A Conversation With… MARTIN EDGE
Welcome to the second installment in this (hopefully) monthly series, you can read A Conversation With Todd Mintz and rand McMeins here. This month I speak to Martin Edge and unusually the format is more typical interview, than the conversation style I will usually use for this series.
This month I am at Martin Edge’s house on the south coast of England. Martin is considered the master of teaching underwater photography who has helped countless photographers not just grasp the basics, but excel all the way to the top. His book, The Underwater Photographer, published by Focal Press, is widely regarded as THE reference for underwater photographers combining simple to follow explanations, real world advice and a detailed coverage of the subject. With the brand new, completely re-written 4th Edition being released imminently, I was keen to quiz Martin about the new book, but I was also interested in trying to understand what has made him such a successful teacher and communicator. I also wanted to chat about his personal underwater photography, which does not always receive the attention it deserves, and his love of innovative techniques.
More than 30 years have passed since Martin Edge could be considered a newbie, but after speaking to him, I believe his ability as a teacher of underwater photography is intrinsically linked with the challenges of his formative photo years. Born in the landlocked English county of Staffordshire, “with no interest in diving” and from a family “devoid of anyone artistic, either musicians or painters”, Martin joined the police force aged 19, in 1974. In 1976, he married Sylvia, and in 1977 they moved, with work, to Dorset on the south coast. It was here he got his first taste of diving, when a fellow police officer suggested he gave it a go. “These were the days before widespread diving certification, we just went in and I loved it. I was hooked and Sylv and I joined a local dive club.”
One wouldn’t normally expect the British police force to be a place to nurture artistic talents, but more than once it played a key role in Martin’s photographic development. “My partner, at the time, in the Vice Squad was an avid [land] photographer and he persuaded me to hire a Nikonos III for my first ‘tropical’ trip to the Spanish island of Minorca. I knew nothing of f-stops or shutter speeds, but he taught me the basics. The day before we left, I called into Peter Rowlands’ place, Ocean Optics, which at the time was near Battersea power station in London. He hired me an Oceanic 2000 flashgun.”
“When we got to Minorca the compressor was broken, so we spent the week snorkelling. Peter had suggested settings of F8 at 1/60th. I got my slides developed and they all came out. I was off. I continued to build up the kit. I got an extension tube from Steve Frink, when he was in Key Largo. 1982 - I went in and bought it from the man himself. It was the first and only time I have met him [Steve wrote the foreword for the 4th Edition]. I bought a Subawider [wide angle supplementary lens] for the Nikonos from Peter. Then an Oceanic 2003 strobe and borrowed £500 from my Mum to buy a secondhand 15mm.”
Martin describes these early acquisitions with an enthusiasm we can all relate to. There is a similar excitement as he recalls his first major competition success at the internationally renowned Brighton Underwater Film Festival (UK). We all remember that treasured moment when we first see our name up there with the names we’ve long admired. “I entered a picture of shrimp in an anemone at Brighton in 1983 and there it was in the winners list flanked by pictures taken by Flip Schulke and Jacques Cousteau. That was a wow moment.”
Martin credits much of his success to the vibrant British underwater photography scene at the beginning of the 1980s and the generosity of others with their knowledge. He recalls with great affection, and detail considering it was more than 25 years ago, how these photographers gave him their time and took a genuine interest in his photography. For years now, he has been the one giving encouragement and advice, but the fact that he still values dearly the 1:1 feedback he received is certainly part of what makes him such a successful teacher.
“My heroes, at the time, were Pete Rowlands, his mate Steve Burchill, Pete Scoones and Mike Valentine. Although Mike Valentine rubbed up a few of the pros the wrong way, he was always really encouraging with new photographers [Valentine is now an underwater cameraman for movies, he was behind the housing for the likes of Star Wars, Bond, Bourne, Indiana Jones etc]. He was at Brighton ‘83 presenting one of his AVs [audio-visual slide show] and came up and asked me if I had anything in the competition and I told him I was highly commended. I said, “You don’t want to see this!” He said. “I do.” And I remember he walked the whole length of the dome at Brighton with me to see my picture. And he was really enthusiastic. You don’t forget something like that.”
“BSoUP [the British Society of Underwater Photographers] was very important in my development. I discovered BSoUP in 1983 and drove up to meetings each month. At my first meeting, Brian Pitkin welcomed me and Georgette [Douwma] won the monthly Focus On competition. I won BSoUP’s Best Beginner in 1985.”
Martin rapidly rose to prominence on the international stage in the second half of the 1980s as a result of innovative six projector AVs, which he put together with AV expert Jim Eldridge. It was a poignant time because his daughter, Katie, was born with cerebral palsy and Martin recalls how working on the AVs helped pass the evenings between hospital visits. Martin and Jim premiered “Sea Of Dreams” based on photos from the Red Sea at BSoUP, and the BSoUP newsletter recalls that uniquely it received a “spontaneous standing ovation” from the audience of experienced underwater photographers.
“Sea Of Dreams was followed up with “Imaginations” set in the Maldives, which we launched at Brighton in 1987, following Stan Waterman on the stage. I remember Kurt Amsler being very encouraging. We were the first to do it with underwater pictures, so we got invited to film festivals across Europe. At a Festival in Antwerp, Jim and I turned up to the Gala Dinner in our dickey bows and found we were completely overdressed. The only other people who were similarly dressed were Hans and Lotte Hass, so the four of us spent a delightful evening together. In fact we were almost inseparable from that moment on at the event.”
