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#1 Poliwog

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 06:39 AM

Does anyone know of a very stiff, light weight, open foot, adjustable strap fin that I can use for my dive travel kit?

I recently upgraded my wetsuit boots to the Oceanic "Neo classic" from the basic Bare boot, and that in turn required me to upgrade my fins as well.

I had been using the Wenoka "Sea Style" open foot adjustable fin (no longer manufactured as far as I know), which I like very much because of the power and speed I can generate with them. The problem with them now is that they have an extremely narrow foot pocket which the Oceanic "Neo Classic" dive boot will not fit into. I purchased a set of Oceanic "Viper" fins to solve the foot pocket problem, but find that they are way too flexible for my liking. I usually end up overpowering them very quickly and feel like I'm just "spinning my wheels" so to speak.

The Wenoka "Sea Style" fins that I had been using previously for at least the last 10 - 15 years allow three stiffening ribs to be inserted into the fin to make them very stiff and powerful (they are as flexible as a wooden board with the three stiffing ribs inserted and can cramp your legs up if your not careful with them), but I like them and have not been able to adjust to a more flexible fin.

An old motorcycle accident injury precludes me from considering anything but an open foot adjustable strap design, so full foot fins are out of consideration for me.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:01 PM

Does anyone know of a very stiff, light weight, open foot, adjustable strap fin that I can use for my dive travel kit?

I recently upgraded my wetsuit boots to the Oceanic "Neo classic" from the basic Bare boot, and that in turn required me to upgrade my fins as well.

I had been using the Wenoka "Sea Style" open foot adjustable fin (no longer manufactured as far as I know), which I like very much because of the power and speed I can generate with them. The problem with them now is that they have an extremely narrow foot pocket which the Oceanic "Neo Classic" dive boot will not fit into. I purchased a set of Oceanic "Viper" fins to solve the foot pocket problem, but find that they are way too flexible for my liking. I usually end up overpowering them very quickly and feel like I'm just "spinning my wheels" so to speak.

The Wenoka "Sea Style" fins that I had been using previously for at least the last 10 - 15 years allow three stiffening ribs to be inserted into the fin to make them very stiff and powerful (they are as flexible as a wooden board with the three stiffing ribs inserted and can cramp your legs up if your not careful with them), but I like them and have not been able to adjust to a more flexible fin.

An old motorcycle accident injury precludes me from considering anything but an open foot adjustable strap design, so full foot fins are out of consideration for me.

Thanks.



You'll not spin your wheels in a pair of Jetfins.

They may be a bit heavy though.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:51 PM

The stiffest (but heaviest) are the Jetfins and his derivations and the JetFins have a very wide footpocket.
http://www.scubapro....e-fins/jet-fins
Still stiff but lighter are Cressi Master Frog:
http://www.cressi.it...tails.asp?id=15
Both are perfect for frog kick.
Get a pair of Spring Straps, they will help you greatly donning them.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:10 PM

I would second the cressi frog recommendation

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:35 AM

Hi Guys,

Thanks for responding to my post.

I do have a pair of Jet Fins, and while they powerful, they are also very heavy for travel purposes. I just upgraded to a new lightweight BC and fear the extra weight of the Jet Fins would negate any reduced weight benefit from the BC that I just purchased.

The Cressi sub Master Frog fins look more like what I am interested in for a powerful lightweight travel fin.

Thanks to all for contributing to this thread.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:41 AM

I cant believe nobodys mentioned them yet,
Force fins will fit all your requirements, I use them and love them!! they take a bit of getting used to though
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:20 AM

Check out the OMS Slipstreams - 5.4lbs w/springstraps dry weight. Not sure about exact buoyancy u/w, I would guess about -1 to -2lb range. Foot pocket will work well with hard sole boots.

http://www.scubatoys...MSSLIPSTREAMfin

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 12:12 PM

Check out the OMS Slipstreams - 5.4lbs w/springstraps dry weight. Not sure about exact buoyancy u/w, I would guess about -1 to -2lb range. Foot pocket will work well with hard sole boots.

http://www.scubatoys...MSSLIPSTREAMfin

+1. OMS SlipStreams. Looks just like Jet fins, but notably lighter, so much better for travel. (as long as you don't need a heavy fin for trim)

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 06:21 AM

http://www.divernet..../star_fins.html

We've just finished a newer test with fitter younger divers. Uncannily, I personally recorded the same speeds with the fins that feature in both comparison tests despite the time difference. The latest test will not be on-line until April.

Edited by John Bantin, 24 January 2011 - 06:26 AM.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:29 AM

I like the Aqualung Blade II with stainless springs. I find them very stiff and great for travelling too.

I dont understand why you need to do speed tests on diving fins...? We dont speed around when we dive so I see the speed test pointless.

I like fins to be comfortable and have plenty of power when you need it.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 05:24 AM

I like the Aqualung Blade II with stainless springs. I find them very stiff and great for travelling too.

I dont understand why you need to do speed tests on diving fins...? We dont speed around when we dive so I see the speed test pointless.

I like fins to be comfortable and have plenty of power when you need it.

regards Mark


I would guess the speed test is to show how powerful they are, for use against currents?

Force fins!!!
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Posted 09 February 2011 - 02:10 AM

I like the Aqualung Blade II with stainless springs. I find them very stiff and great for travelling too.

I dont understand why you need to do speed tests on diving fins...? We dont speed around when we dive so I see the speed test pointless.

I like fins to be comfortable and have plenty of power when you need it.

regards Mark


How else would you measure the efficacy of a fin? Suggestions are always welcome. By the way, Blade II are discontinued.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 07:26 PM

Thanks John, your dive fin test results were interesting to read.

I just returned from diving in Roatan with a pair of the Cressi Master Frog fins. I like the stiffness of the fins and have decided to use them as standard equipment in my dive kit.

In addition to being a very stiff long fin, I found them to a wide fin as well. I kept thinking I was colliding with another diver with my fins but soon realized that I was not accounting for the increase in width of the fin when moving through the water column. Another minor difference I encountered was on the dive boat, with such long fins, it is easy to get entangled with the fins of other divers when space is limited on the boat.

These fins fit the bill very nicely for me, but keep the suggestions coming. I'm always looking for ways to improve the quality of my dives.
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