Dan Schwartz suspended for 14 days

[dmoss 0]

What can I say, from a manufacturers point of view it was good laughing matter, its not every day we have that level of pipe dreaming.

 

I actually squirted Diet Pepsi out my nose the other night reading the 'Medium Format on Snuba' post.

[Viz'art 24]

I actually squirted Diet Pepsi out my nose the other night reading the 'Medium Format on Snuba' post.

 

Gross, I like to expel my Nitrogen in a more fashionable way

[JoelD 0]

Wow, I'm starting to feel better, I'm not seeing every post in a thread edited by author....

 

And I've shared a room with dmoss on a couple of trips, lets all just be thankful he said Diet Pepsi.....

Edited November 22, 2007 by JoelD

[craig 0]

I apologize for having contributed to the unpleasant environment around here recently. I had hoped that continuous, pointed corrections to Dan's steady stream of mistakes would encourage him to listen more and post less embarassing and potentially harmful comments. It became clear pretty quickly that it wasn't working and, after a brief discussion with other moderators, we agreed that my efforts were counterproductive and I stopped. My argument with Troy was collateral damage. Had it not been for Dan, I doubt Troy and I would have ever had that conversation. I actually had interest in the MF discussion.

 

My most recent comment was motivated by Dan showing disrepect for many on the board, both implicitly and explicitly, and for a direct abuse of the public forum system by singling out who he "authorized" to respond. A public forum is for everyone to participate, so if Dan wished to converse only with the three members he named, he should have taken the discussion offline. His insults of Giles and others for posting displeasing (though appropriate) comments and his condescending comment toward industry engineers was too much for me. My comment was likely unnecessary, but the suggestion that guys like Jean, Stephen, and Mauricio (to name just a few), who's individual experiences to date are far more than Dan will ever know, are monitoring Dan's comments for product ideas was simply too much for me to let go. A forum filled with that kind of garbage will run off everyone from industry professionals to enthusiasts and beginners.

 

I have no complaint with anyone who messaged Eric or any of the moderators with complaints regarding my posts, and I would encourage them to send them to me as well in the future. I don't blame anyone for disliking the threads that I helped create. I certainly didn't. I also don't believe that Dan will change. I doubt he's capable of behaving in any way other than how he has already shown.

[pakman 0]

'May the Schwartz be with you'

 

thanks Simon There goes my morning coffee... time to get a refill and wipe off my monitor...

[loftus 42]

One of the problems with the internet and forums, is that individuals can post any garbage they like with impunity, and do not have to take responsibility for their actions. So I think it is important that folks like Dan are called on the carpet so to speak. I think Craig expressed what most of us thought, and I personally appreciate it that Craig did not back down.

 

thanks Simon There goes my morning coffee... time to get a refill and wipe off my monitor...

Yeah, I had to wipe the wine off my keyboard!

Edited November 22, 2007 by loftus

[Paul Kay 65]

One of the problems with the internet and forums, is that individuals can post any garbage they like with impunity, and do not have to take responsibility for their actions.

 

Whilst I don't particularly like censorship, I've watched other 'respected' fora devolve into some absurdly pointless photo discussions and have ended up simply not visiting them anymore as filtering out the (sometimes very) useful and interesting information became too difficult. IMHO wetpixel holds a good line, offers some good excellent discussions and provides a wealth of helpful information - I DO happily point many people towards wetpixel and whilst some only extract the info they need at the time, others seem interested and impressed enough to revisit, so this is feedback rather than opinion. In other words, I'd say that wetpixel has good credibility and I suspect that the action taken here has been handled in a way that reinforces this rather than otherwise.

[cdoyal 0]

Eric-

Can you ban my brother-in-law from the dinner table today? He's the same way: an expert on everything and no one wants to listen!

Chris

[vkalia 1]

After reading this post, I went through the entire Dan Schwartz Opus. My god, that is some seriously good dope there. Dan reminds me about that Holiday Inn Select ad from a while back ("I'm no expert, but I stayed at Holiday Inn Select").

 

Almost made me feel better about dropping my Aquatica rig right on top of the 8" dome port and causing my 17-70 lens to come apart about 1/3" of the way down its length. Almost.

 

Vandit

[Giles 1]

 

you mean like that one ...

 

"did someone talk some sense into you?"

"no, but i did stay at a holiday inn express last night"

 

I haven't seen those before thats a hilarious analogy!

