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#1 Neopreneninja

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 01:48 AM

Hi fellow Wetpixl's!
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Here is a Photo that I took a while back.
Pink Leaf fish-Malaysia-Borneo-Mabul isl. Juli 2009
Gear: Fuji F31fd, Inon AD macro wet lens, DIY Ring flash-Dual Fantasea Nano strobs & Fantasea 360 focus light.
Setting's: "A" mode, 100 iso, f 7.1, 1/60, -1/3 Exp, app. 1/3 zoom & Forced flash.
Photoshop: color balance, sharpness and contrast. Only very small adjustments as this is a Jepg.
Distance to subjekt: app. 15-25cm

As is clearly visible the pic. is soft/un sharp towards the edges a problem I've encountered before and after! I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong..
So is it too tight? Framing vice (framing as shot) General comments

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#2 JimSwims

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:49 PM

Hi Neopreneninja,

it can be tricky to squeeze out the best using the Inon UCL165 AD lens. They make images notoriously soft all around the edges and give a very limited DOF,
especially when stacking them. Make sure you have the aperture at the highest setting, can your camera go another stop narrower? Looks like the focal
point is not on the eye but the middle of the frame/fish. The technique that worked best for me when I used to use them was Lock, Rock and Release. Lock
focus(half press shutter button and hold) on the point you want, in this case probably the eye. Recompose image to get the framing you want then Rock the
camera back and forth until you find the point that the image in the viewfinder is as you want it. Hold steady and Release the shutter. Of course you'll need
to find a very patient or slow subject.

Cheers,
Jim.


Edited- to correct the Inon lens code.

Edited by JimSwims, 14 July 2012 - 12:49 AM.

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#3 Neopreneninja

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:28 PM

Hi Jim!

Solid advise! Thanks!!!
I'll deff be trying your "lock & wriggle" technique
+I will back of a bit to move the softness away from the subject and then crop...I originally moved this close to use all of my 6.3 mil.pixel's and to max my pixel's one the subject...guess I got too close with the limitations of my kit

But your right the limitations of P&S are many: Aperture/DOF control, focus point selection, real eTTL, solid shutter lack...you often have to guess where the fish will likely be buy the time the camera fires...etc
Plus it seem's/sounds like that the INON also have an issue reg. edge sharpness....nice to know other's exp.

The maximum aperture is f8 one my little Fuji! I stepped one down in the hope of less corner softness as I exp. with DSLR's max aperture also softens up the edges of an image....esp. tele/macro. Like my Canon 100mm and up(one a 5D mkII and 20D)


This raises a whole new level of gear lust! ;-) Is the Subsee any better?? as I was originally going for an extra INON for smaller ceitter's
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Posted 14 July 2012 - 01:27 AM

The Subsee are indeed far superior lens but I'm unclear as to whether they'd suit a compact lens as I think they are designed for use with SLR
macro lens like the 100/105mm. I'm just getting to the stage now with my SLR rig to add the Subsee now that I have a 105mm. BTW the lens I
used to use was the UCL165 AD, I put the wrong code above but have now corrected.

When I began using manual settings, which was actually spurred by the use of the UCL's, I pretty much always shot at f8 with my Fuji E900 when
using the inon UCLs to get some DOF and have more of the subject/detail in focus. It certainly can be tricky but thats half the fun.

Some images I took using the UCLs

From memory the more you zoom the more distortion you get? and when you use them stacked the distortion increases and DOF gets even thinner.

Cheers,
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#5 Neopreneninja

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 02:58 PM

Thanks again Jim!

Great shoots! And good advice....Still think I'll give the +10 subsee a go on my P&S rig.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:10 AM

Look forward to seeing your results!

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