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His awarding winning breakthrough images in 1980s were the result of hard graft, combining his own ideas with the knowledge interrogated from the top shooters of the day. Police detective training has its uses! “Every month Bob [Wrobel, Martin’s long time UW photo buddy] and I were asking questions at BSoUP. We’d work out ahead of time a list of questions for different photographers and I used to say to Bob ‘Go and ask such and such this, and ask it like this’, while I talked to someone else. I got to talk to Doubilet, Howard Hall, Pete Rowlands, Georgette [Douwma], Mike Valentine, Scoonsey [Peter Scoones], Linda Pitkin. I wanted to know how they had got their best shots. The Police Force taught me how to interview people and get them talking! I wasn’t bothered about the settings, I was using the same settings as the best photographers, I wanted to know about the motivation and the mind set that brought the really exceptional images.”
“I remember asking Pete Scoones in detail about the lighting in one of his famous shots and his response was ‘I’ve never been asked that question before.’ And he answered it. He knew exactly what I wanted to know. Rowlands did too.” Martin’s approach was a bit like reverse engineering, he figured out recipes on how to create beautiful images. He taught himself and his approach proved perfect for explaining to others how to do it, too.
The watershed in his development came on an early dive club trip to Cornwall. Despite the expense and long journey, Martin chose to skip the organised diving and snorkel to photograph a jellyfish he had spotted in a tide pool. “It was an important decision. It was a photo that I felt I created, made happen, rather than had just taken on a dive. That was the moment the penny really dropped. The photo did well in everything I entered it. It has been in all my books, it was the moment I realised what went into great photos and that underwater photography had nothing to do with diving.”
So to the 4th Edition of The Underwater Photographer. There is no doubt that digital underwater photography has matured a great deal in the last few years, but having poured so much into the very popular 3rd Edition, the man himself was less sure. “When I wrote the 3rd Edition, I felt that’s it there is nothing else to say. Although the book was pitched to cover both film and digital, the focus was pretty much all digital. So when I was asked to do a 4th Edition, which was about a year ago, before agreeing I asked myself has enough changed? And after a couple of weeks’ research I convinced myself it had. In actual fact, so much new material has come up that my initial writing schedule of 3 months has ballooned to a year. I have even given up my golf for it.”
The new book is due out in early November and as he tells me about it, it is clear that Martin is chomping at the bit to see what people make of it. “We cover all the big topics, but it is also packed full of little tips and tricks that I do all the time, almost sub-consciously, that I have never written or seen anyone else mention. I actually carried a pen and piece of paper with me twenty-four-seven for the last year, and every time something came into my head about underwater photography I wrote it down. I am sure that everything I know, can think of and do is in this bloody book! And it is going to be a big book.”
The 4th Edition promises to be encyclopaedic in its coverage, but one of the reasons for the popularity of Martin’s books is that he tells readers what he thinks. Sometimes endlessly listing the all options available can leave the reader confused. Martin will give you the options and then what he recommends. “In the introduction I say that my intention is to produce the most comprehensive book on underwater photography. However, I also make the point that this is underwater photography through the eyes, mind and philosophy of Martin Edge. And you’ve got to make sure you seek out other opinions too, because other people will agree and disagree on all manner of things.”
That said, Martin has asked a number of underwater photographers to contribute chapters and the opinions of others are also woven into the main text. He reminds me that I am not the only one with a Dictaphone, “You know when I taped you in the car, when we were chatting? I used all that!”
As a photographer, Martin is driven by innovation, yet his own photography is often overlooked artistically, as his shots are usually dissected for teaching purposes. “When people like us are trying to push the boundaries, you are talking about a chinks of light. You’re not going to come up with a whole technique that has never been done. We have to find the little thing, that was perhaps passed over before and exploit it. For example, recently I have been playing with higher ISOs and shooting right at the end of dusk. Technically over exposing, so the water is light instead of dark. I am playing with wishy-washy textures in the water, which gives the ocean a unique blurred look. If that makes sense? I’m talking really dark, ISO 1600 at 1/8th second. I think it’s exciting. The key to finding images that exploit the high ISO capability of the latest cameras is to think ‘where is it dark?’ and shoot there. At these exposure my torch has the power of a HMI light.”
And his closing advice for innovation, “Go and play, set dives aside to be wild, free and silly. So much of what I have found that works has come from mad ideas!” The underwater photography world awaits the 4th Edition of The Underwater Photographer, by Martin Edge, with baited breath.
More info:
Edge Underwater Photography
Next month Alex enjoys a conversation with Spanish Fotosub photographers David Barrio, Carlos Villoch, Carlos Suarez and Arturo Boyra.
Thanks, Alex and Martin, for a fascinating article.
“Go and play, set dives aside to be wild, free and silly”
Amen.
This was a great read Alex, but way too short. :-)
Appreciate your work on these.
Rand
Thanks for this profile Alex, it was excellent. Really nice to have this background. Martin Edge was one of my main inspirations early on, back in the film days before there was a Wetpixel. The early editions of The Underwater Photographer were the best resource out there, and really provided the foundation for my entry into the craft. He has definitely made an indelible contribution through his teaching, and innovative photography.
I can’t wait for the new edition!
All the very best,
Sterling
Thank you, Alex, for shedding new light on Martin. Of course, the wait for the new book will be even tougher now!
Cheers,
Mark
Gem of a person, great 3rd edition, waiting to see how to possibly top it. Nice article.
Well done
Izzy