Dive Solo

[ce4jesus 1]

I just wanted to bring this up for some discussion surrounding this topic. I've gone solo once and have mixed feelings about it. No group to follow at their pace. Choice of site. I can spend the entire dive with a subject if I want rather than feel obligated to move on. The only negatives are the feelings of vulnerability should something go wrong. I'd like to hear from those who do this on a regular basis and what your reasons are.

 

Thanks

[pmooney 6]

I consider every dive to be a solo dive - my precaution is have a pony bottle & reg , a ultra heavy duty safety sausage with 10 mtrs of line attached.

 

My advice to any one who is solo diving is to dive within the limits of your training / experience , exercise caution and listen to the inner you.

[wagsy 0]

If it's just play diving (14 meters max) then I do it all the time. One cannot concentrate on your subjects if you have to worry about someone else.

 

Quite often while play diving I will forget to look at my air only to find out after 90 mins that it is low as the tank got harder to breath from. Still gives me plenty of time to come up. What happens after a while one just gets to know when it's time without looking at any gauge especially if it's a site you have dived hundreds of times before.

 

I use to sit at 22 meters and fill my BCD up and watch it float up to the surface. After abit I would slowly swim up to the worried look of the folks on the boat. .

Mind you it's abit hard to do this on a commercial dive boat without getting into trouble .

 

Seriously coming up from 14 meters or shallower without any air is no big deal really if you are a comfortable free diving water person that can free dive down to that depth anyhow. So the only other real dangers are heart attack or you get bitten and that can happen anywhere. You should also get to know the animals and what they do....like not swimming closely right over the top of a Ray like someone we all knew did.

 

Deeper depths and where a safety stop is really needed it's best to dive with someone but make sure they are not a lollipop diver and you have to end up looking after them.

 

But I don't recommend anyone do as I do though.

[IMSushi 0]

I must admit I have only recently dove without a buddy. I always had my wife or some student I was looking after as part of a class, being a Divemaster. On my last outing I was on a boat where I didn't know anyone else and besides they were all hunters. What's a guy sporting a camera to have in common with guys whose favorite word for the weekend was "Riffe"?

 

As it turned out I really enjoyed being down there by myself with no one else to look after or worry about. I carry a SpareAir which would easily get me to the surface as our average dives were in the 35 to 45 fsw range. I could concentrate on my subject and move along as I needed to, not as my wife got bored and wanted to marathon swim over to the next set of rocks or kelp.

 

I even added 10 to 15 minutes to my bottom time because I wasn't moving around on someone else's whim!

 

I wouldn't recommend this practice to just anyone. You have to plan ahead for any emergency and be very comfortable in the water by yourself. As I came back to work earlier this week I heard a story of a coworker's husband diving solo in San Diego and being found by a kayacker floating face down! It was a sad day for everyone, but could this "ACCIDENT" have been avoided if he was diving with a "BUDDY"?

 

Earlier this year, an owner of a local dive store was teaching an ice diving class in a lake in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. He decided to dive solo off of his guide line. He wasn't seen for another two days...under the ice. Could this have been prevented if he had a buddy or attached himself to the line?

 

Bottom line, dive agencies have set standards that are meant to be followed for a reason. I'm not saying that I follow every one of them, but when I break a very basic rule, I am accepting the possibility that I may not be returning to the boat. Dive Safe!

[CamDiver 5]

Hi all,

If you mean having an assigned buddy for each dive then I would imagine most of the posters here dive solo!! I am one of the nutters who does this for a living so really in effect I'm diving solo everyday. That said there are a lot of people around. I don't have a pony bottle on the dailies. I wear really big freediving fins and can kick like a mule in an out of air situation

 

Staying within my limits!! I've been in some pretty crazy situations where any manner of things could have gone wrong, and during some of those times if I'd have listened to the 'Inner Me' well I wouldn't be writing this now. Sometimes you need to do the exact opposite of what should actually be the apparent sensible thing to do. Personally I put it down to what your own personal comfort level is. If you are happy to stay around 25m playing in the nicely lit waters then so be it. If on the other hand you are happy to drop solo to 60m to the floor of a cave (the roof being at 30m) in order to potentially catch a fleeting shot of a Tiger, Thresher or Hammerhead, then again so be it.

 

Even on trips, I tend to hang with other 'Imagers' so we all do our own thing and tend to end up solo on most dives. I think most serious snappers tend to respect the fundamental laws of the sport but put on some kind of bravado when asked about solo diving. It can still bite, so long as you respect, understand and accept that then its down to you to set your own comfort level. I guess you only feel vulnerable if you put yourself in a situation you are not happy with. Like I said it all comes down to acceptance of the situation you choose to put yourself in. I actually prefer to be solo. No one to bugger up my shots, but thats another topic eh?

 

Cheers,

Mark.

