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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:38 PM
Have been told about a site: http://www.paya.com who offer such services and take a 20% cut. Haven't checked them out yet but will be doing so this morning.
Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:35 AM
Anyway, given we're testing the water with a standard vimeo account, the Paya site simply works in tandem with the account on the vimeo platform, means we're limited to uploading just ten clips a day. If the client wants to look at accellerating a little he will have to spring for a Vimeo Pro account but at first glance it all looks relatively straightforward. Food for thought for the active shooters out there: https://www.paya.com/seller/2102
Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:39 PM
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:26 AM
Admittedly I've not looked too deeply at Paya, but is marketing 4k footage with low res proxy's the best approach? Wouldn't watermarked high res (at least 1080) versions be more effective, especially as anyone looking to buy is unlikely to be limited by bandwidth these days?
Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:25 PM
If you look at most stock agent sites, Oceanfootage and Mammoth for example you will not find the main archives in 1080p from their 2k and 4k stock. It is still a matter of bandwidth and clients not wanting even watermarked stock at that rez 'out there'. The other limiting factor is platform space. Paya works by feeding through a Vimeo account, as this is a simple trial I am still on a standard account but even with the Pro account the max space one has is 50Gb. Sounds a lot but 50Gb worth of 1080p clips is not a lot of clips, especially when we're talking a base stock currently occupying numerous Terrabytes worth of hard drive space.
The feedback I have thus far received from producers and directors from broadcast and production houses also seems favorable.
Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:32 AM
That surprises me to be honest. I would have thought that if they were going to commit to purchasing 4k footage that they would have wanted to see something a bit higher resolution first, or is the plan to physically send them higher res files via YouSendIt, Dropbox etc once you have an expression of interest?
I do agree that 50GB on Vimeo is probably not enough storage space. My current stock library of around 1500 clips is in ProRes and PhotoJPEG and comes in around 500GB. Still maybe as H264 proxies it could be workable....I obviously hadn't put much thought into this aspect of marketing 4k footage!
Edited by SimonSpear, 29 December 2012 - 07:33 AM.
Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:22 PM
The clips on the paya platform are simply reference files, as with all stock houses. This also explains why the clip lengths may be off in the actual as opposed to the pricing structure descriptions etc. It's simply a reference listing that states "This is the stock, I have it in these lengths etc and can deliver it in all resolutions up to 4k under a plethora of licenses".
People want to see manageable, playing clips to get an idea. Even when editing RED One footage very few people will use the actual 4k master or even 1080p proxy for that matter. Depending on their computer set up they will use one of the proxies, including the 720p for speed. EDL build and then out source to a render farm, at least that is how some of the people I've thus far worked with have structured their workflow with this footage.
In my limited experience with this the broadcast and production industries one sells stock to work at a very different level than many imagine. This may come as a surprise to many but their end products are pretty well polished.
Edited by CamDiver, 29 December 2012 - 04:23 PM.