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It seems like there have been a lot of videographers in Anilao recently. Here's my contribution. Comments and critiques welcome. Pretty much everything shot with 60mm and CMC-1. Mavic Pro for the drone shots--which I didn't get much of because it was so windy!

Thanks. I've reached out to Dave directly in hopes of resolving this privately. But, may have to take things to another level if he doesn't respond. Thanks. Appreciate it!

I created a video of a trip to Cozumel last year and posted it on youtube. The dive operator I used was Aldora Divers. A month or so later, while I was on Facebook, an advertisement for Aldora was displayed using a screen grab from my video. I reported it immediately as a copyright violation through Facebook and the ad was taken down. However, a friend of mine just got back from Cozumel and informed me they are playing parts of my video in the dive shop. This would mean they have copied the video from youtube to play in their dive shop without permission or compensation for perhaps up to a years time. Anyone have experience extracting compensation from dive shops in Mexico?

I don't think anyone has made a claim about the images being professional. Mine was a screen grab from video and not high resolution. The main issue is the images being used commercially without notice. And apparently the software service has acquiring user permission built into it. It just wasn't used.

I didn't open this weird thread. I'm commenting on it just like you are. The specific web plugin Nauticam used from the bazillion you say exist is a service from foursixty.com which can funnel IG images to a website and emails. Here's what foursixty.com says about rights: "digital rights management. With Foursixty's automated rights management system, you'll be able to request and secure the rights to your customer photos and videos with just a click. And, we’ll monitor content approvals as they come in so you can keep doing your thing." Built into this service is a way to request a secure rights from the customer--the main sticking point with what Nauticam did, using photos without asking. This wasn't implemented, but it sounds like Ryan is going back to the drawing board to implement. Further from the https://foursixty.comToS (relevant text in bold https://foursixty.com/460/terms_conditions): 5. YOUR LIMITED LICENSE OF YOUR USER CONTENT TO FOURSIXTY We do not claim any ownership interest in your User Content, but we do need the right to use your User Content to the extent necessary to operate the Site and provide the Services, now and in the future. Therefore, by posting or distributing User Content to or through the Services, you (a) grant Foursixty and its affiliates and subsidiaries a non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable right to use, display, perform, reproduce, distribute, publish, modify, adapt, translate, and create derivative works from such User Content, in the manner in and for the purposes for which the Services from time to time use such User Content; (b) represent and warrant that (i) you own and control all of the rights to the User Content that you post or otherwise distribute, or you otherwise have the lawful right to post and distribute that User Content, to or through the Services; and (ii) the use and posting or other transmission of such User Content does not violate these Terms and will not violate any rights of or cause injury to any person or entity. In particular, if you provide User Content from another website, you represent and warrant that you are authorized to do so, and that doing so will not violate the terms of use of that website. If your User Content is intended for the use of other Users, you also grant us and our affiliates and subsidiaries a non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable right to sublicense such User Content to such Users for their use in connection with their use of the Services, as described in Section 6 of these Terms. For clarity, you acknowledge that the Services allow other Users of the Services to post, publish and distribute your User Content in the manner described on the Site, and that by entering into these Terms you expressly permit us to license to them your User Content for that purpose, and you acknowledge that we have no control over their usage of your User Content. These licenses from you are non-exclusive because you have the right to use your User Content elsewhere. They are royalty-free because we are not required to pay you for the use of your User Content on the Services. And they are transferable because we need the right to transfer these licenses to any successor operator of the Services. Our rights to “modify, adapt, translate, and create derivative works from” are necessary because the normal operation of the Services does this to your User Content when it processes it for use in the Services.

"If you have authorized a third-party application..." This is a key point, giving authorization. You said "I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty confident it's something related to Instagram ToS and not nauticam." Then replied with the Twitter ToS.