[hoovermd 0]

Even tho I am married to my buddy since we are both photogs each and every dive is essentially a solo dive.

Anyone who has dove with us has heard our little "rattle code"...

 

We each carry a rattle and have several signals. Much like hand signals but more useful when you cannot see the other person. Very often I am down at 100' shooting some WA subject and she may be up at 25' taking macro, so we have adapted.

 

I agree that the "rule of thumb" should be to know your limits.

 

I am really annoyed when operations will not allow solo diving because IMHO I'm safer solo than with an "assigned" buddy. Simply assigning a buddy for the convenience of the operator places my buddy at risk since

I'm likely to be concentrating upon the photographic subject and really doesn't do me any favors because I rarely feel comfortable with the skill of my newfound partner.

 

Let us all admit that we photo types are really crappy buddies and each dive with a camera is basically a solo dive for someone.

 

Kudos to boats like the Ocean Rover which allow solo diving. I'm less than happy with some of the Aggressor boats which do not.

[serge 2]

i always buddy up with my camera

so when i take pictures i always go solo

i dont take any pony bottles or spare airs or stuff like that

if i go by myself on the housereef i never go deeper than twentyfive meters and thats it> sometimes i go photodiving with my girlfriend but even then it ends up being a solodive> camera and buddysystems just dont mix>

 

if thet is a good thing or not? maybe not but i think most photographers handle it this way

 

serge

[writepic 0]

good post.

 

i have to say i pretty much always dive solo as long as i know the site fairly well and know i can get out of the water safely when i surface. (like do i trust the boat staff that they won't go without me it's only happened to me once)

 

though i would echo the previos post that said you should stay within your own limits. good advice.

 

the most stressful dive ive ever been on is when a guide asked me to buddy with another photographer.....jeez what a pain in the ass that was. we were both trying to dive solo within the confines of looking after each other. it would've been a lot easier and less stressful if the guide had of told us we could both dive solo.

 

mark.

[ATJ 1]

I used to regularly dive solo. All shore dives and all in an area I was very familiar. I would rarely go any deeper than 10 metres. The funny thing was that I went to the same spot with two buddies (neither of whom had any clue) and I was probably in much more danger with these two people than all the times I was on my own.

 

I always dived well within my limits and never took any risks.

[NWDiver 43]

Been solo diving for +20yrs, long before I got a camera. It has to be somthing that "makes sense" to you. I dive in part for the freedom to do what I want, when I want and not have to be concerned about someone else. Now I always dive with a 19cf pony, extra computer, etc... But I just assume Mother Nature is trying to kill me and dive accordingly.

[tdpriest 115]

A difficult one to admit to: you're probably invalidating your insurance if you dive solo...

 

... but I gear up with independent or manifolded twins deeper than 20ish meters, since I know that my focus, so to speak, is in the viewfinder, and my "buddy" doesn't exist if not in that small window.

 

If I stop for a shot, when I'm travelling on my own, I expect the other divers to disappear into the blue (or the green in the UK). If I can work with a "buddy" for some shots, then that's a real bonus. I warn the team about the siren song of the image in the viewfinder, and that I'm trying to be self-sufficient in the water. I guess that I adopt the mind-set of the solo diver, but don't set out to dive with complete independence.

 

I am more concerned about the way buddies work: the team needs to be well-matched and comfortable together, and a team of more than two divers is a recipe for one getting lost.

 

I'm working on turning my children into underwater models, so that I can avoid the temptations of going solo!

 

A buddy:

 

 

A "buddy":

 

 

Tim

 

B)

[johnny boy 0]

Some of my best dives have been solo. Recently on a trip in the UK my buddy and I got seperated due to poor viz. As we knew each other well enough to carry on the dive I ended up solo. I was doing some video stuff when a lonely seal came into view. It was just the seal and me on our own. Brilliant!

[NWDiver 43]

Johnny Boy please don't take this as an attack. If you pre-arranged with your buddy that if you get separated that you would continue on as solo divers that’s great. Most arguments I have seen at dive sites are between buddies when their expectations are not one in the same. Nothing worse than losing a buddy, looking for the suggest period (based on your training agency) ,aborting the dive and surfacing to find them no where in sight. Even when everyone makes it back no problem this situation always seems to end in a heated exchange.

[acroporas 0]

Yea! one of my favorite topics. I believe that the concept of a "dive buddy" is one of the worst ideas ever. While having someone around to baby-sit new or infrequent divers is important and needed, having another inexperienced diver as a buddy does not help much. And why would an experienced diver want to PAY to go on a dive trip so that they can baby-sit some stranger.

 

Inexperienced divers should be accompanied by a divemaster who is trained to keep an eye and offer assistance and experienced divers should be permitted to go off on their own.

