Knowing this topic has been discussed already I still want to show how I do with my rig since I got recently a storm roller bag, in which I store the housing (Subal for S2 pro), the Subal Dome port for the 12-24 lens, a Nikonos SB-105 Flash and a Sealux Flash housing for Nikon SB-80DX and some accessories. The storm case is supposed as a carry-on. All my camera gear goes into a small Tamrac photobag. The Tamrac photobag can be attached onto the handle of the storm rollerbag and is also for carry-on. The Subal port for the 70-180 microzoom goes in a small pellicase, which goes into my divebag (to be checked) together with the arms for the flashguns and the other dive gear.
I have not yet travelled like this but will go to the red sea soon. In earlier trips I used another big Tamrac photobag in which I stuffed everything into as carry-on, but with a heavy weigtht of around 30 kg I almost broke my shoulders! So this way with the wheels on I should be better of assuming that the airline does not require me to check it.
Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
BTW, I got so many useful and interesting hints from this forum that without it I would have been lost in setting up the gear. Thank you all!

Juerg

I'm not experienced with traveling with a housed SLR (yet), but like you I've been getting lots of hints from previous threads about travel setup.

My solution has been to purchase a Lowepro dryzone 200 for the camera gear (to keep the non-waterproof stuff dry) and a separate Lowepro Nature Trekker for housing/ports/strobe. This is more aimed at local travel rather than airline travel in my case. It seems like a good setup to me, but I haven't field tested it yet.

BTW, I've travelled extensively with the Nature Trekker in the past as carry-on, and although it's slightly too big for this purpose technically, I haven't been stopped from taking it onboard a plane yet.

The problem is the rules vary so much between airlines. Nearly all the flights to the Red Sea from the UK are charter flights and these are very strict on luggage allowance. Hand luggage is limited to 5kg and this is strictly enforced.
I have been travelling for a number of years with my housings in the hold. So long as they are well protected in a rigid box, with a padded lining, I have never hgad a problem. Except of course last year when the UK baggage handlers forgot to load my camera case on the plane when going to Egypt. Quite a pain when you are joining a liveaboard!
Alex

they were originally way too large in terms of file size (obviously there is a limitation on 75 kb for file attachment, which I just learned now by doing...

packe to go as carry-on (assuming they let me go like that, otherwise I would have to check the storm case also...

That looks like a lot of carry-on to me. Advantage of the nature trekker is I just carry it nochalantly over my shoulder, pretending that it doesn't weigh 15kg!

Nice rig, BTW.

In general the IATA rules apply: maximum 55 x 40 x 20 cm.

But maximum weight is not prescribed by IATA so the airlines limit this by their own as Alex mentioned.
But if you enter a small and fully booked aircraft (canadair jet for example) to get to the hub where your long range flight departs, you might have to hand over your hand luggage to the loaders within the "delivered at aircraft procedure" for cargo compartment loading :?

My hint: Avoid charter, fly first class

That does look like an awfully big case to carry on, especially on full, small planes. I've also found that soft bags attract less attention as carryons than do hard cases.

I highly doubt that you'll get that on the plane as a carry on. I've placed my Subal in a Lowepro Phototrekker AW pack with 2 strobes, Canon 10D, 15mm FE, 28-105 & 16-35L lens. The arms and clamps go in checked baggage. I also carried a laptop with me in a Case Logic neoprene case.

It's fairly routine to see gate agents stop people with roller bags for check in but don't stop those with soft bags.

stu

That looks exactly like my carry on, except my soft bag is a padded back pack.

I don't expect having any problems carrying it on planes, but then again, the only place I really go is Cozumel.

Hi Guys,

I am traveling to Dominica to dive there two weeks starting Saturday. Now it is just a 90 minutes hop on a small plane from St. Croix where I live. Being a cheapie girl (this personality trait often develops after after you own and maintain a sailboat on an island for a while)and practical I refuse to purchase an expensive storm case when there are far more creative and less expensive solutions at hand.

This is what I did to make a custom molded bumpproof casing for my houring and strobes and I am mighty proud of my creation:

I got a cheap plastic box from K mart (about $7)m "Homez" brand.

I got a few cans of "great stuff" triple expanding insulating foam from the hardware store and one big trashbag.

