

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 215 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:San Diego, CA
  • Interests:Running, hiking, attending beer festivals, and coveting shoes and new dive gear.

Posted 12 July 2009 - 06:23 AM

So....what kind of 40D housing?? PM me. I'm kinda in the market. Well, not really, but if I see something good...

Allison

PS, congrats on your new "baby"
Canon 7D_Subal housing_ YS250 strobes


www.avitsky.com

#12 Mary Lynn

Mary Lynn

    Video Expert

  • Moderator
  • 299 posts

Posted 12 July 2009 - 08:06 AM

Why I find moving to a DSLR with great HD video capability so compelling:

I often travel with and dabble in topside stills, and love playing with multimedia production:

http://mlptravelvide...m/Movie_11.html

Travel with smaller video cams to keep travel weight down, particularly given uw housing weight & size.

What is slowing me down in taking the leap to the Canon 5D Mark II:

My DSLR lenses are all Nikon.

It's a big $$ outlay,

And definitely would have to spend a lot time in a pool just working on that uw DSLR learning curve!

But I see the future, it's only a matter of time, and it's incredibly exciting!!

Mary Lynn

#13 DeanB

DeanB

    Humpback Whale

  • Industry
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3073 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:U.K

Posted 12 July 2009 - 08:06 AM

The big difference between Scarlet and the 5DMk11 is that the the Canon is real and is available now.


Yep so it will be 'old hat' in a few months...

Dive safe

Dean(bigga badda and hairier than Ron)
Facebook me ;)
NOW ON SKYPE !!! ... deanb69
www.waterwolf-productions.co.uk

#14 TheRealDrew

TheRealDrew

    Humpback Whale

  • Moderator
  • 2855 posts

Posted 12 July 2009 - 08:15 AM

Yep so it will be 'old hat' in a few months...

Dive safe

Dean(bigga badda and hairier than Ron)



So what is the new over/under date on the Scarlet? I know the recent mentions are this Fall. :D (Though in fact I do think they will be coming out this Fall..finally)

#15 John Bantin

John Bantin

    Sperm Whale

  • Industry
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1857 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Teddington/Twickenham UK
  • Interests:former Technical Editor of
    Diver Magazine (UK) and www.divernet.com
    occasional contributor
    SportDiver (Aus)
    Undercurrent
    Author of Amazing Diving Stories (Wiley Nautical)

Posted 12 July 2009 - 09:02 AM

I've had my D700 since March so today I thought I'd read the Instruction Manual. Phew, what a lot of things it does - that I don't need!

I buy my own photographic kit. Diving equipment manufacturers and diving services suppliers get even-handed treatment from me whether they choose to advertise in the publications I write for or not. All the equipment I get on loan is returned as soon as it is finished with. Did you know you can now get Diver Mag as an iPad/Android app?

 

#16 TheRealDrew

TheRealDrew

    Humpback Whale

  • Moderator
  • 2855 posts

Posted 12 July 2009 - 09:17 AM

I've had my D700 since March so today I thought I'd read the Instruction Manual. Phew, what a lot of things it does - that I don't need!



LOL, I hear that. I use three or four things, ISO, Aperture, Shutter, Auto Bracketing for HDR and that is about it. Though I will need to break out the manual to learn how to use the 5D II for Video :D

#17 DeanB

DeanB

    Humpback Whale

  • Industry
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3073 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:U.K

Posted 12 July 2009 - 01:23 PM

So what is the new over/under date on the Scarlet? I know the recent mentions are this Fall. :D (Though in fact I do think they will be coming out this Fall..finally)


I honestly don't know... I'm happy with my ancient video gear... But I wouldn't be spending thousands on a stills cam that does a bit of video at the mo... If Scarlet does what all the rumours say it would be a bit of a waste of money... For me ...

Dive safe

DeanB
Facebook me ;)
NOW ON SKYPE !!! ... deanb69
www.waterwolf-productions.co.uk

#18 mexwell

mexwell

    Sting Ray

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 200 posts
  • Location:Haan (Duesseldorf) - Germany

Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:30 AM

Drew,

I just discovered this thread...
I feel very sorry to be part of the "problem"... NOT!

You will enjoy it. For sure I did!
Best regards

Christian


Photo& Video: Canon 5D MkII - Ikelite housing - Ikelite DS-125 - Ikelite DS-50
Glas Canon 50mm Macro - Canon 100mm Macro - Canon 17-40mm
Video only: Sony HC7 - Topdawg II Housing and Light System - Gorillapod UW-Tripod
My Website with Pictures and HD movies Last update 01-2010

#19 PRC

PRC

    Great White

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1163 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Guernsey Channel Islands

Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:51 PM

Great thread Drew - may need to email a link to my missus to help explain away a few purchases......


Paul C
Nikon D300, Subal, 2 * Inon 240
Water Temp (just cold & Nasty)
My Pictures

#20 John Bantin

John Bantin

    Sperm Whale

  • Industry
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1857 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Teddington/Twickenham UK
  • Interests:former Technical Editor of
    Diver Magazine (UK) and www.divernet.com
    occasional contributor
    SportDiver (Aus)
    Undercurrent
    Author of Amazing Diving Stories (Wiley Nautical)

Posted 14 July 2009 - 11:01 PM

I've just been in BVI and found myself jumping in alongside Mauricio Handler. He was using an obsolete digital camera and a 10.5 and his pictures were ten times better than mine!

I buy my own photographic kit. Diving equipment manufacturers and diving services suppliers get even-handed treatment from me whether they choose to advertise in the publications I write for or not. All the equipment I get on loan is returned as soon as it is finished with. Did you know you can now get Diver Mag as an iPad/Android app?