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CCL

Member Since 17 May 2009
Offline Last Active Mar 03 2012 03:50 AM
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In Topic: Canon 60D or 7D?

03 March 2012 - 03:49 AM

I have been looking at the Canon 60D and 7D, but after some deliberation still can't make up my mind.



I am in the same situation but also considering m43 on top of Canon SLR (I am a 7D user on land).

Sorry to add some more confusion but the 600D + Sea & Sea housing might also be an option to consider. Cheaper, works with fibre optic so if you have flashes like INON D2000/S2000 - my case- you can keep them at least to start with, and photos with 7D/60D/600D would be virtually identical.

And the 600D is smaller and lighter when travelling.

Chris

In Topic: Olympus OMD E-M5

28 February 2012 - 09:10 PM

The very definition of recreational diving is that it is no decompression. If you add deco stops you are doing tech diving. Besides, while CMAS is the major organization in some European countries, I'd say that a combination of PADI and strictly technical organizations is more common.



Tom, you wrote that "The very definition of recreational diving is that it is no decompression". And this definition is by whom? By PADI, NAUI and SSI, yes, by CMAS, no. Even CMAS 2* do deco dives FYI (down to 40m).

This is my very point: different places, different concepts! And in Europe recreational diving is down to 60m with deco. It is different in the US and in many other places but maybe you can open up a little bit and understand that from a European point of view not making the housing of the E-M5 capable of 60m is a missed opportunity.

And if you want to talk about divers with PADI + TEC trainings to stay strictly in a US environment then it is the same anyway: there are more and more persons going for TEC courses if I can trust what I see (more and more training agencies and more and more dive shops proposing PADI + TEC) so it means that more and more divers are getting qualifications to go beyond 45m and therefore will regret that the Oly housing stops at 45m and will buy from someone else.

In Topic: Sony NEX-5N housings

26 February 2012 - 09:12 PM

guess what, people have been complaining about the 10bar website for a long time now..

You can try http://www.10kphoto.com/
It's a shop in Hong Kong. I used to ask question to 10Bar and they referred me to 10Kphoto. Their website is better and (sometime) they reply to questions!

otherwise I found the 10Bar housings of the E-PL3 and E-P3 referenced on http://www.aditech-uw.com/ well before they appeared on 10Bar or 10Kphoto websites!


Chris

In Topic: Olympus OMD E-M5

26 February 2012 - 09:05 PM

[quote name='Phil Rudin' date='Feb 27 2012, 12:22 AM' post='302843']
Phil,

I was simply reacting to your definition of recreational diver (you mentioned specifically that recreational diving stops at 40m) as I found it not applicable to Europe where a lot of divers are CMAS and for CMAS recreational diving oes to 60m. It does not imply that diving is different in Europe or better, it is just a fact.

And for sure if you have been diving in the Mediterranean you could see that they dive deeper than in most PADI dive shops: a bigger percentage of divers go for CMAS 3* in Europe versus divers going for TEC courses I believe. Try to dive around Marseille next time you are in France :lol:

I am not specialized in structure and material but I have a reasonable understanding of it and I don't think that it would take much to go from 45m to 60m for a housing. It is a pity that Oly did not go for it. They give up a share of the market that would have been potentially theirs.

But for sure at the end of the day Oly marketing can decide whatever they want. They have been proven right a few times, and wrong a few times too! I hope that the E-M5 will prove them right this time as they badly need it and I like them!

Chris

In Topic: Olympus OMD E-M5

25 February 2012 - 06:41 PM

the recreational dive limit of 40 meters. Several of us have dived the Pen housings past 50 meters without problems. For tech divers I think Olympus will leave the market to others who will build more robust (and more expensive) housings for the E-M5 camera.

Phil Rudin


As you probably know already CMAS and PADI have somewhat different conceptions of diving...
40m is the limit for recreational divers according to PADI, NAUI and SSI, but not for CMAS. if you are CMAS 3* you can dive down to 60m with deco stops and this is very useful (in Europe among other places) as there are many deep wrecks (in the Mediterranean).
So your explanation is valid in your context but not everywhere. 60m would make a lot of sense from my point of view and there are a lot of divers in Europe willing to pay extra (well, if this extra remains reasonable) to get housings certified to 60m. So it is a pity that Oly did not go back to the specs they used to have for their SLRs. After all, the E-M5 can be seen in many ways as the replacement of the E4xx, E5xx and E6xx...