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Linda, TSA gets the picture illustrated version :P

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At least we are going back to two piece of handbaggage again - to carry all these lithiums!

 

We've got some great news: thanks to new guidelines from the UK Department for Transport, we're increasing our cabin bag allowance. As of 7 January 2008 you will be able to carry two pieces of hand baggage through security when departing or transferring from London Heathrow, London City, Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow or Manchester airports.

 

The British Airways hand baggage allowance is as follows:

One bag no bigger than 56 cm x 45 cm x 25 cm (22 inches x 17.5 inches x 9.85 inches) (including wheels, pockets and handles) • In addition, one briefcase or laptop sized bag

 

Alex

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At least we are going back to two piece of handbaggage again - to carry all these lithiums!

Alex

 

Im traveling through heathrow on tuesday and got that message as well. I think im going to gamble it. The last two years or so Heathrow has been hell to go through, worse than any other place in the world.

 

What got my attention was the 'you can take a 23kg bag in carry-on as long as you can lift it in the overhead compartment'. WOW! 23kg. Thats as much as their checked limit!

 

Cor

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Spare Lithium Batteries Banned in Checked Luggage

 

Effective Jan. 1, 2008, customers traveling to, from or within the United States will no longer be able to carry spare lithium batteries in their checked bags.

 

Customers may bring spare lithium batteries for laptops, cell phones and cameras in their carry-on luggage. When bringing spare batteries in carry-on luggage it’s best to leave them in the original packaging. If packing loose batteries secure them with tape so that the ends of the batteries do not come into contact with each other and place each battery in separate plastic bags. The limit is two batteries per passenger.

 

Customers may still place electronic items in checked luggage with the batteries still inside the devices.

 

Details and information on other prohibited items may also be found at SafeTravel.dot.gov.

 

 

 

The above is straight off the Continental Website. I guarantee they will be inforcing this one as wrong as it is.

 

Jim

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The airlines to not check luggage, TSA does. In less Continental is going to install their own baggage x-ray machines at the gate, they have no way to enforce it...

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The airlines to not check luggage, TSA does. In less Continental is going to install their own baggage x-ray machines at the gate, they have no way to enforce it...

 

True enough, I just hope TSA reads better than the folks at Continental.

 

I need to use spell-check, when typing while working.

 

Jim

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Im heading out to the US surrounded by a sea of lithium, so we'll see what happens :D

 

Cor

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I got this e-mail late evening 1/7 from our of our divers who works for the TSA and who gave me permission to share it with you:

 

"Just wanted to give you and other diver's some inside info on TSA rules. I work for TSA and the Lithium Battery regulation came out this week. We were told to stand down on the situation and do NOT enforce the rule. You were right in the fact that it is a DOT rule not FAA or TSA. If anybody is still worried about there lithium batteries, it only applied to checked baggage and if you have them in the device it's no problem. If you have spare one's throw them in a plastic bag by themselves individually so it cannot make contact with metal. Anyway, just wanted to clarify that TSA would not be enforcing that rule."

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I flew last night (Tuscany back to UK) - and in Europe there is no issue on lithium batteries yet.

 

I will be interested to hear what Cor experiences.

 

Alex

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Im in Miami right now and the word battery was not mentioned anywhere. Im flying on a domestic flight inside the US tomorrow, but I dont expect any hassle really. No posters or notices anywhere in MIA. It seems like they're not enforcing this at all for now.

 

Cor

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Ok, im about to board the American flight domestically, and again, no mention of any kind of batteries. It's like it never happened. Ive got enough lithium with me to cure most of the depressed looking people here in the gate, so i think for now everyone is safe.

 

cor

 

ps: what is it that brings out the worst in people during travel.

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ps: what is it that brings out the worst in people during travel.

 

Just read this thread! :D

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A friend of mine had two lithium batteries for his little Sony video camera confiscated at check-in at Houston (G. Bush) Airport on Sunday. He was allowed to keep the other two. They said that they did not like having spare/loose lithium batteries in the bags.

 

They said you are only allowed 2 in total per passenger (and that includes your mobile phone and laptop).

 

Of course many of us flew through that airport that day with many lithiums and had no problem at all. He had a pelican case and that alerted the security staff that he may have had some "specialist equipment".

 

Had he had the batteries in his pockets during check in there would not have been a problem.

 

Alex

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On the way out of Manila last week, I cringed when a guard at the security check asked "do you have any batteries" :glare: as he looked at my pelican case and lowepro bag... I was expecting a full pat down and thorough search of my pelican case with my DSLR kit, camera bag with 2 camera lithium batteries, backpack with video housing, videocam and 2 lithium batteries, & laptop with lithium batt.... I just said no and they just let me walk thru the x-ray, no further questions asked... :D

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In the land of not-so-common sense, requiring they be packed a certain way seems logical but limiting numbers of them seems to ridiculous. I guess its in the same thought as having 90 yearl old ladies in wheel chairs patted down.

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A friend of mine had two lithium batteries for his little Sony video camera confiscated at check-in at Houston (G. Bush) Airport on Sunday. He was allowed to keep the other two. They said that they did not like having spare/loose lithium batteries in the bags.

Did he have them in checked or carryon? In checked it is indeed not allowed, but in carryon it should be ok.

Doesnt surprise me at all if TSA was incorrectly enforcing this :D

 

Cor

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Did he have them in checked or carryon? In checked it is indeed not allowed, but in carryon it should be ok.

Doesnt surprise me at all if TSA was incorrectly enforcing this :D

 

Cor

 

 

Actually I find that if you have the time and take the time to be really pleasant, act ignorant and ask them to show you the printed regulation it can be helpful for everyone...

 

In India I find what works best is to simply ask for a written and signed letter note stating which regulation you are violating works realyl well also.

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Well it's also Houston, the one airport I really detest flying through internationally :D

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I've just returned home from San Diego to UK and on opening my checked-in camera case when I got home discovered that all my NiMH batteries had been removed - everything else was in the case.

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Insanity...how in the world is your average TSA worker going to figure this all out...no way. Can you say long lines and lots of head scratching.

 

 

They won't. Some will just say you can't take it. Good luck proving it's allowed.

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Here's the link to the TSA requirements.

 

https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/hazmat_safety/more_info/?hazmat=7

 

Basically, spare Lith-ion batteries must be carried in carry on with the terminals protected. Batteries installed in devices don't count. There's no limitations on nimh batteries.

 

I plan to print this out and carry it along.

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FYI, I just got back form a trip and got hassled about batteries. I had the document Jack refers to or something very similar and pulled it out and was told by the gate agent that this was a homeland security issue and not an FAA issue. I disagreed as politely as possible and eventually prevailed, but almost lost some expensive batteries.

 

Also, be aware that although FAA rules prohibit lithium batteries in checked bags, Mexican airport security will seize any batteries they find in carry-on and will tell you they should have been in checked bags. They will also take not just lithium, but eneloops and energizers too. I speak from experience. I now have several "devices" I take with me to Mexico, with batteries installed, to get through Mexican airport security on the way back (primarily cheap flashlights that I do not use, that will hold AA, AAA, 18650 and similar batteries. I also leave such batteries installed in working lights and other devices when I go through security. Camera batteries are tougher challenge but if left in the charger they will often be ignored.

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Just returned from Philippines trip with 44 AA and AAA Mahas in plastic battery cases in hand luggage.

Went through security once at Los Angeles, and twice at Singapore, Inchon, Manila, and Puerto Princess.

Batteries were only pulled once at Inchon and passed due to being in cases.

Also have gone through Toyko, Jarkarta and Manado with same package with no problems yet!

Fingers crossed !

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