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#1 johnny boy

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 03:17 PM

anyone seen one of these in the flesh yet? any comments or views?

http://www.lightandm...oducts_id/12068

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 03:26 PM

anyone seen one of these in the flesh yet? any comments or views?

http://www.lightandm...oducts_id/12068


Paul Barnett from LMI USA will be posting some videos on this soon, or so he told me on an email last week. I've also been waiting for anyone who has the housing and hfs-10/11 to report on it????

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:13 PM

I will be shooting the C135 / HFS11 combo in a few days and will report back when I get a connection.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:39 PM

Paul Barnett from LMI USA will be posting some videos on this soon, or so he told me on an email last week. I've also been waiting for anyone who has the housing and hfs-10/11 to report on it????



Guamrider. I have the bluefin and S10. my underwater adventures with this combination have been somewhat limited due to initial problems, all of which are now sorted. [see my other threads, Paul Barnett was well aware of the issues but has yet to have the decency to reply to my email]. the camera performs great and the access to the menu systems via the controls is fantastic. i have the OLED back and the display of the menus and scrolling them is really polished. basically buy it now! but make sure the dealer sells you an up to date sorted unit, the manual gearing wheel being the most annoying thing i had to endure. I haven't posted anything due to the limited connection speed i have in my part of the world. You tube just doesnt do it justice. editing AVCHD format regardless of whether it's sony or canon is an arse, and requires a super computer of gargantuan power. My tandy TRS80 hasn't got a chance!

I'm excited about the new lenses as the basic flat port is of limited use to me. So come on Mooney and get some feedback posted!

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 05:51 PM

You tube just doesnt do it justice. editing AVCHD format regardless of whether it's sony or canon is an arse, and requires a super computer of gargantuan power.


I wouldn't try and edit AVCHD convert it to something else and that should make it easier.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:20 PM

My tandy TRS80 hasn't got a chance!


LOL I actually KNOW what a Tandy TRS80 was!!

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:55 PM

I think I saw one of these at the Brum Diveshow on the FEP stand ??? ... Looked pretty cool altho I didn't get a chance to see it in action ... I was also told that L&M have stopped competing in the 'Pro' housing market and are now concentrating on the smaller cams ...

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:49 AM

I think I saw one of these at the Brum Diveshow on the FEP stand ??? ... Looked pretty cool altho I didn't get a chance to see it in action ... I was also told that L&M have stopped competing in the 'Pro' housing market and are now concentrating on the smaller cams ...

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Dean,

Yes your right. although the results from this little S10 unit with all the manual controls it has is plenty good enough for us serious amateurs. By the way, i did get to sell my FX1 to Vince Hyland over in ireland. Boy, did he get a bargain. i miss my silver dream machine [que David Essex complete with 70's neckerchief].

What day were you down at de show man? i was there saturday. by 3pm i was 'fatigued' and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:10 AM

Dean,

Yes your right. although the results from this little S10 unit with all the manual controls it has is plenty good enough for us serious amateurs. By the way, i did get to sell my FX1 to Vince Hyland over in ireland. Boy, did he get a bargain. i miss my silver dream machine [que David Essex complete with 70's neckerchief].

What day were you down at de show man? i was there saturday. by 3pm i was 'fatigued' and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.

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No doubt, I'm still using the A1 for U/W stuff at the mo :( ... Jacky and I went on the Sunday as we wanted to see the great Paul Watson give his talk... What a legend !!! ... After a few 'swift cheeky ones' I was ready for home as well ... ;) :uwphotog:

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 12:47 PM

the camera performs great and the access to the menu systems via the controls is fantastic. i have the OLED back and the display of the menus and scrolling them is really polished.


Thanks for this info. You are the first that I can find that actually has given an "independent" review of the camera/housing. I'm currently using an older Amphibico/Sony a1u and am considering the new one for both the improvement in quality over hdv (??), more flexibility of control, and the wide lens. (Editing in pro res).

BUT...6K or so is a lot to spend so it would be very nice to actually see some footage in both macro and wide from the camera. Think I'll keep waiting.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:14 PM

Thanks for this info. You are the first that I can find that actually has given an "independent" review of the camera/housing. I'm currently using an older Amphibico/Sony a1u and am considering the new one for both the improvement in quality over hdv (??), more flexibility of control, and the wide lens. (Editing in pro res).

BUT...6K or so is a lot to spend so it would be very nice to actually see some footage in both macro and wide from the camera. Think I'll keep waiting.


Once i have some footage worth posting i will. I am considering posting an in depth review in the near future when i actually get time. I'm probably the first person in the UK to actually own one of these, so i'm a rare species. regarding flexibilty of control - i have access to all the controls i would ever need. i used to own an FX1 in a bluefin which had absolutely every control known to man and i dont notice any real difference now i have the S10. the only thing i dont have acces to is manual aperture control AT THE SAME TIME as manual shutter. but this is easily worked around. i set it in TV shutter priority mode and lock in 50th shutter speed, then engage the custom dial to control exposure which then adjusts exposure up and down. i can use the quick set button to access manal focus using the < > controls on the left hand grip. What i've noticed light and motion improve upon when it comes to manual focus is that the actual usability of electronic focus controls via the < > buttons is a 100% improvement. anyone who's owned any of the older housings [personally trv950 and FX1], will know how the manual focus control was poor. the accuracy was hit n miss at best. thats why the S10 with its manual dial control that could be assigned to manual focus stood out from the crowd for me. This works great, but when i tried manual focus assigned to the < > buttons and the focus control was progressive, sure and steady, [not overly quick or jumpy as previous housings] it was a fantastic suprise and a huge bonus! the housing and camera is perhaps the best small setup with [in my opinion] the best control set.

add in a quality wide angle [hence the thread title] or a few fathom lens choices [come on fathom/L & M, get your finger out and get them released and out there] - you have an absolute killer system that should sell a boat load and make paul barnett a rich man. he may then even reply to his emails...


I eagerly await reports and reviews from DEMA.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 04:04 PM

Although Ive yet to play with this lens, it sure sounds amazing from what Ive heard. We will have our first shipment of them coming in soon and Ill have an opportunity to play with it. Will report on my findings.
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 05:23 PM

Ok. Got my hands on the 135 w/a. first impressions are good. nice build quality. little bit of play on the lens bayonet mount when mounted on housing. not as tight as flat port. not overly heavy or large, and nicely sized for housing. shot some indoor footage tonight. no apparent vignetting. curved adge distortion as you'd expect from 135 w/a. zoom range is roughly what they advertise it at - 33 - 40% at a pinch zoom thru. i use the 1.7 tele convertor feature anyway and that works ok with this lens. comes with nice dome port cover protector [neoprene hood thingy]. looking forward to getting wet with it and will report on how it handles underwater soon.

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 12:28 AM

Great John, cant wait to hear your report.
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