"It's like embedding a tweet in another platform." Yes, a tweet that you've spent thousands of dollars on equipment and thousands of dollars on travel to fly around the world to get the shot only to have to put next to an add to cart button on the Nauticam website without notice. "I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty confident it's something related to Instagram ToS and not nauticam." Excellent, please point out in the Instagram ToS where this is covered.

Here is my photo appropriated without permission and used to promote the GH5 housing on the Nauticam website. Be careful how you hashtag images from now on. Also notice the "FOURSIXTY" in the bottom right. This is the service nauticam used to access the photo. The ToS from FOURSIXTY says you have to have permission to use the content via their service. So, this is also a violation.

Perhaps, for mistaken reasons, we expected better of Nauticam.

Ryan, I find your response tone deaf. You stated on FB that you are in compliance with IGs ToS in the use of our images. I asked you to point directly to the portion of the ToS where you're in compliance and you didn't respond. I'd still like you to do that now. "We have absolutely no interest in violating any copyright." This is in direct conflict with your actions of implementing technology to take content without permission. "What better association is there than having that image fed into the brand web page?" Compensation for the use of copyrighted material in the promotion of your products. That would be much better. "We are not saving the image on our servers or modifying it in any way." This is immaterial in terms of violating copyrights. You're not even in compliance with the software service you've relied upon to display the copyrighted material on your website from foursixty.com which specifies you must have rights and ownership of the content you distribute through the software. Nonetheless the copyrighted images appear on your website. I'd like you to demonstrate where you'e in compliance with foursixty.com's ToS. "The instagram poster has complete control over the image." And yet the copyrighted images ended up in a curated gallery on nauticams website without permission or notification? Can you not see the contradiction here? "It is clear that instagram posters appreciate the courtesy of a permission request before an image is shared on our branded site..." Glad you learned this. I'd hope a company that sells expensive equipment for underwater photography and videography would actually be more in tune with its customers such that asking permission first was a no-brainer. But, It's better to now possess this knowledge than to continue on without it.

It was a cooperative subject!

I agree. I thought this as well when I first discovered it. I'll contact Nauticam to see if this is expected behavior or if I have a defective cable.

The 501 housing comes with the vacuum valve, so if you have it on your GH5 housing you're set. If you don't have it on the GH5 housing it may balance in time. You'd have to over vacuum the GH5 housing (Nauticam warns against doing this) and hope it's enough to eventually equalize. It's not a fast process, takes a couple minutes, but might work. I have the CMC-1. I didn't think the CMC-2 had enough magnification for the cost. Good luck with your decision!

I should also add about the SmallHD 501 housing is if you have the vacuum ports on both the monitor and camera housings there is a slight complication. Basically if you open one, you'll have to vacuum both of them again as the pressure will be released through the hdmi cable. This is a bit of a pain. It takes just a couple minutes and you don't have to open the other housing, but it may require moving pieces around to reach the vacuum port. So, it's mainly an irritation.

The image flip can be turned off and it's not intrusive. I haven't had it flip on me unless I was tipping the camera to the extreme. How you describe your use of the camera is exactly why I have it set this way. It's really easy to adjust in this orientation. I have the camera's built in screen turned off and I can get to the buttons and dials just fine. Attached are some bad iphone pics to give you an idea. I have the tilt adjust in several positions. It adjusts easily underwater. Positioned behind the camera it's less of a sail in current, but it still creates drag.

Hey Adam, I have the SmallHD501 with the Nauticam housing. Like you I was considering the ninja inferno as the screen costs the same as the SmallHD. However, the housing for the ninja is way more expensive. I also looked at the Diveandsee monitors but didn't like that it was always in the housing as I'd like to use it on land too sometimes. So, I opted for the SmallHD501 and Nauticam housing. The housing does seem to be much bigger than it needs to be for the size of the smallHD screen. It is slightly positive in buoyancy. This is helpful so as not to require floats. There are 5 main buttons that are easy to use with dry gloves on and two buttons on the top. The smallHD is really easy to operate and I've made adjustments to it during dives with no problems. One feature I like a lot is that the smallHD screen will flip its orientation just like a mobile phone does. It also flips the operation of the buttons so you don't have to think about them operating differently when upside down. Previously I had the monitor mounted above the camera, but since the screen flips, I have the monitor mounted behind the camera. This make it easier to see the subject and position the camera correctly. I can get about three dives using 2 batteries in the monitor. However, having the monitor connected to the hdmi port on the GH5 prevents the camera from going to sleep. So, I can only get about 1.75 dives out of the camera battery. So, I usually swap the camera battery after every dive. (I usually do a least an hour on each dive). I mainly use focus assist, exposure peaking and histogram features of the smallHD. It's late now, but I'll post some pictures of the setup tomorrow.

