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REEF HOOKS DO YOU USE ONE?

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Hi,

 

From what i can remember Mikey uses the same method as i do, looping the hook through both D-rings on the pull down straps and then back through itself. This is good for 2 reasons, it keeps the center of rotation in the middle of your body, keeping you steadier, and then if you are of a bigger frame like Mike you have a safety line if one breaks! :P:blink:

 

This is the method I have used in the Maldives, Palau, Tahiti, Galapagos and Cocos and most recently the Revellagigedos - They are not very useful in the last 3 places mentioned because of the need to hide in the rocks, but still worth taking as a safety item...

 

Awaiting your response mikey!

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How's the weather in Huddersfield!?!?

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After my first trip to Palau, I made a bridle for my BC. Two small clips and a short length of parachute cord, doubled for strength. Clips from D-ring to D-ring across the chest. Two knots help center the clip of the reef hook but still allows the clip to slide, if needed, to turn sideways. I spent several hours this last weekend digging in my closets looking for it, as I’m headed to Palau in two weeks. I finally found it in my old BC that was replaced last year. I also found a lost Do-Rag and pair of gloves. Woo-Hoo I’m set to go. post-10-1143539874_thumb.jpgpost-10-1143539940_thumb.jpg

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Cool setup.. good thinking!

 

And i like your BCD....

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Thanks Simon, Thanks Bob (had to check both of your website to find your names, LOL. That's one way to get people to see your websites !!!)

 

I love the idea of the bridle. Just need to find out how good I'm going to be with knots !!!!! Which knots do you usually use to secure the rope to the clips? (Back to basics !!!)

 

Sylvie

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Just call him Seaman.. i do...

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Mikey, thats your pet name for me, ssshhhh!

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Thanks Simon, Thanks Bob  (had to check both of your website to find your names, LOL. That's one way to get people to see your websites !!!)

 

I love the idea of the bridle. Just need to find out how good I'm going to be with knots !!!!!  Which knots do you usually use to secure the rope to the clips?  (Back to basics !!!)

 

Sylvie

 

I use a standard bow line to tie the clips. It's the easiest for me to remember. Something about the fox comes out the hole, around the tree, and back down the hole. You know, simple things for simple minds. ;)

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carry one and only use it when necessary, I was in PNG where you must carry one the same as a safety sausage.

If used correctly I think they are a benefit.

 

:)

 

I spend a month in PNG every year and I have NEVER used a hook. I've never seen one produced or allowed on the boats I've used, nor would I use one. I have never seen one used without some damage to the reef. Multiply one small damage with the numbers of divers in any one area and that damage adds up.

 

What boat do you use that requires one?

 

On the seamounts, we simply dive on the leeward side, hense little current. On linear reefs, we drift. I respect boats who believe in "leave no marks on the ecosystem".

 

Having been behind such boats as yours on pristine reefs, I'v seen that damage.

 

Oh, and I do manage to get good pics in rough currents without one, and I'm

proud that it isn't easy when I think of the damage I did not do.

 

End of rant.

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Quote "I've never seen one produced or allowed on the boats I've used, nor would I use one. "

 

Some of the skippers I've used (not PNG) would either throw the hook or diver who tried to use one, off!

 

I must agree Alison, that its perfectly possible to get good shots without such devices and without causing any damage.

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Regarding the Reefhook,

I use one in specific dives and think you can use it without damage in certain situations but not anytime and anywhere.

 

Regarding the SMB discussion, I'm using a small 5ft, 35lbs for shore dives and a 7ft, 75lbs version for offshore diving. I have broken a couple of the plastic ones before already but the Carter seems to last.

It also saved my butt in a couple of down-current situations...

 

Cheers

Torben

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Hi Guys,

Great topic.

 

I live and work in Palau. Before that I was in Yap for 3 years (here for 1 and a half so far). Reef Hooks when used properly are both safe and environmentaly friendly. Notice I said "when used properly". There are always some divers who's limited experience is reflected in their choice of locations to anchor themselves.

 

But believe me there are not many dive shops here who use or promote their use. There are daily exhibitions of very poorly led dive groups by guides which don't seem to be too bothered about their divers climbing all over the reef when the currents start ripping. If reef hooks do, from time to time, become eroneously placed I would motion that the damage done is by and far less destructive than having dive group after dive group litterally crawling over the reef by their uneducated guides.

 

Its a tough call. I use one as I film daily in Palau. There are quite a few reefs here though that don't require the use of reef hooks. I guess it all comes down to what your personal ethics involve. Either way I love what I do and I don't lay judgement to anyone else should they decide to use one or not. I see their benefit and I appreciate them.

 

Cheers,

Mark.

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Good thoughts mark,

 

I'm glad I was given one when I dived Blue corner in Palau as I would have ended up in OZ otherwise...!!

 

As quoted, you just have to be careful and listen to where the guides tell you to stick your hook... Or sling it.

 

All though I did see clumbsy divers crawling all over the reefs for better positions.

 

Its all down to the individuals attitudes and skill levels I'm afraid. Educate the masses to save our oceans assess.. Or something like that ??

 

Dive safe

 

DeanB

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After my first trip to Palau, I made a bridle for my BC. Two small clips and a short length of parachute cord, doubled for strength. Clips from D-ring to D-ring across the chest. Two knots help center the clip of the reef hook but still allows the clip to slide, if needed, to turn sideways. I spent several hours this last weekend digging in my closets looking for it, as I’m headed to Palau in two weeks. I finally found it in my old BC that was replaced last year. I also found a lost Do-Rag and pair of gloves. Woo-Hoo I’m set to go.