I squirted a bunch of "great stuff" into the bottom of the plastic case, covered it with cutout part of plastic bag and then pushed in my housing to mold the foam. Then I covered the housing with another piece of plastic, squited some ore to make a "top layer", covered that, pushed on my strobe and ports, covered with plastic and made a "top" layer of foam.

Now I have a fanstastic custom moded case for my gear with the additional benefit of look not screaming "expensive gear here - please steal".

Of course this coud also be done in a plastic suitcase rather than a kmart box for a more expensive solution.

If anyone decides to try this, be aware of this:

- Make a test mold in a cardboard box first so you get the idea of how the foam acts. YOu donot want it stuck to your gear while wet.

- Do not squirt the foam inside of plastic bags. This was my original idea but it did not work.The foam will not cure and it will not expand enough unless it gets some air. It needs to be a bit open at the sides to work. Of course you can try covering the bottom of the box with plastic, just leave some ventilation room between sides and top.

Hi Buddy,

How do you like your Sealux flash housing?

PS, Marjo, that's a great idea!

Another good one I just saw was Norbert Wu's cooler idea. He even has a special u-bar mounted so that you can secure/lock the lid:

http://64.91.229.42/~norbwu/cooler_for_pac...king/index.html

Cheers
James

Marjo,

That's a great idea, and probably more effective than using the pick and pluck foam that you get with a pelican case. I may have to try that out!
Tom

I bought a Lowepro Trekker Pro to carry all my gear in. The Trekker pro is the same as the Nature Trekker except that it has two detachable side pouches that I don't use. This way I can carry:

Ikelite Housing
flat port
D70 in housing (shouldn't do this but I treat it gingerly)
pair of DS125s with 2 manual controllers
60mm 12-24mm 18-70mm and 50mm lenses
SB800 speedlite
Canon Digital elf backup setup with housing and S&S lenses

The seperate backpack has my reg books and magazines and sometimes the arm if I'm paranoid about not getting my luggage.

It weighs a ton. I haven't been stopped yet and as a climber/backpacker I'm used to heavy loads.

If I were single I would get a Lowepro soft roller instead and carry the camera and lenses in a Micro Trekker AW that fits under the seat. I like having everything on my back though because I travel with my wife and two small children. So I need all the free arms I can get and rolling something extra or carrying two backpacks is not an option.

very interesting and also some funny, especially the one with the cooler! But this one is certainly not for a carry-on. So far I have used the quite big Tamrac 614 for camera and housing and flash guns etc. and never had a problem as carry-on (1 trip to Maldives, 1 trip to Thailand/Burma and 1 to Egypt) besides the heavy weight of more than 20 kg I bet. Not that the airlines did not let me take it as carry on but my shoulders and neck were probably 3 days out of order...
On the other hand the Stormcase M2500 is the smallest roller bag with detachable handles and is supposed as carry-on with its exterior dimension of 55x36x22 cm (which goes almost in line with the IATA rules as Jolly mentioned 55x40x20 --> I hope they will not make any troubles for only 2 cm... and BTW $130 for it was not that expensive). So what should be the remaining concern is just the weight. Otherwise I just check it. The camera bag anyway will have to be carried through the gate by my wife (assuming and hoping she doesn't want to bring a bag with her in addition...! )

James, yes I like the Sealux housing for the SB80DX (which I also use much topside) except it is kind of heavy. That's why I use these yellow buoyancy to balance.

Tshepherd: Funny you should write that, because the idea with the insulating foam came to me while I was in "foam hell" trying to pick and pluck... I was thinking, why the heck can't I just SQUIRT this stuff in... and then the next day a engineer cooworker of mine mentioned the "great stuff" brand...

Also, here's another $ saver: Closed cell foam is a bit expensive, at least here on the islands. K-mart sells flat floating "noodles" in the toy department. About 1/2 thick and 8 inches wide, 6 feet long, very easy to cut. Great for turning regular backpack into laptop/photogear bag or for other padding jobs.

I think you should post a photo of your creation.

It may be exactly what buddy needs (esp. the Kmart box version) as he can't have much money left over after buying that very slick Subal rig!