 

But what if the experienced diver gets into a bind? Sure it happens, but I would love to see statistics as to how often an experienced diver gets into trouble AND is successfully rescued by their buddy. I'd bet not very often. The kind of trouble that experienced divers get into, about all the buddy can do is bring back the corpse.

 

The only problem with this is that how do you decide who qualifies as "experienced."

 

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And then comes the underwater photographer. The underwater photographer complicates things further. Even experienced divers are rarely an appropriate buddy for a photographer. Not many people are prepared/willing to dive at the pace of a photographer: swimming around looking for something interesting, and then parking there for 15 minutes. I find that nearly every time I start off with a buddy, they have abandoned me before I am finished with my first subject.

 

Since I stared diving with a dSLR, I almost always end up diving solo, even when I am diving with friends who are equally experienced. That said, I feel that my hole in my photography is that my photos very rarely include a model.

 

The ideal solution for photographers is to hire a guide to help search for subjects and double as a model. This kills two birds with one stone, I get what I want (both a model and someone to look for interesting critters) AND I get a buddy who won’t abandon me (which makes the lawyers happy on commercial dive boats).

 

Unfortunately I do not have the extra cash to hire a guide for every dive. So I am just careful to choose destinations / boats which will let me dive solo. If only I could convince my wife to learn to dive so that she could model for me.

[nopro 0]

I do around 50 dives every year and half of them are solo dives. I only take pictures for fun so I'm not forced to dive in any situation. The basic rules I use are familiarity and comfort. I won't dive a questionable (difficult site) alone the first time I'm there. I have two pony bottles to choose from depending on depth and conditions (13 & 19). I don't use a pony if I'm staying above 50 to 70 ft. I practice pony accents occasionally so I know what to expect if something goes wrong at 100 ft. Remember your air consumption increases when something is wrong. If you don't feel safe in the specific situation you should skip the dive or have an experienced buddy with you. If in doubt don't, it's better to miss the shot that the next dive.

Edited July 31, 2007 by nopro

[Islandbound 1]

I go out on the average 4 dives a week or about 16 hours and only once every two weeks or so does someone ever go with me. Even then its usually just a ride along in the car with several people who then leave me once we get to our destination. Taking photographs is a lonely hobby to me but one in which I get absorbed in that keeping up with someone is time consuming. Most of the people I go out with are spearfishing for thier dinner and are usuall at the 70' end of the tether on their Riffe anyway.

 

I went out on a dive boat this past Saturday with 10 other divers who the divemaster buddied up initially but then left it at thier discretion if they would continue the day that way. For me, being tankless, he just shrugged his shoulders about matching me with anyone. None the less the boat anchored in 40' then 60' waters which for everyone else was probably great, for me it meant long long dives to get photos. I do wear a bright red hood and carry a water whistle for signaling though if I get separated. He did a good job watching me though and even signaled me from the boat when he spotted surfacing turtles and even a HUGE school of Bonita.

 

This was my dive buddy from the first anchorage!

Edited July 31, 2007 by Islandbound

[Paul Kay 65]

Any discussion about solo diving always raises blood pressure in my experience. If you look at the statistics (the last I looked at were from BSAC) you may well find that solo diving increases risk. That said, its your life, your decision, etc,. I personally prefer to dive with a buddy with whom I get on with very well (usually my wife) underwater, which has often led to the both of us getting good shots because the other has spotted something really interesting and shares the find. I think that Cousteau used to recommend the buddy system - mostly for reasons which haven't changed in half a century.

[Cerianthus 55]

I dive with a double tank setup, but definitely need more practice... I had an out of air situation during the last trip. The dive center had closed the isolator, and my regulator is so d#^$mn good, that I only discovered that I was very low on air during the last few breaths.

 

I figured out what was wrong breathing of my buddies octopus, but then realised i could use my own.... normally I have the other stage hanging from my neck, but now the cord was broken so I didnt automatically reach for it.

 

Gerard

 

The practice I need is in opening and closing my own valves....Needless to say I triple checked the valves after that dive....

[Nemo 0]

Some of the most relaxing dives I have made have been solo, with or with out my camera. Not having to consider someone else and keep an eye for them frees you to fully immerse (parden the bun) yourself in the experience. I dive CCR with a good deal of redundancy and in 34 years of diving have never needed a buddy or needed to offer assistance to a buddy. It is all in the traning, the hours spent practicing, and in the respect for the enviroment you have put yourself in.

[jonny shaw 16]

Of course, nothing feels better than having total freedom to go where you want to, have no responsibilty for anyone else, spend ages setting up the shot.... I love it.

 

The other side is the fact that you have to know the site, be confident and have sufficient redundancy

[scorpio_fish 5]

What's solo diving?

 

I'm not a big fan of showing up at dive site by oneself and doing a dive all alone. Redundancy is a must, but even so, it's riskier.

