Nikon D200 is official

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Yeah!!! The ports for my Light & Motion D100 housing might still have a bright future in front of them.

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I really hope you're right on this one, I'd love to see the Titan D200! I'm reasonably sure they'd redesign the dome port to accomodate the 10.5 lens.

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Dave, Did you also get pricing indications on the new SU-800 unit and the iTTL closeup flash kits??  Not that I'm thinking of housing them, but I am intrigued for topside use. TIA

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The R1C1 Wireless Close-Up Speedlight Kit with the SU-800 will sell for $679.95 and the R1 (same kit less the SU-800) will sell for $429.95

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I dont see how the D200 will be closer in resolution to the 5D than it is to the 20D.

 

My math puts it exactly between the two by pixels. 10.2 is 25% more than 8.2 and 12.8 is 24% more than 10.2.

 

But then the 5D with it's larger pixels should have at least slightly better per pixel sharpness, puting the D200 closer to the 20D when it comes to actual resolving power.

 

But then the 5D should be better at 2x the cost.

 

I think the 5D vs D200 comparison is the same as the 5D vs 20D comparison. In both cases it is clear that the 5D is a superior camera. But is the difference enough to compensate for a price that is 2x or 3x as expensive.

 

The 5D vs D200 debait is much more about price vs performance than it is about performance.

 

And I think that the D200 will be a clear winner when it comes to price vs performance. I know that if the D200 was released at the same time as the 5D, I would have a D200 right now....So I do think that it will cut into 5D sales as much as 20D sales.

[Rocha 0]

Here are two interesting links. A video by CNET that gives us a nice sense of size:

 

http://reviews.cnet.com/Nikon_D200/4505-65...l?tag=cnetfd.sd

 

And the 24 page final PDF in English, with some samples:

 

ftp://ftp.nikon-euro.com/Brochures/XkDB9X...pg_Final_EN.pdf

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Nikon seems to be making a lot of fuss about comparing D200 to 5D and pretty much ignored 20D in their documents that I saw.

Feature wise, I think that it is definitely on par with 5D or better in many respect. Of course the big question is how well the 10.2 mp CCD cropped sensor will compare to 5D full frame sensor.

Personally I think it should be similar to comparing D2X to 1Ds MkII.

I think Nikon did their homework well. If they only aim to compete with 20D, they are in serious trouble, I think.

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I imagine Canon will very shortly (before D200 shipment?) intro a successor to their 20D that offers increased resolution, bigger display and other new features. In fact, they've probably been sitting on this model since the 20D has had no real competition since introduction. Within a year, I expect a FF successor to the 5D that is smaller, faster and cheaper. Still, the D200 looks to be wonderful, albeit late, successor to the D100, and an easy upgrade path for UW D100/D70 shooters.

[james 0]

Bad news for high-speed sync lovers. From Rob Galbraith:

 

"We did learn that, unlike all current and previous CCD-based Nikon digital SLR cameras back to the D1, the shutter in the D200 is fully-responsible for controlling the exposure time. For photographers who rarely use non-dedicated flash units, this won't mean much. For those who shoot sports with Elinchrom or other studio strobes, as we do, this means it won't be possible to cheat the sync speed well above 1/250th with this camera. High-speed flash synchronization is possible only with a compatible Nikon Speedlight."

 

Cheers

James

[kdietz 0]

Rob has never met Ike

 

Karl

[herbko 0]

Rob has never met Ike   

 

Karl

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They can probabaly decode the Nikon link. However, to make it useful, you will need a MUCH bigger strobe than the DS125.

[james 0]

What am I missing here? Rob is saying that the D200 does NOT have an electronic/mechanical shutter like all past Nikon cameras. I don't think Ike can change that...

 

Cheers

James

[Rocha 0]

I think they mean that Ikelite can change their strobes to function in high-speed sync, like the Nikon speedlights do. The secret is making the strobe stay on long enough to iluminate the entire sensor. But that would require more power, and I think that's why Herb said a strobe larger than the DS125 would be necessary.

[james 0]

Ah, interesting.

 

The way Canon does high speed sync is for the strobe to fire a series of pulses as the shutter opening passes over the sensor. I would think that this would be possible with existing strobes, provided the "software" is there.

 

It's not going to be as easy as taping over the hotshoe like you can do w/ the D70...

 

Cheers

James

[kdietz 0]

Luiz, you got my my feeble attempt at humor and an "atta boy" for one of our sponsors....

[james 0]

Sorry Karl, it's been a long day...

 

James

[herbko 0]

Luiz, you got my my feeble attempt at humor and an "atta boy" for one of our sponsors....

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It's not actually impossible. You just have to get use to diving with strobes the size of small jet engines.

[Rocha 0]

It's not actually impossible. You just have to get use to diving with strobes the size of small jet engines.   

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You mean just slightly bigger than my SS200s, right? But seriously, I think I got some pretty good sun bursts even with the limited 1/250 sync speed of the D2x. The problem is knowing how well the D200's CCD will handle sun bursts.

[anthp 0]

No sunbursts and only at 100 ISO, but this is a nice gallery of samples from the D200 in Argentina.

 

Gallery

 

Looks pretty good to me in terms of shadow noise and grain (or lack thereof).

[Rocha 0]

Thanks Anthony,

 

Apparently that link in pbase is down, but Nikon has posted some of those samples on its website here:

 

http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/di...d200/sample.htm

 

Luiz

[climbrox 0]

I'm sooooo tired of my D100!

 

I've almost upgraded to the D2X a couple of times but I think I'll go with the D200 for no other reason than it better fits my budget. However, I want the darn thing as soon as possible! I called B&H to see if I can get on a pre-order list. They're not doing that. Does anyone have a good recommendation on a trustworthy online store that would likely be first in line wth reliable D200 shipments?

[Rocha 0]

Hi David, I think the largest stores are the ones that will receive shipments first (and more cameras). B&H usually sends an e-mail to indicate that an item is in stock, you can do that with them. Alternatively, Adorama and Ritz are taking pre-orders, but I don't know how much they are charging for it (if the total value or something else).

 

Luiz

[climbrox 0]

Thanks. That's sort of what I figured. I guess I'm just being impatient.

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[Rocha 0]

How about considering one of your Wetpixel Sponsor's both Backscatter and us at Underwater Photo-Tech are Nikon Dealer's.

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I didn't know that Dave , I thought you guys sold only housings (and I'm sure many members thought the same). Let's buy from our sponsors everyone! Without their contributions it would be very hard to keep the site running!

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[climbrox 0]

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