[bartusderidder 0]

...my Aquatica rig right on top of the 8" dome port

 

Vandit, a rig??? you mean you're not putting your camera in a Ewa-Marine Bag? ;-)

[vkalia 1]

Vandit, a rig??? you mean you're not putting your camera in a Ewa-Marine Bag? ;-)

 

No, no, I am waiting to get a H3D with supermacro setup and bellows. Only then will I house it in an Ewa-Marine housing. And thus Aquatica will lose the revenue they get from my annual "let's destroy the bloody housing" - this impending loss of revenue will force them to lay off Jean Bruneau, who will then start a new career as nude underwater MF model. Shot on a Hassy, of course.

 

And that reminds me - one time in band camp, I met Ansel Adams and we exchanged 200ft x 150ft images and we were using 2-positron thingamajigs. And this NY Art Director was admiring my 1903 Lithograph and it was all very entertaining.

 

You know, it really IS hard work going off at a complete tangent. I vote we bring Dan back and have an entire sub-section devoted to him. He still has to get into the whole realm of buoyancy while on 'mix and with twin sets.

 

Vandit "185 min of bottom time and 10 keepers today"

[Scuba_SI 39]

thanks Simon There goes my morning coffee... time to get a refill and wipe off my monitor...

 

not sure if this will work, or even if it's allowed...

 

Edit: didnt embed..

 

[bartusderidder 0]

too cool, Simon

 

 

I was going through some posts of Dan and I noticed this one. Could that be the reason for his behaviour? Is the trying to compensate for something?

 

Sorta looks like this item on eBay:

[Pacislander 0]

I only kept up with some of his first posts and realized all he was doing was trying to show off and act like he is better then everyone cause he shoots MF and apaprently has a crap load of money. Not that everyone acts like that if the shoot MF, but he wanted everyone to know (everday). Thanks for suspending him. I was tired of seeing his name pop up cause I knew all he was doing was bragging.

[pakman 0]

I don't know guys, Dan really did get me thinking...

 

I can't wait to slap my camera housing in front of my snooba scooter and chase mantas around...

[Scuba_SI 39]

ahh, Pak, in a few years you will be doddering around the reefs on one of those, so you shouldn't laugh!

 

In the spirit of the good man himself, i shall go off topic....

 

There is something wrong with going out for drinks and waking up at mid day with a big mac and fries in your bed isnt there..... Sadly i'm that hungover i'm contemplating eating it!

 

 

Possibly i'm a bit drunk still, but i feel a little bad for Dan and i would welcome him back as long as he behaves.

[CamDiver 5]

Here, here Simon. No need to kick someone when they are down.

[rtrski 20]

Certainly made me read the raw (and uninformed) enthusiasm in some of my first posts, having the audacity to give someone else 'advice' because they were ready to jump to dSLR and I'd just bought my first, and cringe at what 'could have been' if I didn't tone it down and listen. It's easy to see how one could be motivated to defend everything they've ever said vs. taking a step back. I'm sure the long-timers here see that cycle time and time again from new members.

 

Sorry to say though, that I agree with Eric 100%. As one of the 'noobs' still searching in the dark sans flashlight or glasses, some of his posts in various threads did screw with my head. I ignored most of the MF stuff as it's so far out of my realm it didn't matter, but otherwise you just couldn't ignore the seagull droppings over every single thread....

 

My personal apologies for my similar guano contributions, past and present.

[John Bantin 101]

Oh bugger! I feel a banning coming my way!!!

 

I admit to going on another UK forum and baiting the sad people on it, but then I have built up a huge fan base doing it!

[Guest echeng]

Dan Schwartz came back rather obviously as another user, "Charlie_Matco" (a known pseudo-name), before his suspension time was up. Although "Charlie" has been better behaved than Dan so far, I have no patience for deceipt, and so Dan, Charlie, and their matching ip address have been banned.

 

IP Address : 67.81.219.173 [ ool-4351dbad.dyn.optonline.net ]

ISP : Optimum Online (Cablevision Systems)

Organization : Optimum Online (Cablevision Systems)

Location : US US, United States

City : Parlin, NJ 08859

Latitude : 40°45'92" North

Longitude : 74°30'20" West

 

Goodbye, Dan! Let's move on once and for all...

[kriptap 0]

Good! how the heck did he think you would not know, just read the posts of his alias and is obvious same old crap, same old antagonism.

[loftus 42]

Dan, Charlie, and their matching ip address have been banned.

I guess it's just a matter of time before he just finds another computer; why do people have to do this?

[bartusderidder 0]

Sigh

[Guest echeng]

In order to put Dan behind us, I'm closing this thread. Should he show up again, I'll re-open it.