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#391059 IS IT WORTH IT? GH5s - No Stabilization

Posted by adamtaylor on 09 January 2018 - 09:31 AM

I agree with almost everything everyone is saying.
The lack of IBIS is a major bummer for me, wasn't expecting them to remove that. But it seems its not due to the sensor size or aspect - it seems the target audience for this camera where screaming for the removal of IBIS, as it was ruining in-car, on-gimbal shots - so Panasonic listened.
Pajjen raised a valid point for deep / dark ambient shooting where a clean high ISO would be really useful and where lights wouldn't reach.
If the visibility is right, I really enjoy videoing wreck exteriors, where even super powerful lights wouldn't reach, so potentially having a super high iso - and clean would be cool.
Will find out when the body arrives.

I am also looking forward to any deep & dark dive footage. Deep wreck exteriors would be similar low-light conditions to what I am trying to shoot, and I find the GH5 sorely lacking.

Off-camera lighting helps (filming a diver from a distance) but the dark areas have terrible grain at higher ISO

Still on the fence regarding GH5s



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#390408 Nauticam focus gear for Oly 60mm and Nauticam 12-50 port?

Posted by adamtaylor on 19 December 2017 - 08:39 AM

Thanks for the comments. Mostly for something really small that moves ever so slowly...

Example Costasiella usagi's eye. The AF works. but not knowing which specific part i want precisely. esspecially when we trying to shoot shallow DOF.Yes. that's the reason.Yes. But rocking ur camera front and back doesn't magnify the subject in LCD to confirms which specific part in focus.

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My solution for my old EM5 mk1 was to program the two Function buttons;

1) was to switch to manual focus once autofocus got it close.

2) was for viewfinder zoom to help confirm fine details while rocking camera or turning focus dial.

My GH5 has a pinpoint focus option where it zoom in so you can confirn prior to pulling trigger.

There are many different ways to look at fine-tuning focus. I guess it depends on personal preferemce, and if you have the focus gear. How 'complex' the subject or it's surroundings, and even water clarity / fresh water mixing are usually the determining factors for me when using the 60mm. If there is alot of plankton or silt in the water, or the subject is surrounded by comlex growth autofocus alone doesnt cut it.

Good luck


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#390204 Underwater Monitor for Panasonic GH5

Posted by adamtaylor on 10 December 2017 - 04:28 PM

As I will occasionally use the monitor topside I have opted for SmallHD 502 (so I can send up a surface feed in the future).

Ordered the housing and just waiting to see if there are any Black Friday / Cyber Monday deals for the monitor.

Will comment after I have tried it out.



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Finally getting my new addition in the water once the Marina closes tonight.


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#389616 GH5 4k 4:2:2 @ 60p recorder monitor

Posted by adamtaylor on 22 November 2017 - 09:25 AM

As we know 4:2:2 is limited to 30p but with the new recorder from Atamos we can record 4:2:2 at 60p ProRes!

The only problem is I can not find any housing for the recorder.

My option is a Canon 1DX Mark II at 3 times the cost to get into camera and housing along with a difficult to use codec out of camera increases my work flow difficulties.

Recorders should become much more popular as the storage options for video footage are limited. If you count how many 128gb SD cards would be needed for long underwater footage a recorded becomes much less expensive and has so many extras that you get at a decent price.

I'd like to find some manufacturer that is going to support the inferno. This thing has been out since March 2017 and we are bound to have many mire cameras coming down the pike at 4k 60p this year, so there is going to be a demand for these housings. 8f6884de7e3e344f5e848ffffa28ee9f.jpgc912fbed218724206ac238f24c49aa12.jpg

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I recently researched monitors for my GH 5. While the Ninja Inferno was my first thought by the time I factored in the cost of housing and mounting hardware I couldn't justify the price for what you gain over GH5 internal recoding.

Perhaps I will revise this opinion in the future and upgrade to Inferno in Nauticam for the reasona you mention. But for now have opted for a Small HD monitor.

Apparently the Nauticam housing for the Shogun also works for the Inferno




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#389574 Underwater Monitor for Panasonic GH5

Posted by adamtaylor on 21 November 2017 - 08:29 AM

So what's the conclusion? The dive and see 5 inch or the small HD 5 inch? Is the colors really not reliable as I read with the dive and see?
And how much problems does the small HD mini hdmi cable give u underwater?
I actually like the features of the small HD more but having usable cables is priority nr1

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As I will occasionally use the monitor topside I have opted for SmallHD 502 (so I can send up a surface feed in the future).

Ordered the housing and just waiting to see if there are any Black Friday / Cyber Monday deals for the monitor.

Will comment after I have tried it out.



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#388479 Took the GH5 to Komodo

Posted by adamtaylor on 16 October 2017 - 06:27 PM

Thanks Adam. I'm still learning. Way more complicated than the Sony and awkward underwater! But the image quality is really good as you know! I'm looking forward to being more capable with the modern tech. I've been doing a lot of practice dives in the puget sound and will eventually post something now that Komodo is out the door ;^) 
I've decided AWB works just fine with my solas and now only custom white balance for ambient light. Previously I was using auto ISO but ended up with too much grain. So I keep that at 800-1200. The fewer things to twiddle underwater the better!

