james 0 Posted March 22, 2006 The Canon 5D handles sunballs very well. I'm impressed with this camera's performance. Canon 5D w/ 24mm F1.4L Canon 5D with 17-40L Cheers James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herbko 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Beautifully done James! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arnon_Ayal 1 Posted March 22, 2006 Indeed, it impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeVeitch 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Good stuff, how bout the info? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kdietz 0 Posted March 22, 2006 I'm not James , but 1st 1/160 @ f10 2nd 1/125 @ f18 Both taken mid afternoon Karl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex_Mustard 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Having been on the same dives with James, it was clear to me that the 5D was producing better looking sunbursts straight from the camera than my Nikon D2X. The Nikon was more inclined to produce a cyan halo around the sun. The 5D is a very impressive camera and well suited to UW shooting. However now I am home I have had the chance to WB my images I think that much of this difference was due to me not having a RAW converter on my laptop. In fact now I am not sure there is much of a difference between the two cameras. But the most important point is that the days of digital photographers being scared to shoot into the sun seem to be gone with these recent models. Alex p.s. I'll post a D2X example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex_Mustard 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Here is an example from the D2X. Note that this shot shows the whole sunball, unlike James's Lemon Shark shot (which I think is fantastic, BTW). I think it is harder to show the whole sunball, rather than just part of it. Settings were F20 at 1/30th (my strobes weren't working properly so I was not able to use the settings I wanted all week). No photoshop. Just RAW conversion. Alex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randapex 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Great shots, all of them. Sunballs are like snowflakes, no two alike so difficult to compare as each one is unique to itself. But I do like Alex's blues a bit more. Rand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gstroupe 0 Posted March 22, 2006 No photoshop. Just RAW conversion. Alex <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow...very very nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest echeng Posted March 22, 2006 I wanna play, too! I only got to shoot stills for one dive (with Al's D2x/Subal/2 x DS125), but it was during nice, late-afternoon sunlight. Here are two pseudo-sunballs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex_Mustard 0 Posted March 22, 2006 But I do like Alex's blues a bit more. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think the blues in my shots comes from several factors. First I have less underexposure than James. This means my mid blues are lighter but also my sunballs are bigger. It is a compromise. Also I certainly favour bluer blues in my RAW conversion settings. I think that Eric's shots, also with a D2X, show the difference that WB preferences can make in similar conditions. My feeling from seeing James shots is still that the 5D is slightly ahead of the D2X straight from the camera. But perhaps the difference is less after both have been RAW converted. Alex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Guys, I used ACR for the RAW conversions, and didn't tweak the curves at all. I just set white balance on the shark's chin, and that sets the overall color for the shot. ACR is not the best for Canon files. The Canon RAW converter, and then C1 are better. But I don't have the C1 update for the 5D files yet... Cheers James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjames 1 Posted March 27, 2006 The shots look awsome James, was this at Abernathy's in the bahamas? I'm jonesing for the 5d back, but I bought the 12-24 wide angle that is for the smaller sensor before we went to lembeh and my wife will kill me if I buy the new back, new housing AND a new lense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james 0 Posted March 27, 2006 Thanks Corby, yep, these were taken on the Shear Water w/ JASA. There are some more photos in the gallery forum. Cheers James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrej 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Hello, a recent review of the nikon d200 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond200/page22.asp seems to back the dynamic range issue. Canon is slight ahead of Nikon in the hightlight dynamic range, Nikon is better in the shadows. Here´s the comparison: Camera (ISO 100) Shadow range Highlight range Usable range Nikon D200 -5.0 EV 3.2 EV 8.2 EV Canon EOS 5D -4.7 EV 3.5 EV 8.2 EV Nikon D2X -5.5 EV 2.7 EV 8.2 EV Canon EOS 20D -5.1 EV 3.4 EV 8.4 EV You can assume that with advancing technology the highlight range will get better and better untill it surpasses slide film. Heureka abelic.net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herbko 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Hello, a recent review of the nikon d200 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond200/page22.asp seems to back the dynamic range issue. Canon is slight ahead of Nikon in the hightlight dynamic range, Nikon is better in the shadows. Here´s the comparison: Camera (ISO 100) Shadow range Highlight range Usable range Nikon D200 -5.0 EV 3.2 EV 8.2 EV Canon EOS 5D -4.7 EV 3.5 EV 8.2 EV Nikon D2X -5.5 EV 2.7 EV 8.2 EV Canon EOS 20D -5.1 EV 3.4 EV 8.4 EV You can assume that with advancing technology the highlight range will get better and better untill it surpasses slide film. Heureka abelic.net <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dave does a great job on his reviews, but IMHO the dynamic range measurements are not useful. He uses the JPEG output which clips the shadow details and probably some high light details. Raw files have larger range so his measurements does not tell how well a camera can really do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seagrant 4 Posted March 28, 2006 James' lemon is my fav of the bunch by far............... B) For what it is worth.............. C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
