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Hi Vie -- Dorippe dorsipes does occur in Thailand so that's good possibility. There are a bunch of these carrier crabs and I doubt if they can be reliably identified to species from a photo. Most of the photographed ones are identified as Dorippe frascone or Ethusa but that's because they're the only two carrier crabs in the Gosliner-Behrens-Williams book. Can't help with the urchin, sorry.
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Imran - Our member ATJ is a friend of Rudie Kuiter's. Rudie is an expert who wrote the popular guide to sea horses & pipefish. Why dont't you send ATJ a PM & ask him to forward your images to Rudie? Let us know if you get an reply from Rudie. Good luck -
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Wow, I wouldn't have thought this was anything but a sand and debris encrusted stick. Wonderful camouflage. How did it move?
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UW id book users should always keep in mind that these never have all the species that occur in an area.
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Hi Bruce - Unfortunately we don't have any IP ceph experts here and the tiny stuff is especially hard to id. There's a list of experts on this page - http://www.tolweb.org/onlinecontributors/a...al&sp=19386
Mark Norman wrote the photo guide to cephalopods and Christine Huffard has done a lot of work in the IP so those are two possibilities to contact.
Good luck & let us know if you get a response on this or your other post.
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Hi Nicholas - It's a tunicate. You can find an anatomy diagram here http://webs.lander.edu/rsfox/invertebrates...einascidia.html which will help in figuring out what the various structures are in your image. It may be that this animal is a common one for the Mediterranean but I have very few references for European waters.
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Hi Laz - For tropical Atlantic/caribbean cephalopods contact James Wood who's an expert on the group. You'll find a link for him on the WP staff page. Be sure to let us know what he says.
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James is right. Euapta lappa is the name you'll find in guide books for the Caribbean. There are other similar looking species in the region.
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You're right - tunicates. It's not unusual for these solitary tunicates to have bumps or nodules in the apertures of the their siphons although the ones in your friend's images have the most pronounced ones I've seen. They probably serve to reinforce the aperture when it's closed against predators. Here are a few examples
http://www.guamshellclub.org/images/marine..._061121_001.jpg
http://www.ascidians.com/families/styelida...rpacaptiosa.htm
http://www.ascidians.com/families/ascidiid...idiagemmata.htm
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OMG, that's hysterical! My first thought was that it found Eric's styling gel. Is that cyano on its back or sponge or both? doesn't really matter, all the characters are covered up. Maybe a true crab expert would hazard a guess about genus but I won't.
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It's easy to stump me with something that's not a worm!
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I'm puzzled by it too - looks like tunicate body with a polychaete inside because the branchial basket (used for filtering out food) is so dark. Or maybe it is a polychaete inside?
Nicholas, would you mind sending me a high res file of the entire animal so I can send it to some friends who work with tunicates? My email is lharris[at sign]nhm.org
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FishBase lists 2 species - Eurypegasus draconis and Eurypegasus papillio. The second one is restricted to the Hawaiian islands while the first is very widespread. The distribution listed on FB is "Indo-Pacific: Red Sea and South Africa (Ref. 4264) to Marquesan and Society Islands, north to southern Japan, south to Australia and Lord Howe Island; throughout Micronesia." http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSum...esname=draconis
A 10-foot worm? Wow!
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Could be! The Pseudoceros indicus photos below show violet/purple margins - I have never seen the variant that you linked (above) before. Thank you.Leslie Newman identified all 3 images and she described the species so I guess they're probably right
the original description says either blue or purple spots. It's here: http://mangilao.uog.edu/up/micronesica/abs...man_177-184.pdf
And here's another color variant
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Hi Vie - Welcome to Wetpixel.
I couldn't find an exact match for your animal. Take a look at Pseudoceros indicus http://pick5.pick.uga.edu/mp/20p?res=640&see=I_ML277 - could yours be a light colored variant of this species?
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Isn't it a juvenile file fish? I'll leave it to someone else to provide a real id.
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There are a lot of similar images on the Sea Slug Forum. Apparently nudis can't tell the difference between a fish and the ground or maybe they just don't care! Turned out to be a nice photo op for you tho'
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My friends would laugh so hard if they read that!! Obviously your friend hasn't read some of my recent more stupid posts....
Anyway, I think your animal is an echiuroid (phylum Echiura) which got out of it's burrow. The common name is spoon worm but I haven't got any idea why. The skinny end is the proboscis. It normally lives hidden in a burrow with only the proboscis showing.
http://www.earthlife.net/inverts/echiura.html
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bo...s)_PC301461.JPG
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/Materialien/hupf...h/bonellia.html
http://www.asturnatura.com/especie/bonellia-viridis.html
This video is of a different type of echiuroid but you can see how the body inflates & deflates & twists around
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So much for caution.
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Hi Allison - You have a good point that deserves to be raised.
Lots of species occur throughout wide areas of the Indo-Pacific but are only reported from a few locations because that's all the people writing books or scientific papers know about.
The problem as I see it is the difficulty of making a reliable id from photographs. Lots of things are undescribed or they're described but no one knows what they look like in life, or many different species look similar (like all these 2-spot octopuses with stripes). Another problem is that many web images are mis-identified so if you compare a photo to one on the web you could be misled.
I tend to be conservative & if I have something written by an expert I'll follow that. As it is I use waffle-ly statements like "seems to be", "looks like", "similar to this photo called X" instead of saying "it is speciesX". Not being really knowledgeable about anything but worms also keeps me cautious about ids.
It could certainly be mototi but honestly, as variable as octopus species are, I can't see an external species level difference based on the images. (Of course that could be the result of my own octo-ignorance.) The difference between mototi & siamensis may be internal or something on the underside like the arrangement of suckers. Jeff's photo was given a name by Mark Norman so I trust that id more than another. And did you notice that Jeff's critter also represented a range extension from what's reported in books?
It would be great if Kuiter would confirm the presence of Hippocampus pontohi in PNG. In his description of H pontohi Kuiter did say there was a similar undescribed species in PNG but he didnt' mention how they differed or even if they can be distinguished on external characters. So I'm cautious.
Cheers, Leslie
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Hi Zan --
Sammy De Grave from the Oxford Museum says your shrimp is in the genus Pasiphaea, probably P. silvado.
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Marli's instincts on the shrimp were good. I'm told that it is a Dasycaris and the japanese guide books are incorrect in calling it a hippolytid.
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Thanks Andrew.
Imran, in order to solve this mystery, I think you'll just have to drop everything you're doing to go back & keep diving until you find it again!