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I think I remember hearing that some people think they aren't as good as an UW strobe for main lighting. Also I don't think the slave sensor/wireless control would function under water. However, none of this may be true. I am interested in opinions on just using 2 sb-800s as main lighting though if you could keep TTL function.
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While I was cruising the Subal port selection page, most of the wide angles from Canon and Sigma can fit under the Fisheye Port. So I can use a fisheye, wide prime, wide zooms, and a few others. All I need to change is extension rings and diopters. I think that Canons fisheye is supposed to be a top notch performer. Most people complain about the 14mm ($1800) and the 16-35 ($1300) to me, paying almost 2 grand for a lens and not having good performance isn't that useful. But I also think that somepeoples expectations are a little high for such a wide lens. Alex, that flourescence article is super interesting.
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The close focus is 7.9" for anyone who may be interested. The Subal site says a +2 diopter and EXR40 to work properly. Andrew
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It's too bad about the Canon wide angle lenses, I know they are not great on the edges. Maybe someone can figure out how to put Zeiss and Leica lenses in a UW housing and operate the apeture. The more I think about using the fisheye UW, I think that having too much in the frame could be a problem. I know working on land I don't like superwide lenses as it makes it very difficult to frame the picture properly. Too much unwanted stuff gets in the frame. I think I'll probably get the 20 1.8 and the fisheye Subal dome, that way if I want to use the 15 fish, I'll have the port already. I do want to use a prime due to the fact that I want the better image quality and loose a little bit of the versitility. Thanks for all the advice
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I'll check out the fisheye, do you think a 20mm prime would be wide enough on full frame? I know I'm getting the 1DS2 in the spring, its my motivation to get into grad school! Plus I will be using this lens a lot above water and I don't know if I want to deal with the fisheye perspective all the time.
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I will shortly be getting a Subal housing and setup for my 1D2 (and in a few months a 1DS2). I have macro covered, but I need some suggestions on wide angle options. I don't know what lenses are wide enough for UW use. I was thinking either the Sigma 20 1.8 or the Canon 24 1.4 for primes and possibly the 16-35 2.8. I have heard serious conflicting reports on the quaility of the zoom, so that's my last choice. I know there is a huge difference in price, but lets not worry about that. Also if there is anything else that I'm missing let me know. Andrew
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I should probably have put some sort of joking text in with that one. It was a long day. The correct term would also be Loricariidae.
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It looks like a Plecostomas species.
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I guess with all these glowing Seacam reviews I'd be doing myself a disservice not to check it out. Now that I'm in Fl, I guess I'll be taking a trip down to Key Largo to check them out at Frink's place. With the S180 does anyone think there might be a problem with the viewfinder being a little to dim? I might upgrade to the 16-35, mostly for the reason that this lens seems to take the same port at the superwide lenses, while the 17-40 does not. That's what I remember, but I'm on dial-up for a few days here and I don't have hours to go check on my facts again. I think I'll be going with the Inon strobes, mostly for the smaller size. Thanks a lot for the help.
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i'll definitely consider the 24 1.4, or maybe the Sigma 14 2.8, 20 1.8 after the shock of this purchase goes away. I also don't think that the 24 would be wide enough on the 1D series, but when I get the 1Ds2 I think that would work out a little better. I think I am leaning towards the Subal at the moment. I find it odd that for $5500 the seacam doesn't offer access to all of the buttons on the camera. I also really like the look of the Subal, plus I can more easily afford the Subal plus the magnifying finder. Also for strobes I am thinking dual Inon Z-220F with some Ultralight arms. Is there any reason why you would use a Seacam over a Subal? I understand that they are both basically the pinnacle of housing design, with Seacam being a little higher. The only think I could think of is the felt stuff inside and the moisture alarm (which can be added to Subal). But I really don't think it's worth $900, plus the finder is another $600 over the Subal finder
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does anyone know where to get Subtronic strobes and information?
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thanks a lot for the links, they're super helpful.
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I'm starting to figure out a setup for my 1D2 and eventually a 1Ds2 and I don't know too much about some of the top of the line housings. I am considering either the Subal system or the Seacam system. Has anyone used either one, and what would be the difference in operation between these two systems? I know that the Seacam is a little more expensive, but if its decidedly better I have no problem spending the extra money. The lenses I plan on using are the 100 macro and 17-40. Also if I can use the same port, I am considering the 15mm fisheye. Any experience here? Strobes are something I know little about as well. I have use DS-125s in the past and they were good but not great. I was thinking about Inon strobes, but have no idea what models are highly regarded or any other manufacturers that are good. This is probably the last UW housing setup I will buy for many years with the capabilities of the 1Ds2, so I want to do this right. I am moving to Fl so I will get a lot of use out of this housing and want it to be as good as possible. Thanks so much for answering my many questions.
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flawless condition 60mm macro. lens is in perfect shape, no marks on the body or glass. a 9.5/10. this is a US lens. $300 shipped.
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used for about 20 dives never flooded and the electrical connections are all as good as new. charger is included. $375 shipped.