I regularly swear at people with the amount of carry on shown in the posting above while on American Airlines flights... but you would not get the storm case on to the American Eagle puddle-jumpers I take when departing my home airport, and you'd probably have trouble on a regional jet.

The DryZone 200 that Rob mentions above does not fit the puddle-jumper overhead bins, I always valet-check it at the door. It (the DZ-200) is actually a bit thicker when fully loaded than the NatureTrekker line. It fits most overhead bins in larger jets in the US with no problem, but Rob, you're not going to get it into the cabin of a QANTAS international flight (I speak with bitter experience here, the people at LAX are brutal).

I was unable to get the DZ-200 to fit into the overhead bins on the TAME flight from Quito to the Galapagos, while another member of the group (hauling a Canon 500mm f4 :shock: ) was able to comfortably fit his NatureTrekker AW in the same overheads. The storm case you have up there would fit...

My housing(s) have never travelled in the cabin with me... and so far no major SNAFUS.

I recently travelled through Auckland International Airport and before reaching security all hand luggage was weighed. Any over 7kg was rejected. This was irrespective of airline.


My 12kg carry-on was lightened by placing heavy items into my coat and trousers.

My tip is to always travel in Combat trousers and a coat with generous pockets for this purpose. My combats can take a DS-125 in each lower leg pocket.

As soon as I had walked around the corner I put everything back in the bag. I have had similar problems at check-in in the UK where my carry-on has been weighed. No objection has ever been made to loading my pockets though !

PS Diving at the Poor Knights was fantastic and far exceeded my expectations.

Hey Marjo -

I'm looking at the Great Stuff web site and they have many different products. Which is the one you used? The Big Gap Filler is the one listed as "triple expanding", the others only say "minimal expanding".

thanks,
Marty.

Hi Martys,

Just back from wild gorgeous green steep wet Dominica...

I experimented with a few products. I have tossed the cans, but I do remeber that the Great Stuff was of the triple expanding kind. I do belive it was the space filler. You want the one with the most expansion, otherwise you end up using many cans. 3-4 cans did the job for me.

I also had success with another brand called "Space Invaders", which was some great green wellexpanding foam. However it took a while to dry.

I am planning on making an impoved version of my case once I get unpacked and settled back to reality. Planning on taking and posting some pix ... and recording exact wording on foam cans for the benefit of future experiments

In two seperate travel experiences, on the same model plane, with the same Dryzone 100, with the same contents, I had different results.

Flying from SJU to BON, it fit with no problem. Flying from SJU to Dominica, apparently on an older model of the same plane, it wasn't even close. I ended up having to crowbar it under the seat in front of me...

I just bought a Tenba D17-C, expecting it to be carryon size, and it is way too big. I also got to see a Tamrac Cyber Pack 8 this weekend, and I thinki ti is too big too, but it is very nice...

In SJU you don't want to have any bag look good/new/expensive. That airport makes more stuff disappear to never be seen again or, if very lucky, only to be seen days or weeks later, than any other airport. Have to go thru there pertty much every time I leave or return home on St. Croix. Luckily there is a direct flight on Coastal Airs 9 seat Cessna from STX to Dominica. 44 lbs restriction, but you can pay $1 extra per additional lbs and carry all your gear + some more without hassle. This is btw why I prefer little hoppers to AA... you might have to sit between some boxes with plantains and chicken, but who cares as long as you know you can take your gear!

Off to indonesia in a few days. We have a wieght restriction of 50kilos on the Manado -Soring leg.
I'm packing 8 strobes 2 housings 6 camera bodies. Thank got my wife is not a photograper. I pack the subal in ahard housing case with 6 lock down points. This trip I put a housing in a zero haliburtion alum case. I pack dive junk wet suits fins regs the like in an army duffle bag. i have another hard square box for spare stuff like cloths- small -ports masks-chargers. I loas all lenes and bodies in a lowepro photo trecker and wear it aboard. it can get to 50 pounds easy. I pack other heavy items into a small pelican case for hand carry-batteries dive computer(orca edge) Some here have no idea what this is?? You have to have been diving a while to know that one. Anyway the 150 rolls of film in 4 ziplocks goes there also. Ya film its what photos used to come from and still do. Yes I'm packing a D100 for topside shots. 26 days aboard a liveaboard and 220 total #'s of checked luggage. This is the lightest I have ever been. Mark

Mark,

I too am going through the packing issue's. It looks like we are heading to the same place. I fly into Sorong May 7 - 7.15am

Am packing for 6 weeks in the field.