 

OTOH, read about every fatality. Some were diving alone, but most had buddies and were also in a group. Somehow the buddies became separated one died for some reason. Close buddy diving is highly overrated for safety. It only takes a split second for separation or for a real problem to arise. Ask any instructor who leads OW students in poor visibility.

 

The other reality is that if you are carrying a camera, you might as well assume you are alone, because at some point you will be. The best case scenario is that you can find your buddy in an OOA emergency.

 

A few years ago, I was on a wall in Palau. My mask started flooding. I had a slap strap with those plastic clips and one had come undone. So while holding my rig, I take the mask off to redo the clip. I take a breath and it's salt water. I do it again, same thing. I hit the purge button, but my finger goes right through my mouth piece. When taking my mask off (while grasping the camera), I inadvertently yanked the 2nd stage off of the mouth piece. My primary 2nd stage was dangling somewhere and I had no mask on while holding a double strobed camera rig. That and I hadn't had a breath in about 30 seconds. I hate when that happens.

 

I was also on the tail end of the group. No one saw any of it. I was on my own. I just got myself back together and rejoined the group.

[K9Shadow 9]

I know I am new to this forum so I don't want to step on any toes. I spent some time as a public safety diver being on the end of a line in cold zero viz water. So yes I have spent time solo diving.

 

Fast forward to a dive in Key Largo recently on the Speigal Grove. There were about 8 of us on the wreck. When it was time to surface and everyone was low on air one of our group swam to the wrong bouy line and none of us had enough air to swim through the current and get him. He ended up at the surface in a strong current holding on to the bouy while everyone came back on board and we could motor over to get him. In this case even with many "buddies" he still got into trouble. Most dives I do today I see the people spread out so much that even if you did have an emergency you couldn't get anyones attention in time to help. So as far as I have seen most divers today are "solo" diving even if there is someone in the water with them. The buddy system will only work if you are about an arms length from your buddy.

 

With all that said I don't go out on the water by myself, I always go with other people even though I don't stay with them underwater. And from my PSD days I always have and alternate air source if I am going deeper than I can comfortably do a swimming ascent.

 

On another note like I said I am new to the forum and kudos to all. I have found some great info here.

[Giles 1]

Now a days you can dive with a 10 year old kid or a 100 year person with.

 

Either way I don't consider diving with a 10 year old or a 100 year old to be a safe buddy feature. I don't think a ten year old is capable of the emotional ability to perform a rescue whilst staying safe them selves, and quite frankly i don't like a 100 year old chances of it either !

 

I don't condone diving on your own, I believe it deserves a certain amount of training and experience. I think one of the reasons i feel comfortable doing it is I respect my limits and have seen enough accidents and had to save enough people in my time I am more aware of what may go wrong underwater than most divers.

Someone used to have (i dont know if they still do) a trainging course for solo diving ... i don't think that was a good idea.

[fdog 3]

<snip> I spent some time as a public safety diver being on the end of a line in cold zero viz water. <snip>

...I wouldn't call this solo diving, any more than my time surface supplied was solo diving...

 

I wouldn't even consider solo diving without everything fully redundant. Just like I was on an overhead-restricted dive. Except, of course, the most important piece of equipment would not be redundant - my brain.

 

Yes, yes, I know this sounds like the Kool-Aid answer, but they won't have me; I drive the wrong make of scooter and use a (gasp) jacket occasionally. Too much of an independent thinker.

 

All the best, James

 

 

PS - my current proceedure is to have a buddy that understands that I will be a self absorbed photographer and has patience to let me do my thang.

[Paul Kay 65]

Essentially we are talking about risk here! It appears (as I said earlier) from statistical info, that diving solo increases risk. But to put this in perspective, I just returned from a two week dive trip in cool Scottish waters, 24 dives 12 participants - no problems at all. BUT 30 miles into the 400 mile journey home, one of the divers destroyed a landrover in a crash - fortunately he walked away from a total wreck (a complete write off) with minimal bruising and no one was hurt. I suspect that, if we looked carefully at the stats, we would find that the most dangerous thing that we do as divers is drive to and from the dive site!!!

 

This said, solo diving is not something that I would personally recommend. It relies on substantial self control if an UNFORESEEN EVENT takes place, and the unexpected is exactly that. Panic situations are not pleasant and reactions to a potentially life threatening situation are hard to (honestly) pre-assess - although discussing how to deal with them is something we all do. Carrying total redundancy (as I do, and my buddy) will help in an out of air situation but there are problems which only a second person can help sort out - a failed drysuit zip leading to a substantial loss of buoyancy and sudden severe temperature drop as an example - I can think of two such cases - where a buddy helped during a very unpleasant ascent - this would be an extremely disorientating experience I would guess. Underwater photography is something which I want to continue doing for a very long time to come and to me diving with a buddy is something which I am comfy with and which I hope will ensure that this will happen.