How are you liking the GH5?

Love my GH5

Agree about the grain on Auto ISO. Our dark waters can push ISO too high.

Still learning to edit but enjoying the process and the camera.

Eill need to try Auto WB a bit as I usually use Manual. I Have found that when I manual WB while shooting wide angle with lights things can be a bit off.

Probably asking too much of the camera but if for example I WB on a white plumose anemone 10 feet away (still getting a little bit of articificial light) and then later pan past another, closer white plumose in the foreground it can be purpleish...

That being said decent screenshots can be pulled, and overall performance is night and day compared to my old Olympus EM5



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#388465 Took the GH5 to Komodo

Posted by adamtaylor on 16 October 2017 - 07:12 AM

Back in July I took a trip to Komodo with a virtually brand new GH5 Nauticam setup. I shot either the 7-14 Olympus pro fisheye for wide angle and the Olympus 12-50 for everything else. I recorded 4k60p 8bit and output at 1080p. I like the flexibility of being able to punch into the 4k footage. Although my 10 year old Mac Pro was feeling the pain of the large files. I relied heavily on proxy media when cutting.
I just recently switched to this camera from a Sony CX550 camcorder. So, the techniques and all the buttons were really new to me. I used 2 sola 3000s for lighting and a sola 500 for spot.
On each dive I'd manually white balance for ambient and the solas with a grey card. This worked pretty well and I like I could store the values. Although, I'd sometimes forget which white balance setting I had selected--ambient or solas.
Generally I'm pleased with the results, but learned a lot through making mistakes!
I edited in FCPX. Comments and critiques are very welcome. Oh, and I used a Phantom 4 for the drone footage.

Very nice

I see you have made a gkod transition to the new camera

How are you enjoying it in local waters?



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#388218 4K to 1080 Pros & How To

Posted by adamtaylor on 07 October 2017 - 10:18 AM

Reading this thread encouraged me to try editing a 1080 video from 4K footage.


This was a learn as I go experiment, so I cannot really comment on how things SHOULD be done, simply what I did.


Imported the 4K footage into a 1080p timeline in Premiere Pro. I really enjoyed the flexibility of having x2 the area to work with for framing, crop, zoom and motion. Will definitely change the way I frame some shots in the future if I want to do more of this.


Another thing I noticed is a need for an external monitor. The tiny viewfinder was hard to confirm focus in macro, especially with the housing on a tripod tight to the bottom. The Nauticam CMC2 was also great, but the focal plane is VERY narrow.


Gear was Panasonic GH5, Olypmus 12-50mm lens in Nauticam Housing + Nauticam CMC2. Lights are Archon W41VP


Any comments & suggestions appreciated








#384821 Panasonic LUMIX GH5 for underwater video

Posted by adamtaylor on 07 June 2017 - 06:41 PM

For those interested I posted a couple links to footage from my first dive with GH5 under Editing, Post Production etc.




Constructive criticism would be welcome as I am new to Underwater Video






#384820 Panasonic GH5 first dive

Posted by adamtaylor on 07 June 2017 - 06:29 PM

Hello all,


On both the Mirrorless and Video Gear threads there has been much speculation and desire for information on how the GH5 performs underwater.


I received my Nauticam Housing last week and got the camera in the water for a single dive on Sunday. I used my Olympus 12-40 f2.8 Pro lens in 180mm Nauticam glass dome which I used with my Olympus EM5


Full disclosure I am a rookie at video, and have even less experience editing. I have been shooting stills for 4.5 years and while I enjoyed the EM5 I found it a bit lacking lately with some of my deeper, darker dives doing conservation work on glass sponge reefs. Constructive criticism greatly appreciated.


I am in the process of upgrading both my hard drives and computer system as my old laptop is out of space, and horsepower.


Due to my current computer challenges videos linked below were shot 8 bit 1080p 60fps, and have been run through Windows Movie Maker which converted them to 30fps? (As stated, the technical side is currently beyond me)


No colour grading, exposure or other shifts has been applied. You will note the white plumose anemones are washed out / burnt at times but I really wanted to get a feel for the camera, and judging results on a small camera screen is not that easy. There is some focus hunting, which I honestly think was me hitting AF lock lever trying to re-focus.


Anyway, to keep things simple I shot 1/60, f8, Auto ISO, Manual White Balance and Single Autofocus.


The white balance was remarkably easy, simply hit the thumb lever, then up button to activate viewfinder, point at something white (I used my dry glove, or a white anemone) and hit OK. Perhaps a grey slate would work better? I don't know, this was the first time I have ever performed manual white balance.


Local water conditions can be challenging at times due to river run-off and plankton. This dive had pretty good conditions; decent visibility at depth with suspended particulate and a surprising amount of light considering the top 8 feet was river silt with 2 foot viz, and the next 10+ feet was plankton soup with 5ish foot viz.