1 x Titan & full ports 1 x subal D2X & full ports 1 x Gates HD housing & monitor 1 x greenforce squid HID lights 1 LMI Pro hid lights 6 strobes 3 mod lights lot's ot ULCS arms etc.

Chargers and batteries for everything

2 x D100 bodies 2 x D2X bodies 1 x Z1 HDV Camera , assortment of lenses & filter's

1 laptop & 2 external drives

assorted spares

Have managed to get it all into 2 x pelican 1624 & a pretty full back pack.

Business class through to Surabaya so weight should be an issue until then.

I'll be the guy PLEADING at the baggage counter - see you there !

Peter

Peter, I've got equipment envy ....2 D2X's....that's not fair

Karl

Karl,

I 'll share the insurance & service cost's with you ............. No problems.

Peter

Just a quick update.

Total weight 106 kg's.

Excess baggage charge Cairns - Denpasar $1200 AUD ( about $900 USD ). Lets see how we go with the Indonesian Island hop.

Karl, still want to share.

to be continued................

Just curious - how does that compare to the actual flight price ?

I figure that a big guy weighs around 120kg + 20kg baggage allowance + 10kg carry-on.

So that's 150kg budgeted per person.

Are excess baggage charges in proportion to the cost of the flight ?

Peter -- we managed to NOT PAY A CENT from Bali -> Makassar -> Sorong, and back. I went with steve drogin, and he is a master negotiator. Be nice, and tell them you've never had to pay in the past, and that you are a photographer on assignment, etc. etc. They may take you to see someone in a back room, but if you just refuse to pay the full amount, they'll certainly discount or waive the fee.

of course, steve was the one doing the negotiating.

Hey, guys. Does anyone out there have recommendations for very-light, hardside luggage with wheels? No fancy features -- just tough, light, rolling, and capability for locking with zipties.

Want something relatively big so I can pack Seacam housing, dome, strobes + clothing and wetsuits in it, for trips where heavy luggage is not an option...

I bought a Benetton suitcase for less than $200 about a year ago. It's big enough to accomodate 2 seacam housing, 4 strobes, 4 ports and extensions, and more arms, clamps, sync cords and other bits than I want to list here.

It's also apparently strong enough to withstand baggage handlers, as it already has a fair number of trips under its belt.

And best of all, it weighs about 10lbs empty, including the custom foam inserts. Oh, and I lock it with a numbered lock, 2 keys, zip ties, and a belt

Eric, I have two for you:

Our scooters come with a case from Seahorse case. I know, I know, I'd never heard of them either! For the size of the case it's quite lightweight (75% of equivalent sized Storm case), and pretty robust (I'd say 90% of a Storm case). The scooters use the Hurricane SE-1220 case, which is completely watertight and no metal.

Although I haven't used it for diving, SKB makes a series of Military Retractable Handle Cases that I've used for some very delecate, hideously expensive equipment and the baggage gorillas haven't been able to break anything yet. The sides are pretty thin, and the foam takes on more of the load, but these are fully ATA compliant and weigh half of an equivalent sized Storm case. They are not quite watertight and the aluminum might corrode if left on deck, though. This would have been my first choice for our scooters if they didn't have a stock box.

All the best, James

Hi Eric,
bought today at Adorama a Kata's CCC-10 bag for video system. It's is soft and pack all of my rig (Aquatica housing, Dome Port, Flat port, extensions, EOS5D body, 5 lenses, 2 strobes). I loved this bag, mainly because I can carrier with me into the flights.

Regards
Fabio

Those side pockets on the Trekker Pro can be very useful - each is perfect to take a standard bottle of Bacardi Oro Rum (or equivalent). I also sometimes load all my batteries into one of them to take the weight out of the checked bags.

Frogfish (Robert Delfs)

My new secret weapon is a Samsonite F'lite. It was designed to be light. It weights 13 pounds, semihard case, has great wheels and doesn't look like I have thousands of dollars of equipment in it. I weigh 160 pounds and can sit on this suitcase. It does sag about 1 inch but will hold my weight.

