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#1 cor

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 12:38 AM

For all travelers, it seems the fumbled plot to blow up some device in an airliner a few days ago has again created widespread hysteria, and in the wake of that you may want to pay close attention to what the airlines are doing. I need to travel in a few days and BA is now saying to only bring 1 piece of hand luggage, and in the air restrictions may apply to the use of any electronic device (book readers, ipods, etc) during the whole flight.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 10:38 AM

Yes, I'm dreading this one. Last time it was liquids - perhaps this time it will be no more electronic devices carried on board :-( Ugh.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 10:56 AM

I was just sent an email by my airline regarding the new rules. I'm leaving my cameras behind in Asia when I go back home.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 11:22 AM

Please remove your clothes and place them in the basket then proceed to the body cavity search zone...bend over and grab your ankles!
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Posted 27 December 2009 - 11:24 AM

Total Recall is closer than you think :)
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Posted 27 December 2009 - 11:40 AM

I read this morning that another proposal is to require all passengers to remain in their seats for the last hour of the flight. This means on a 90 minute flight, where you're supposed to stay seated while they climb to altitude, you won't be able to get up at all! Oh, and please put on this straitjacket when you board...

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 12:13 PM

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 01:56 PM

This is what Alaska Airlines has to say (just in time for the Olympics! When one goes to the US (at least for Seattle flights) from Vancouver one goes through US customs before getting on the plane - I have been through this a few times but have not noticed if this operation has anything to do with Transport Canada, mentioned below):

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New International Security Directive

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued a new security directive affecting flights departing international locations arriving in the United States. For Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air passengers this affects flights coming from Canada or Mexico into the United States.

Passengers traveling from Canada or Mexico should arrive at the airport a minimum of 2 hours before departure in order to help with the additional security measures.

* Additional Searches: All passengers flying into the United States will be searched at the departure gate, in addition to normal screening at security checkpoints.
* Carry-on Luggage: From Canada or Mexico, carry-on luggage will also be searched at the departure gate. Transport Canada has limited the number of carry-on luggage to one (1) through the security checkpoint for passengers traveling from Canada to the United States. To minimize boarding delays, passengers are encouraged to check all their luggage. Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will waive baggage fees for items checked as baggage that the passenger otherwise would have taken aboard as carry-on baggage from Canada or Mexico.
* Additional Inflight Security: Added security measures while on the international flights are also being put into effect.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 02:17 PM

I looks like a total FUBAR in Amsterdam and with US security. This mullet was on a watch list and still managed to enter the US several times. May be they needed a Dutch shepard to stick its nose up his butt to sniff for PETN. There is really no way to completly protect an air line. Sadly, as in war, we always reacting in terms of the last one.
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Posted 27 December 2009 - 07:39 PM

I flew today from Tucson through Denver to Kansa City. I was expecting a painful security hassle. Instead we zoomed through. They even informed me that there is no longer any need to keep your boarding pass available when you go through the metal detector. The initial check when you show your ID is enough. 30 minutes from the house to the gate. I wouldn't try that if I was coming in from Amsterdam.

Good luck if you're flying international for a while.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 09:30 PM

It will be interesting to see what additional security measures will be on American Airlines for the flight I will be taking from Grand Cayman to Miami in a couple weeks. I'll be on my way back from Alex Mustard's UW Photography Workshop.

I wonder how many terrorists fly from Grand Cayman into the US? :)

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 02:47 AM

All this nonsense caused by one more extemist who was on the terrorist list yet was given a visa by the Americans. Incompetance or ???? In any case the security procedures at Amsterdam have always been strict and obviously weren't good enough. Now they'll have a show trial and clamp down on the "normal" folk and we'll let a few more freedoms slip away.. Air travel has long been unpleasant, the airlines just keep making it worse. Can't wait to retire to someplace good to dive and stop all this airline travel torture. Just grit my teeth and bend over!

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 06:29 AM

I wonder how many terrorists fly from Grand Cayman into the US? :)

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Most all of them, especially the grandmothers and toddlers.

It is not possible to search your way to 100% security. The current security strategy is ineffective. It can only become effective with complete body and baggage search, which is impractical. The most effective approach is people screening instead of property screening. But people screening isn't, nor can it be effective in its current form.
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Posted 28 December 2009 - 07:38 AM

Be careful walking through security without shoes on. A couple weeks ago a man filed a lawsuit against the Buffalo International Airport (New York) becouse two years ago he cut his foot on some glass while he had his shoes off. He's asking for $500,000 in damages. Kind of ironic, the people who are there to protect you are the ones you have to fear!
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Posted 28 December 2009 - 01:00 PM

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I think BackScatter X-Rays are already in TSA hands. But I doubt they'll get approval for machines powerful enough to see my endoskeletal image as I pass security. Think of all the cancer lawsuits!
Then again if they have to scan every single passenger with a MMW or X-ray body scan, then I shudder to think of how long it'll take to board an A380 plane!
These "measures" are mostly done to placate and calm the public. Taking away potty privileges, blankets and pillows and inflight entertainment in the last hour of flight is not about effectiveness. There will never be a 100% effective plan. Do people really think any measures from profiling to body scans will remove all risk? Depending on which measurements you use, flying is still safer than driving. Yet we all go on the highway like it's back in the womb safe. There are risks involved in EVERYTHING we do. Every system that involves having humans work it is inherently flawed. Umar got through despite being on a watch list because of human error. The security system works well enough. People just have to accept there are risks involved in living.
Anyhow, with emissions cutting being all the rage, perhaps flying less is a good thing :)

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 02:32 PM

I flew today from Tucson through Denver to Kansa City. I was expecting a painful security hassle. Instead we zoomed through. They even informed me that there is no longer any need to keep your boarding pass available when you go through the metal detector. The initial check when you show your ID is enough. 30 minutes from the house to the gate. I wouldn't try that if I was coming in from Amsterdam.

Good luck if you're flying international for a while.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 07:44 AM

Yesterday Delta/Northwest was only allowing purses to be carried on board flights into the US from Canada, claiming a Transport Canada restriction. No amount of protesting could get my laptop bag classified as a man purse, so I had to check it. United at the same airport was allowing 1 carry on per person. Delta allowed you to carry on laptops by themselves, just no bags to speed security screening. No electronics were permitted to be used during the entire flight.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 08:00 AM

WTH? No man bag? That's sexist! Why do women get a bag and not men? ACLU where are you?
In a few months it'll all calm down and then it'll get back to semi-normalcy I hope!

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:29 AM

Yesterday Delta/Northwest was only allowing purses to be carried on board flights into the US from Canada, claiming a Transport Canada restriction. No amount of protesting could get my laptop bag classified as a man purse, so I had to check it. United at the same airport was allowing 1 carry on per person. Delta allowed you to carry on laptops by themselves, just no bags to speed security screening. No electronics were permitted to be used during the entire flight.


what about camera bags?

(This just makes the people stealing all checked luggage have a bigger pool of nice items to steal.)

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:11 PM

Yesterday Delta/Northwest was only allowing purses to be carried on board flights into the US from Canada, claiming a Transport Canada restriction. No amount of protesting could get my laptop bag classified as a man purse, so I had to check it. United at the same airport was allowing 1 carry on per person. Delta allowed you to carry on laptops by themselves, just no bags to speed security screening. No electronics were permitted to be used during the entire flight.



Ryan,

How do you check a laptop without it getting trashed? Sounds like I need to prepare myself to check in my photo equip carry-on just in case this thing turns uglier. Do you have any bag recommendations or should I just pack a Pelican Case and hope to hell I have equipment to shoot with when I get to my destination?

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