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#1 diggy

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:49 AM

Hi,

 

Has anyone had a chance to use the newly launched Super Macro Converter Lens on a cropped CMOS sensor camera such as a 7D ? 

 

http://www.nauticam....duct.asp?id=287

 

 

The website only talks about results with a FF sensor...as below:

 

Stunning Magnification
When combined with a full frame camera and a 100mm or 105mm macro lens, the device converts the optical system to provide a maximum of 2.3X magnification factor.  In other words, a subject area of 15.6mm X 10.4mm will fill the whole frame of a 36mm X 24mm sensor.

 

Thanks for any info on this

 

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:40 AM

Yes, I have. I have used it on both Full Frame (my Nikon D4) and on cropped (my Nikon D7100). 

 

Here are some shots (including showing the addition of the Multiplier): 

 

SMC_FB.jpg

 

And comparison with the Subsee +5 on the D7100. 

 

SMC_TEST2.jpg

 

Be aware that this a very powerful lens, especially with the crop factor of the camera - and you will find far more subjects suited to less powerful (but still very powerful dioptres) like the Subsee +5 and +10.

 

I am planning a more detailed write up on this lens when I have time.

 

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:00 AM

I also did a few tests:

 

In this first one the video camera is a similar crop to a 7D.

 

The images in this comparison were on a 5Dmk3 with a 1.4 so you can get a similar crop on your 7D:  http://nad-lembeh.co...-vs-mpe-65.html

 

Tomorrow i'm hoping to get the TC on the crop for crazy macro :)


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:28 AM

Thanks Alex and Scuba Si. I am relieved now. Alex i do have stackable +3 and +5 Wet Diopters with an o ring between the two to get a vacuum and more enlargement, BUT looking at this new SMC was tempted. I may jump in and get one.

 

Thanks again guys. Look forward to your writeup Alex. Though i wonder why Nauticam does not put these details on their website.

 

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Edited by diggy, 11 December 2013 - 09:43 AM.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 06:00 PM

... Though i wonder why Nauticam does not put these details on their website.

 

When it comes to the impact on magnification by the new diopters it doesn't matter if it is full frame or crop. So if the combination with 100mm macro gives a 2.3x magnification factor the same will apply on the 7D. The 7d does give you the extra 1.6x "crop magnification" or "1.6x loss of field-of-view", depending on how you look at it.

 

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 10:12 PM

seems promissing,...but if more powerfull than the subsee + 10, might not be able to use it with 150 sigma...what i'm currious about is it say on the Nauticam web site than you can use it with the 60 AFS ? do you think it can give good result ?


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 03:44 AM

Sigma 150mm will work well with it since MFD is longer then 100(105)mm lens, I guess.

I'm thinking about get sigma 180mm after testing SMC w/ multiplier in lembeh.

60mm will work but working distance will shorter then 100(105)mm lens.

 

FYI.

Simple magnification comparison between Nauticam SMC vs SubSee +10 & +5.

http://ejlabs.net/na...-smc-vs-subsee/


Edited by escape, 13 December 2013 - 03:55 AM.


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:12 AM

Holy shit, Simon. That is soooo awesome. 

 

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I also did a few tests:

 

In this first one the video camera is a similar crop to a 7D.

 

The images in this comparison were on a 5Dmk3 with a 1.4 so you can get a similar crop on your 7D:  http://nad-lembeh.co...-vs-mpe-65.html

 

Tomorrow i'm hoping to get the TC on the crop for crazy macro :)

 


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Posted 15 December 2013 - 07:31 AM

Hi

 

Does any one know whether the SMC can be used on the new Reefnet (Subsee) adaptor for Subal port?

 

Thanks! 


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 05:26 AM

Just wonder if this SMC is compatible with any of Canon Powershot G or S serial point-and-shoot camera?



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:13 AM

Let's lay this to rest before we have an entire thread about SMC compatibility!

 

The SMC will work with pretty well any camera, as long as the housing has a 67mm thread to fit it to. Subsee diopters have a 67mm thread too, so the SMC will work with the Subsee (and any other) adapter or port with this this thread size.

 

In the case of compact cameras, it is a conversion lens, so the results will depend somewhat on the lens that is fitted to the camera. You may also need to zoom the lens in to eliminate vignetting. It will work however.

 

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 06:03 PM

Do diopters actually work well for compacts? Many can already focus to very short distance, as short as 1cm from the G16 apparently. With their small sensors they also use correspondingly short physical focal lengths to achieve desired "equivalent" focal lengths, which normally means diopters are not very effective.

 

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:32 PM

The SMC is not really a diopter. Technically it is a conversion lens, and has its own magnification properties.

This is also true of the Subsee to my knowledge.

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:51 AM

The SMC do NOT fit the new Subsee adaptor for Subal port - I just tried it out today.

 

The new Subsee adaptor use a clamp with o-ring mechanism instead of screw threads, so there's no way to screw in the SMC.

 

And because the SMC do not have a straight cylindrical shape at the receptacle end, it cannot be secured by the clamp mechanism of the Subsee adaptor. It simply doesn't stay in.

 

I'm trying to find out more from Nauticam HK about this issue, will come back if there's any update.


Edited by Tim S, 20 December 2013 - 08:53 AM.

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 10:22 PM

OK Taken the plunge and purchased the SMC, although i am told its not shipping yet. Thanks all for the input. Once i receive this and get to use it will post some results.

 

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 03:54 AM

OK Taken the plunge and purchased the SMC, although i am told its not shipping yet. Thanks all for the input. Once i receive this and get to use it will post some results.

 

Cheers 

 

Maybe a bit of good news. They are shipping. I picked mine up from Reef Photo on Dec 19th. Unfortunately, all I can do is hold it and look at it, as I've sold my rig and am waiting for the new EM1 housing to come in. But it does look nice. :)

 

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 08:31 AM

 

Maybe a bit of good news. They are shipping. I picked mine up from Reef Photo on Dec 19th. Unfortunately, all I can do is hold it and look at it, as I've sold my rig and am waiting for the new EM1 housing to come in. But it does look nice. :)

 

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Thats Great.. Thanks BOB ! Have got mine from Mozaik  or housingcamera.com  Will check with them right away. 


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:26 AM

Will the multiplier actually be a product? I see no mention of it anywhere. Could be a rival for the Canon 65 

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 03:30 AM

My understanding is that the Multiplier is currently a work in progress. Those that are out there are prototypes.

 

As soon as they are truly available, it will be on the Wetpixel front page :)

 

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