Unfortunately, they did just fly by once. And there were a few people in front of me and their bubbles blocked better shots. But, the rays were suddenly upon us. In the opening drone footage of the video, if you recall the narrow passage between two islands with raging current. That's where we encountered the rays. We were drifting through that narrow passage and the rays came from the opposite direction into the current and passed us. It was really an amazing experience!

Thanks Adam. I'm still learning. Way more complicated than the Sony and awkward underwater! But the image quality is really good as you know! I'm looking forward to being more capable with the modern tech. I've been doing a lot of practice dives in the puget sound and will eventually post something now that Komodo is out the door ;^) I've decided AWB works just fine with my solas and now only custom white balance for ambient light. Previously I was using auto ISO but ended up with too much grain. So I keep that at 800-1200. The fewer things to twiddle underwater the better! How are you liking the GH5?

Back in July I took a trip to Komodo with a virtually brand new GH5 Nauticam setup. I shot either the 8mm Olympus pro fisheye for wide angle and the Olympus 12-50mm for everything else. I recorded 4k60p 8bit and output at 1080p. I like the flexibility of being able to punch into the 4k footage. Although my 10 year old Mac Pro was feeling the pain of the large files. I relied heavily on proxy media when cutting. I just recently switched to this camera from a Sony CX550 camcorder. So, the techniques and all the buttons were really new to me. I really miss the internal flip macro diopter of the L&M Bluefin housing for the CX550. Reaching around to flip the CMC wet diopter into place around the arms on the GH5 setup is a pain comparatively! I was also outfitted with the SmalllHD 501 in a nauticam housing. This allowed me to see much better what I was filming and I could adjust the angle depending upon the shot. The focus and exposure peaking were very helpful. The downside of using the external monitor is it kills the camera battery life as having the HDMI cable connected prevents the GH5 from going into sleep mode. As a result I had to swap out camera batteries after each dive. I could get about 3 dives from the SmallHDs two batteries. I used 2 sola 3000s for lighting and a sola 500 for spot. On each dive I'd manually white balance for ambient and the solas with a grey card. This worked pretty well and I like I could store the values. Although, I'd sometimes forget which white balance setting I had selected--ambient or solas. Generally I'm pleased with the results, but learned a lot through making mistakes! I edited in FCPX. Comments and critiques are very welcome. Oh, and I used a Phantom 4 for the drone footage.

Excellent video, beautiful composition and editing. Liked and subscribed!

Yes, power zooming it.

I've been getting a lot of graininess in video and I suspect it's the auto ISO. I shoot video in manual with 360 shutter angle. I adjust aperture for depth of field and was hoping auto ISO would adjust appropriately for exposure. The graininess could be related to custom white balancing, so I'm going to do another test to make sure that's not the issue. I've been setting a custom white balance and not resetting it as often as I should as depth and ambient light changes. Will let you know.

Learned something new today. Using a knockoff battery with the 12-50mm lens I've determined I can only get 1.25 dives before the battery dies. So, there is a drawback to cheaper brand-x batteries and I'll changed them out after each dive when using the 12-50mm. I think the electronic zoom helps to drain the battery. Also giving up on auto ISO.

Thanks!

A quick clip of an octo eye using the 60mm and CMC-1. There was lots of particulate in the water as you'll see.