It happens to have approximately the same dimension as my Pelican 1650 which weighs 29 pounds empty. This is a big difference. The Pelican 1650 padding (as well as the lid compartments, will fit this suitcase. I also purchased a backpackers sleeping pad which is extra light and semicompressed and cut it up for extra padding.

I've bought stuff from this place a couple times, and they seem to be reputable:

http://www.luggagebase.com/btc/search.aspx...046002500000000

Fantastic, Will. That's the same suitcase I was looking at, and having you confirm that Pelican 1650 padding fits in it will pretty much cement my decision to give this a try.

How much does the Pelican 1650 padded dividers and lid compartment weigh? I have to now decide between padded dividers and using tupperware and other stuff...

I was thinking about the Lowepro Road Runner. It has some padded sections for lenses and other components, a backpack strap, and other tricks. That Samsonite looks nice, however, and I don;t think the Lowepro is a hard case.

http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Rolling_Ca...W_Patented.aspx

Even that is to much weigh for me, with the restrictions of 8-10 Kg, the 13 pound take too much from it.
My choice is a super light suitcase I found, its have no name, its very cheap and most important it's weight is less the 5 Kg. Of course its not give too much protections to the equipment but since it’s with me all the time It's more then enough for me.
Actually for the next time I'm thinking on using a very simple side bag that its originally purpose was as cooler, its weight is few pounds and its can carry most of my equipment.

Has anyone here flown TACA recently? I've not flown on them since 2002 and they now have a 22-lb. carry-on limit which is very restrictive if you don't want to check gear through and leave it at the mercy of TSA or other security personnel to mishandle. In the past I've carried all my gear in a Pelican 1650, but even that is out of the question now if trying to avoid surcharges for bags over 50 lbs. That case so easily holds more than 20 lbs. of equipment that the case itself is the problem, at 29 lbs. Will's use of the Samsonite case sounds like an idea of merit.

But, for now, I can pack a fully functional set of photo gear into my LowePro CompuTrekker Plus AW and get that down to 35 lbs. by carrying my notebook PC separately, as I've discussed at http://ambress.com/D200/DX200/carryon.htm. That is within the 40 lb. limits of some carriers but obviously still well over TACA's puny 22 lb. limit.

The idea of wearing lots of pockets and doing the equipment shuffle between some possible weighing-in point and the security screening is also clever. For now though, I'll just plan on handling the bag as if it's not too heavy, and just be casual about everything....I don't recall ever having a carry-on weighed and maybe I can escape that this time around too.

Daryl

The Samsonite F'Lite works well and protected my equipment. I packed 2 Ikelite dslr housings, 3 DS 125 plus 2 spare batteries, arms and clamps for 3 rigs, an 8 inch dome port and 2 macro ports, 9 battery chargers, an international 3 plug powerstrip, tools, and 3 synch cords. plus an abundance of extra padding. I didn't even have to squish anything. The total weight was still 60 pounds but this is better than 80.

I don't know how much the padded dividers weigh. I would guess about 3 pounds as they are pretty light weight foam padding with lightweight nylon covering. The specs on the Pelican site shows that the pluck foam weighs about 6 pounds. (the pluck foam is really not suited for underwater photogs as it disintegrates with use and wastes space). The dividers use a denser foam but much less square inches of it.

I also reused my Pelican 1650 lid divider, which helped me clear space in my carryon Tenba packpack which carries 2 dslr bodies, 3 lenses, laptop, critical chargers, iPod, diopter set, etc.

I'll be using this setup again in my future travels.

Used this Samsonite FlyLite 31" on my La PaZ trip.

My complete Subal D2X rig with 9" dome, FP, 3 DS 125 strobes with 2 batteries and various accessories.

Weight was 48 lbs (50 lb limit)

I used the foam from a pelican 1650

A hard case with an O ring and 3 latches.

I used a Pelican 1510 as my carry on. It has wheels and can fit easily in most over heads or under the seat.

I carried my lap top in this Otter case.

I carried it as my personnal item.


It is their medium size laptop case. It will hold a 15" lap top. This is with a 12" G4.

I had no problem with the pelican as my carry on and the Otter case as my personal item. The limit for AA to Cabo was 2 50 lbs checked bags and that is what I carried.