Here are a few miscellaneous shots where I tried different scenarios https://youtu.be/ydu2t-w1Vis



Mother octopus grooming eggs (eggs start at 1:06)   https://youtu.be/M7NrIMyTR4o







#384747 Panasonic GH-5 lens selection WWL1 or wide-angle

Posted by adamtaylor on 05 June 2017 - 03:02 PM

Had to use my old camera on Saturday dives as I didnt have a battery for Leak detection system.

But Sunday's five went well.

Need to upgrade my computer before editing 4K and will go through the 1080p 60fps footage in next couple days.

Very impressed with ease of white balance for a rookie like me. 2 octo on eggs was an added bonus

More comments later in week

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#384613 Panasonic GH-5 lens selection WWL1 or wide-angle

Posted by adamtaylor on 01 June 2017 - 09:16 AM

It might be an issue with manufacturing tolerances of either Panasonic or Nauticam. Here is a photo of the Olympus 60mm focus gear contacting the nose on my GH5. I've worn off some GH5 paint attempting to turn the gear.

Picked up my Nauticam GH5 housing yesterday and it appears very well constructed & sturdy.

Have not taken it underwater but did try my existing lenses for fit issues;

Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 Pro in the 180mm glass dome with extension etc appears to work fine.

Olympus 60mm in Nauticam 77mm Macro port for 12-50mm also appears to work fine.

The Olympus 12-50mm with Nauticam macro / zoom gear contraption I used with my EM-5 wont even properly connect to the camera. It will mount, but due to the teeth on the zoom gear and alignment of the 'cage' around the lens it doesn't seat well enough for the camera to even recognize it.

Awaiting further input on the new components for this lens that work with GH5 (cost, availability etc...)

FYI for Canadian purchasers. Panasonic Canada does not list the Panasonic flash specified on the Nauticam website. Unless things change it looks like we will have to order through USA.

Looking forward to testing this weekend in the water.



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#383895 Panasonic GH-5 lens selection WWL1 or wide-angle

Posted by adamtaylor on 08 May 2017 - 05:09 AM

Personally I find the 12-40mm my preferred lens if conditions are reasonable for wide angle. And even when the top 20-30 feet are soupy and it dark down below it can still collect alot of light.

Not super wide, but when you find a reasonably small critter you can zoom in to 40mm and get some close ups, or fish portraits.

I find the 180mm dome a bit bulky, and it really changes the buouyancy characteristcis but if you like over-under shots it works well.

That being said I would prefer something wider....

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#382918 Nauticam dealers now list part 17713 for NA-GH5

Posted by adamtaylor on 07 April 2017 - 12:28 PM

Yeah, I watched that video previously. It performs better, but still kinda flakey. I have a GH5 and am deciding if I'm going to keep or return it. I have just the 60mm lens to test with. Moving from a dedicated video camera to mirrorless is a big change. 

Stephen, if you do keep it and get the GH5 underwater in the Northwest please post comments.

My EM5 struggles with focus at times, especially with the 60mm in waters near Vancouver. Be interested to see how the GH5 compares.

There is alot of fresh water mixing near the surface at many of my regular sites. So I imagine any camera will struggle focusing through changing water densities...

It is a big financial commitment to purchase a GH5 and housing, even if my current lenses and ports are compatable. Seeing some real world results and reviews will be required before I make my decision.



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#370303 Vancouver Aquarium Allegations

Posted by adamtaylor on 09 February 2016 - 11:01 AM

I will have to watch the video to comment on it's content, but have heard LOTS of chatter about it. From what I have heard the 'documentary' is very biased and some information has been used out of context.


Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the specifics can comment?


Having been involved in a number of Citizen Science and Marine Conservation initiatives with the Vancouver Aquarium I have nothing but respect for the individual researchers and the organization for it's efforts in those specific areas.


Before tarring the whole organization with the same brush consider both the source of the video, and the other initiatives the Vancouver Aquarium is part of (science, conservation, education, marine mammal rescue / rehabilitation etc)


I will reserve judgement on the whales in captivity part until I have time to watch the video.


This issue, and discussing support of the organization should be relevant to the Underwater Photography Community as they have a number science initiatives that local underwater photographers can and do contribute towards. Off the top of my head these include; Rockfish Surveys, Annual Lingcod Egg Mass survey, Sea Star Wasting Syndrome, Glass Sponge Reefs etc.


Input from their researchers and support from the organization has helped with numerous conservation issues over the years which are directly relevant to Scuba Divers and Underwater Photographers. Some of these include creation of Rockfish Conservation Areas, reintroduction of Black Rockfish to Howe Sound and Bottom Fishing Closures for Straight of Georgia Glass Sponge Reefs. Aquarium staff are working with other non-profit groups that I am involved with on two other glass sponge reef initiatives;


1) Proposed expansion of Halkett Bay Provincial Park to include glass sponge gardens and glass sponge reef (bioherm) all of which are within recreational scuba depths.


2) Expansion of Bottom Fishing Closures to include ALL known glass sponge reefs in Howe Sound (5 of which occur shallow enough for air diving which is unique in the world).