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[Drew]

Sony's F65... 2k, 4k or 8k?

http://tinyurl.com/824dat6

[SimonSpear]

I went to a F65 hands on, presentation and screening a few weeks ago. During the powerpoint presentation they made great pains to emphasise that it was a true 4k sensor inside the F65 and while they didn't mention any names it was clear that they didn't consider other 4k+ sensors to be 4k or anywhere near that at all. Looks like they've now changed their speel to suggest that their sensor is now in fact 8k!! Oh what tangled webs we weave.....

[DeanB]

I went to a F65 hands on, presentation and screening a few weeks ago.

A) Because you are interested in purchasing one

B) You have way too much free time on your hands

Dean

[SimonSpear]

A: I was in the area for a meeting anyway (Shepherd's Bush)

and

B: I wanted to see 4k projected in 4k. (very nice)

[Drew]

I went to a F65 hands on, presentation and screening a few weeks ago. During the powerpoint presentation they made great pains to emphasise that it was a true 4k sensor inside the F65 and while they didn't mention any names it was clear that they didn't consider other 4k+ sensors to be 4k or anywhere near that at all. Looks like they've now changed their speel to suggest that their sensor is now in fact 8k!! Oh what tangled webs we weave.....

Simon, it was advertised at 8k all the way back to Sep. Perhaps the guys doing the presentation didn't follow the book? I know they usually have at least one guy who knows everything at these shows but sometimes they screw up.

I posted this for the exciting news of 8k output in the next gen, which only Dalsa had the market so far.

I've been watching people do post on a 4k fim shot on a F65. The raw is gorgeous. The reason why Sony poopoos the other 4k is because of debayering which loses about 1/4-1/3 of resolution (depending on whom you ask!). WIth a 8k sensor, the resolution is more like 6k, which is still higher output than Epic et al.

Plus it shots uncompressed RAW on 1TB SRmem card and is $65k, which is not too far off from a fully outfitted Epic or Alexa.

[DeanB]

A: I was in the area for a meeting anyway (Shepherd's Bush)

and

B: I wanted to see 4k projected in 4k. (very nice)

A) nice

B) sounds pretty awesome, better start saving for that 4k screen

Dean

[jonny shaw]

I thought the price was closer to $115K

I saw one the other day.... it's a beast!

[SimonSpear]

The Sony guys were claiming it would be similar hire rates to EPIC, with a purchase price of around £60k in the UK.

[Drew]

I thought the price was closer to $115K

I saw one the other day.... it's a beast!

Must be the size that made you think it cost more!

Sony did get very aggressive with price. It probably was due to Alexa and Red. It's fantastic! Soon a full 4k package with 60+fps will be available in 1-2 years for under $50k, if the market can bear it!

[jonny shaw]

Just need some 4K tv's

That is great value for that camera and coming from Sony you know it will work straight off the bat and won't break down

[Drew]

Glasses free 3D @ QFHD! You'll need 2 Scarlets!

http://www.toshiba.c.../x3/index_j.htm

[jonny shaw]

Don't say that. I'm gonna be broke with one and a housing let alone two and a Deep Atom

I hope 3D dies mainly because of that.

Merry Christmas everyone

[Drew]

Actually you'll need 3... you must have a backup!

[peterbkk]

Will it and a housing fit into a carry-on bag?

[DeanB]

Will it and a housing fit into a carry-on bag?

It's a private jet sort of camera

Dean

[Drew]

Will it and a housing fit into a carry-on bag?

Sure, if you buy a seat for it.

[Drew]

The F65RS is even more interesting, since it has built in ND filters and also uses a rotary shutter system to remove CMOS artifacts.
Of course, I just saw the math on the "8k" claim and was thinking how does 20mp=8k? There is some marketing math here.