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[Drew]

Sitting here in Paramount, at the Canon presentation for the EOS C(Cinema) 300. 5 lenses so far... compatible with DSLR as well. 30-300! Go to engadget for pics. My playbook is acting up and I have to leave soon to catch the Red event. LA traffic!

[Drew]

S35 8MP sensor, 1080P only with dual CF. HDMI/HDSDI 422 10bit MXF. Genlock and SD card for stills. 20k for PL and 16k for EF maybe. All lenses 4K
No AE/AF. All manual shooting..

[Drew]

Looks like a good camera to house. Boxy and modular... Handle removable. I can see possiblities. HDMI out to an external monitor. A bit boring @ 1080p but that's why I driving to Red's event

[TheRealDrew]

A bit boring @ 1080p but that's why I driving to Red's event

Hopefully they do not delay the event Have fun.

[Drew]

Sorry, BB is a bit zonky... Think everyone here is jamming up ATT and Verizon bandwidth.

Lowlight looks fantastic on La Foret's short. All links are dead or dying due toi traffic. Bumped into Vince. His blog will have the short in about an hour. Hmm got an email from John E (gates) that his housing is somewhere here on display. Running out of time. Gotta go beat traffic to eat then Red studios.

[Drew]

Off to Red studios by 5 for their announcement. So nice of them to make it all in Hollywood and within 10 blocks of each other. So many tech pundits here, I don't know why I'm posting!

[Drew]

Guys check engadget and vincelaforet for updates. I'm going to eat then go to red (4 blks from paramount! You think someone arranged this for the people attending?).

[SimonSpear]

http://www.dvinfo.ne...pl-cameras.html

They had this posted virtually as soon as the presentation started! A bit of a let down to be honest. How can this be a 'Historic Global Announcement'? Very strange hype from Canon over this...

[DeanB]

C300

Hope this link works... Off my iPhone

Dean



Here's the link ...

Edited by DeanB, 03 November 2011 - 05:01 PM.

[CheungyDiver]

Canon C300 Cinema, new PL lenses - Great short film by Vincent LaForet

Scarlet X - anyone ordered one ?


Canon EOS 4K concept DSLR just announced. My head is spinning....

Interesting times indeed.


David

[jonny shaw]

Canon looks ok, but 1080p and not even higher frame rates, that 30-300 lens look bloody awesome though.

Scarlet, looks great I am still in two minds whether to pick up a 2nd hand red one mx or a Scarlet, I need a camera for a show in Feb.....

[Nick Hope]

This appears to be utterly blown away by Scarlet in every category, not least (for me) in the fact there is no autofocus or momentary autofocus. Really surprised they haven't managed more than 30p at 1080p. Not even Canon's worldwide service network is that much of an advantage, since you can just buy 2 Scarlets for the same money and have one as a spare.

[Drew]

Nick, when you add it all up, the running cost of Scarlet is probably going to be a bit higher with SSD drives etc. The package with AL mount is 14k. The Canon will be 15k street. Then it's a matter of other things like run time etc. AF is not a concern for cinematic guys, which is the market the C300 is aimed at. Also ever tried editing R3D on a laptop? C300 is a mobile solution.
Then of course, you have the 4k concept camera which will probably turn up in 2013 in the same body as the 1Dx maybe.
Reds aren't nearly as reliable as a F35 or Alexa.

[Nick Hope]

Yeah, and I read on Howard Hall's blog that his Red One actually melted in Lembeh.

I understand that AF is unnecessary for topside cinematic guys, but the ability to do at least a momentary AF is a big bonus for underwater wildlife shooting where one doesn't always have the luxury of time. I think it's lack will rule the C300 out for many people for that purpose.

I'm not really in the market for either of these cameras anyway. I'm more of a 7D mkII kind of guy, if one ever comes out. Weatherproof, a bit less challenging (I assume) in terms of DOF due to the cropped sensor, gazillions of res/fps choices, and hopefully an articulated screen for topside use. The concept 4K DSLRs look interesting though.

Edited by Nick Hope, 04 November 2011 - 12:45 AM.

[Drew]

Nick, the S35 is about the same size as the APS-C...just a tiny bit larger.

[Nick Hope]

In other words, similar DOF with like-for-like lenses/settings/FOV between a Scarlet and a 7D, and both more DOF than a 5D mkII or C300?

[Drew]

Both the C300 and Scarlet/Epic have S35 sensors.

[Nick Hope]

Ah OK, thanks. I should read the blummin specs. I had been assuming this was more like a 5D mkII in a video camera form factor. Now I'm wondering what the C300 has to justify the extra price over the Sony FS100, other than higher bitrate for onboard capture.

[Drew]

Here is the page with the shorts that were screened @ Paramount. Big screen is much better!

http://www.canoncine...dia-gallery.php

[Drew]

And here's the Mobius (bloody Trek rip!)

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