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#1 leonandclaudia

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:35 PM

The mantas are in full swing at Manta Point in the Raja Ampat, with up to 75 mantas in an area the size of 2 football fields.
To add to the beauty of this incredible underwater event, we were graced by the presence of a certain ‘Jon’, a live-aboard guest or perhaps a dive-guide? Only Jon would know.
Jon was armed to the teeth with a sharp object, and carved out his all-important name on a prominent coral head, to make sure that mantas would never forget that they met Mr. Jon.
Jon, please join us next time, so that we can take a picture of you, and prove to the world that real idiots do exist. It would be really nice if you let us carve the word ’IDIOT’ on your forehead. Believe me, brother you will feel no pain, all you have up there is bone!
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:37 PM

Jon, please join us next time, so that we can take a picture of you, and prove to the world that real idiots do exist. It would be really nice if you let us carve the word ’IDIOT’ on your forehead. Believe me, brother you will feel no pain, all you have up there is bone!


Really no words for that. Unreal. Just do not know how someone carves their name into coral....

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 06:15 PM

yep, have seen that before....

truly a sad axxhole.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 01:33 PM

please upload photo of the hole he ended up in...

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 03:20 PM

The words Keel and Haul come to mind for some reason. Wonder if Jon was on a liveaboard . . .

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 05:30 AM

Yep, saw something like that in Bunaken. Then beside it a group was sitting on the corals and grabbing the huge vase sponges, the very ones carved into. Disgusting to say the least.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 07:14 AM

Someone did that at our Mandarinfish dive here in Lembeh too. CAnt remember the name over here, will get the staff to check next time they are out.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 02:07 AM

I've seen it done on a turtle shell before too.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:15 PM

Here is a screenshot taken from a video of the artwork!
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I hope we get a picture of the offender in action and create a "Most Wanted" poster.

Looking at the screenshot, it looks like the idiot is a repeat offender. Looks like the initials were carved before on the right side and looks older. Same initials appearing in other areas?

There must be witnesses able to confirm sightings of a fresh carving, if not identify suspicious behavior.

Have we asked help from the dive operations and their divemasters in the area where these carvings appear?

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:37 PM

I've seen it done on a turtle shell before too.


Man, that is just sick! Such a shame ...
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:48 PM

And for the rest of us named "Jon", everyone will wonder if we're the #$%@head who did it.

Bummer.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:25 AM

This is as frustrating to me as it is to everyone else commenting on this narcissistic act, but is it the best idea to post JON's name on the front page of Wetpixel?????? This is giving him the attention he so badly craves....

The entire vandalism/graffiti movement began in New York City in 1972 when a delivery boy began scrawling his nom-de-plume "TAKI 183" on walls through out the city.....the New York Times published a picture of the graffiti tag and low-and-behold a graffiti epidemic broke-out in NYC with thousands of copy cats seeking similar "fame" and media recognition and destroying millions of $$$s in public and private property. In this age of instant cyberspace media, the last thing we need is to give other boneheads/narcissists any ideas..."Hey, if I scratch my name on other coral heads/turtle shells I can become a dive outlaw and be covered by Wetpixel, Skin Diver, and Undercurrent".

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:46 AM

And for the rest of us named "Jon", everyone will wonder if we're the #$%@head who did it.

Bummer.

I have a huge suspicion that if anyone bumps into a 'Jon' on a dive boat it will be instantly apparent if he is the coral carver or not. He is bound to be very special in very unfortunate ways.


This is as frustrating to me as it is to everyone else commenting on this narcissistic act, but is it the best idea to post JON's name on the front page of Wetpixel?????? This is giving him the attention he so badly craves....

The entire vandalism/graffiti movement began in New York City in 1972 when a delivery boy began scrawling his nom-de-plume "TAKI 183" on walls through out the city.....the New York Times published a picture of the graffiti tag and low-and-behold a graffiti epidemic broke-out in NYC with thousands of copy cats seeking similar "fame" and media recognition and destroying millions of $$$s in public and private property. In this age of instant cyberspace media, the last thing we need is to give other boneheads/narcissists any ideas..."Hey, if I scratch my name on other coral heads/turtle shells I can become a dive outlaw and be covered by Wetpixel, Skin Diver, and Undercurrent".

The history of graffiti could be argued all the way back to cavemen, if not at least the ancient civilizations, but in it's modern form and especially in tagging or writing with 'names' has most often been associated (and i even learnt this in school) to World War 2. I believe during WW2 the Americans started writing 'Kilroy was here' images where they went. Still got to love that Kilroy!!

Anyway, I would hope that rather than creating the fame this Jon is craving we are actually showing the world and him through our modern world communication system of the internet that it is looked down upon to carve your name into a living animal. True graffiti is not about killing animals so much as it is buildings and domiciles for art or political reasons. Infact modern grafitii artists such as Banksy would probably be disgusted by this form of art as would the bboys of the hip hop world who help keep the art alive.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:56 PM

I dare the person to own up to his act!
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 12:41 PM

I dare the person to own up to his act!


I doubt anyone that would do something like that would be a Wetpixel member.
Better question; did he make it off the boat.....
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 05:46 AM

Hiya Leon & Claudia,

I'm afraid Jon wasn't the only moron to leave his mark at your lovely Manta Point - this is from there too, snapped last month...

Kapcia and Waisal (?) seem to have wanted our undying admiration too.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 05:51 AM

Seriously, WTF are these people thinking...

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 07:12 AM

Seriously, WTF are these people thinking...



But but but!!! its just a rock!!!

Sheesh.. people are dumb

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 09:34 AM

But but but!!! its just a rock!!!

Sheesh.. people are dumb



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Posted 17 February 2010 - 09:36 AM

Unfortunately this sort of defacing is something we all see everywhere. Books/movies have romanticized the X heart Y cupid arrow etching on a tree/rock etc that it's acceptable (I've seen this in Uluru/Kata Tjuta, Yellowstone, Plitvicka etc, pretty much anywhere tourists go.
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