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#21 oskar

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 12:16 AM

It would be interesting to try the 9-18 behind the 3,5 dome. I would be happy it it was possible to optimize fore the wide end and just use that, skipping zoom. Providing that part of the soft corners are caused by lens nodal point being off the dome's optical center.

As i mentioned: i've been suggested 2 20mm extensions + the 4.33" dome should work with the 9-18. That would be interesting to get a second opinion on.

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EDIT:   

 

A measurement of the nodal point shift of the 9-18 (and other lenses) can be found here:

 

http://olypedia.de/N...punkte_E_System

 

or

 

http://forum.fourthi...odal-points.pdf

 

 

 

The nodal variation is  6mm between the ends of the  zoom, is that excessive?

 

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Edited by oskar, 05 February 2014 - 12:59 AM.


#22 coroander

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:35 PM

Nauticam lists using the 3.5" semi-dome with a 20mm extension as an alternative to using the 4.33 dome.

I strongly suspect that better results would be achieved with the 12mm using the 3.5" and no extension but with the +5 diopter.

 

Definitely try a diopter on the 9-18mm. I'd be strong included to try diopters on this lens behind any of the ports, including the recommended 4" semi-dome.

Behind the 3.5" semi-dome, did you use an extension? A 30mm or a 20mm or even 2x 20mm extensions would seem to be reasonable with this lens behind the 3.5" semi-dome.



#23 coroander

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:41 PM

I'd be more inclined to try the 9-18mm behind the 4.33" dome with one 20mm (or maybe a 30mm if one was available, i'd think 2x 20mm would be too much). But you'll almost certainly need (or want) a diopter. And it may be the case, like with the 12mm that a strong diopter (e.g. +5) is better than just a small (e.g. +2) correction. In part this is because diopters are less effective at shorter focal lengths. But guessing is little substitute for testing :-)

 

I should add to this, that the 4" semi-dome that's designed for the 9-18mm is going to be the best port for the lens. However, it may still be significantly better with a +x diopter on the lens.


Edited by coroander, 06 February 2014 - 11:54 PM.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 10:53 PM

I recently came back from a diving trip in Soccoro, and tried for the first time the EM5 with the 12mm f2.0 under the 4.33'' dome port.

I didn't have any strobes (next thing I will buy for sure), and shooted only using ambient light.

 

I'm still a novice in underwater photography and did some beginner mistakes ...

For example I let the camera in P mode : most of the time it picked an aperture of f2.0 making the depth of field too shallow and the corners very soft.

I should have brought a magic filter as well, especially if shooting in ambient light and for videos.

 

Fortunately I was able to correct the blue color using a simple white balance on the RAW file in Aperture, and did my best to correct the videos in Final Cut.

 

Anyway I'm quite happy with the results !

 

video :

 

iso 200 f2.5 1/125

 

1921243_10201407755536783_803506622_o.jp

 

iso 200 f2.5 1/125

 

1911929_10201407754856766_1768877706_o.j

 

iso 200 f2.0 1/60

 

1669719_10201407756136798_1099628857_o.j

 

iso 200 f2.2 1/100

 

1417550_10201407756536808_1874770380_o.j

 

iso200 f3.5 1/250

 

1602178_10201407756616810_1659592672_o.j

 

iso200 f3.2 1/200

 

1926301_10201407758616860_872637401_o.jp

 

iso200 f3.5 1/200

 

1795391_10201407758416855_446788449_o.jp

 

iso200 f4 1/200

 

1836905_10201407759176874_1374717015_o.j

 

iso200 f2.8 1/125

 

1889003_10201407759336878_1834335546_o.j

 

iso200 f2 1/60

 

1800002_10201407759696887_1977956523_o.j


Edited by kraft2000, 13 February 2014 - 09:48 AM.


#25 oskar

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:55 AM

Nice,could you add the details for those please, are all those f2.0? 

 

On the large-animal photos you don't notice any corner softness for natural reasons, but on close focus it is quite marked

 

 

I recently came back from a diving trip in Soccoro, and tried for the first time the EM5 with the 12mm f2.0 under the 4.33'' dome port.

I didn't have any strobes (next thing I will buy for sure), and shooted only using ambient light.

 

I'm still a novice in underwater photography and did some beginner mistakes ...

For example I let the camera in P mode : most of the time it picked an aperture of f2.0 making the depth of field too shallow and the corners very soft.

I should have brought a magic filter as well, especially if shooting in ambient light and for videos.

 

Fortunately I was able to correct the blue color using a simple white balance on the RAW file in Aperture, and did my best to correct the videos in Final Cut.

 

Anyway I'm quite happy with the results !

 

video :

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:49 AM

Just added the infos. Yes most of the time the photos are in f2.0



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:49 AM

Great pics! The corners on the 12mm are very soft at f/2.0 behind the 4.33" dome (even at distance). You can use f/8 and get better results, but just buy a $30 B+W 46mm NL5, +5 close-up lens and stick it on the front of the 12mm when you are underwater and the corners will be very sharp even at f/2.0. You won't be able to shoot above water with this setup except at very close distances.


Edited by coroander, 13 February 2014 - 08:07 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 08:04 PM

Over-and-unders with the Panasonic 8mm FE behind the Nauticam 4.33" dome:

  • Use manual focus *
  • Pre-focus on something about 50-60cm (1.5-2 ft) away from the front of the dome in the air (like your knee or a fin)
  • Use f/11
  • Take the shot
  • If you are shooting something underwater that is very close, then you can drop the in-air pre-focus down to 35-40cm (1.1-1.3 ft) from the front of the dome and use f/13.
  • In-air pre-focus distances greater than 60cm (2 ft) from the front of the dome have no use.

If you instead focus on something in the water, nothing above water will be in focus unless it's almost touching the dome. And if you focus on something at any distance from the camera above water, nothing underwater will be in focus.

 

* you need to have your camera configured to separate focus from the shutter ( http://wetpixel.com/...showtopic=48625 ), we still use autofocus to focus, but with the camera in manual focus mode and using the back lever on the Nauticam housing to trigger focus.


Edited by coroander, 14 February 2014 - 11:09 AM.


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 05:16 AM

Hi everyone...

 

Need some expert advise on the use of Nauticam 6" dome port designed for the Panasonic 7-14 mm with an Olympus 9-18 mm.  I have read there is no vignetting indicating that there should be no issues, does anyone know of corner sharpness issue of using this larger dome with the 9-18mm lens?

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Regards, Vagabond







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