Having returned a week ago from Roatan, I'm happy to report that my Lowepro CompuTrekker AW backpack served me well in carrying my new Sea & Sea DX-D200/Nikon D200 rig on the trip. Concerned about the 22-lb. limit for carry-ons that was posted on TACA's website, I bought the Samsonite F'lite suitcase to substitute for my Pelican 1650, heeding the advice in this thread. I thought I'd use the F'lite suitcase as my main gear carrier, but I just didn't feel too trusting that TSA wouldn't inspect and mishandle the precious cargo within. Instead, the F'lite case became my regular suitcase for clothing, toilietries, and the durable photo goods (strobe arms, clamps, batteries, charger, etc.), and other items, the bulk of those actually packed inside a 48-can Igloo soft-sided cooler, separate from the clothing.

Why the cooler? Well, firstly, Anthony's Key Resort has day trips to Barbaret and Cayos Cochinos, either of which if taken, would've found me wanting some sort of protection for an extra port and lens, and perhaps my Nikon D70, and other items. I could've used my backpack but that was really more than I needed and I also preferred not getting it wet, which would likely happen amidst all the wet divers and gear onboard. The cooler was a cheap and lightweight solution which I deliberately bought in a size large enough to accommodate my two Inon Z-240 stropes and DX-D200 housing w/o arms, that alone right around 22 lbs. This facilitated an in-airport repack if needed, pulling the loaded cooler from the F'lite case and replacing it with my Lowepro backpack. I could empty the items from the cooler that were packed in smaller pouches, laying them loose in the suitcase as space allowed, then put the camera housing & strobes into the cooler and that would be my carry-on. Of course, I could've kept the backpack as my carry-on and moved items from it also, but I felt it might give the lenses and other photo gear better protection in the suitcase than would the cooler.

But, having never recalled TACA weighing carry-ons and counting on that to remain true, such was the case. My backpack was about 34 lbs. as I'd finally packed it (similar to what I show here but with D70 body and Epson P2000 added, all arms/clamps/batteries moved to the F'lite case) and with my Dell laptop carried as my separate personal item. As for using the cooler, the low season at AKR didn't enough guests for a day trip, so I never needed the cooler. So, I guess the trip was largely a practice exercise for how I'd transport all my gear. Meanwhile, TSA left my F'lite case alone but did dump my dive bag for an inspection, repacking it rather carelessly. Fortunately most items in the bag were tolerant of such neglectful handling.

Daryl

I intend to carry on my 9in Sea and Sea Dome when I travel and have heard that some use a tupperware like cake dish to protect their dome port. I have searched many shopping malls and such, but have not come across an ideal container for this task. Can anyone offer advice on a specic product that they use?


Many thanks!
John

Hello everyone. Currently looking at a better/lighter way to transport my rig.

How do you lock the Samsonite F'lite with Zip Ties?

The locks aren't TSA locks, right?

Thanks,

Joel
Newmediasoup, LLC

I got one of these for mine, TSA locking strap: http://www.samsonitecompanystores.com/weba...=C35&pcode=

Will a pelican 1560 work as a carry on, or is it too big?

I have used a 1560 as a carry on in over ten dive trips, but it is definitely over the legal size limit. Qantas charged me extra baggage fees, made me check it in since they will only allow 15 kg as a carry on. Other than that, only one other time I did check it in when it would not fit into the overhead compartment of a smaller USAir jet, since it will not fit under any planes seat (to wide and high). I just purchased a Lowepro roller 3 that I will use as a check in for my big Subal D2Xs housing. It looks like a regular soft side suitcase and does not say good stuff inside like a Pelican case does. 45 pounds for a 1560 and another 45 pounds for a backpack with body, lens and laptop is getting to be just to much to lug around as a carry on.

What are people doing to pack these monster 8" dome ports in their carryon's? Pics if you have them please...

Thanks,
JP

i found a small rubbermaid bucket and cut it down to the right height for an almost perfect fit to my 8 inch aquatica dome with shade

also found a plastic container lid that provides protection for the macro port and fits under the port cover

you need accurate dimensions or the ports and go to a store or two that has a good selection of plastic houseware stuff