 

If you ask me...this one looks like one of those golf "swing trainers". :lol: I'm not sure I'd be that comfortable if this puppy started to dangle from its stowage.. :lol:

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Just returned from 3 1/2 weeks in Galapagos including 5 days at Wolf and Darwin. I was the only diver on Sky Dancer not using a reef hook in extremely strong currents. Can't say it wouldn't have come in handy, but I prefered to use the large boulders available to hide from the current. Definately built up my right fore arm from holding the camera one handed though. And by the way, my Carter SMB saved my rear several time waiting for the Zodiac in 8 foot seas.

 

Doug

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After my first trip to Palau, I made a bridle for my BC. Two small clips and a short length of parachute cord, doubled for strength. Clips from D-ring to D-ring across the chest. Two knots help center the clip of the reef hook but still allows the clip to slide, if needed, to turn sideways. I spent several hours this last weekend digging in my closets looking for it, as I’m headed to Palau in two weeks. I finally found it in my old BC that was replaced last year. I also found a lost Do-Rag and pair of gloves. Woo-Hoo I’m set to go.

 

If you ask me...this one looks like one of those golf "swing trainers".  :lol:  I'm not sure I'd be that comfortable if this puppy started to dangle from its stowage.. :D

 

 

I can see your "point" :lol:

I don't actually dive with it hanging like that I just wanted to show how it is used. I do hook the bridel across on dives that may need the hook, but the hook is kept stowed in my left brest pocket untill needed.

 

I just got back from Palau and used this setup on only two of ten dives, the rest of the time it stayed stowed.

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On the subjects of flags, mine was seen from SIX miles at Cocos by the divers on the other panga.

Herriott Watt University did a study and revealed that YELLOW is more easily seen than ORANGE and that a flag is more easily seen than a sausage due to the eye identifying horizontal shapes better than vertical ones from a long distance.

 

However, if you want to use a Mother Buoy that's your business. Just be sure your crack-bottle is always full because mine takes a full one to inflate it. The flag is joyfully low-tech and low-tech has advantages in emergencies. I also used mine to sail across the lagoon at Aldabra to join the owner of IOE. He ordered a dozen immediately he got to shore!

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And john got to use it a lot in the Tuamotus as well... didn't matter how often we tried to lose him, some guest would spot his flag and we had to go get him! Damn!

 

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You really know how to hurt someone, Mike. I am a person just like you, you know. (Ha Ha) :lol::)

(PS. I liked your shark-feeding article in Diver Mag. Stand by for one with proper BIG Fiji sharks in the June issue.)

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Hi John,

 

six miles sounds very good...

drifted once from Peleliu (Palau) for quite a while...

Who makes your mega flag pole assembly?

I'm very interested to get a couple of them...

 

Cheers

Torben

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http://www.divernet.com/gear/dtst0400.htm

 

# Much bigger than my head!

 

Bowstone diver's flag Be seen or be lost. That is the rule for divers waiting to be picked up at the surface.

The sea is a big place and a diver's head is very small. It is easily made invisible if there is the smallest disturbance to the surface.

I learned long ago that a tall safety sausage or a flag was an essential item of equipment. The problem with the safety sausage is that it usually requires two hands to deploy it, and underwater photographers like me rarely have two hands free. A flag needs only one.

The Bowstone diver's flag comes attached to a mast that folds in sections, so that is easily stowed under some elastic cords sprung round the aqualung cylinder. Once unfolded it is 1.8m tall. The flag measures about 55cm square and comes in day-glo yellow. Following the recent HSE report (Can Anybody See Me?, January), our own tests in the middle of the Pacific have shown us that this is indeed the most readily noticeable of colours.

The Bowstone Diver's Flag is essential for the serious diver. It costs £18.

# Bowstone Diving Products 0044 161 442 0272

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John,

 

Are you the John who took pictures of Scarface the day she came back after a few months of absence ??? If so and you have a picture of her in the June article, I need to subscribe ASAP. A friend of mine was there too but did not get to see her as it was his degas day that day. So if you have a picture he is about to suffer (again !!!!) and I'm about to be cussed at, LOL !!!!! Don't you love (friendly) competition between buddies, it keeps things quite exiting and interesting (if done in a nice way of course) :-) :-) :-). The story behind this is that because of all of the wetpixelers I thought we should go see tiger sharks in the Bahamas but oh no he was going to go see Scarface in Fiji and see one up close and personal before me !!!! Well you know the rest of the story, LOL :-)

I saw that you dove Sudan. Which boat were you on, I was on the Don Questo last October. To all the wetpixelers diving the red sea in Egypt, take a look at Sudan, it is well worth the effort and not crowded at all.

I think I also saw that you dove Aldabra, I was considering doing so on the IOE. How was it and would you recommend the IOE (not that there is many other choices)? In the past it was a nasty boat in a great diving area but I know the boat was bought back a few years ago so I was wondering if it was any better now.

I'm also interested to know about your yellow flag (just making sure they won't loose me if I go dive in YAP, LOL !!!!!! )

 

Thanks

 

Sylvie

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Hi Sylvie.

 

Yes Scarface will be in the June edition of Diver Mag (on-line in July).

 

I hear IOE is a bit of a shambles since David Rowat withdrew but it is a choice of one!

 

Here is a quick pic of Scarface to wet your appetite. She is a REAL shark, not one of those little nancy-boy jobs! post-4197-1145865268_thumb.jpg

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Thanks John, She certainly is a big Babe !!!!!!. It gives a new meaning to the word divemaster !!!!!

 

Sylvie

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