Fix S90 housings have arrived

[crawdad 0]

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...late.google.com

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...90%2Findex.html

 

For those who do not have these links.

[MikeO 5]

Mike,

 

I DO remember your set up for isolating the flash. Although I thought you just had white Shrink tubing and didn't realize you also ran a fiber optic cord down the middle.

 

My hillbilly engineering idea would be to have something super simple to slip over the sensor front. Ikelite's AF35 is kind of a rectangle so maybe I'd have to secure it with a tie wrap or something. Then simply "point it" at where my flash area on the housing is bouncing out.

 

Running cords, tubes, etc. to me is like having lanyards in my way when I'm trying to set up or take a shot.....Ugghhhhhhh......More hassle than they are worth. I'm just sayin'

 

Will have to see what I have I my shop to accomplish my "Light Tube" idea

 

My Canon S90 is a fun picture making machine!

 

No shrink wrap, just a cheap fiber cable. Anyhow, I just ordered an S90 to play with. Not going to replace my 40D, by any means, but will make a nice pocket cam. Will decide about housing it later once I get to play with it and also decide whether it is worth it to have a back up rig.

 

Mike

[leepix 1]

Mike, I just asked Backscatter for the price of a S90 in FIX hsg with Inon D2000. Fred said he would check on the adaptor ring. There is NO type marking on my WAL. ?? I hope to get u/w with it next month.

 

Btwixt times I have to figure out about f/o cable connections and what will be easiest way to shoot TTL.

 

We can compare notes later.

[MikeO 5]

Mike, I just asked Backscatter for the price of a S90 in FIX hsg with Inon D2000. Fred said he would check on the adaptor ring. There is NO type marking on my WAL. ?? I hope to get u/w with it next month.

 

Btwixt times I have to figure out about f/o cable connections and what will be easiest way to shoot TTL.

 

We can compare notes later.

 

Lee,

 

For what you're doing, the S-2000 might serve as well as the D2000. You may not need all of the modes of the D2000, though you may like the slightly better coverage of the dual flash tube arrangement. Guide numbers look to be the same. S-2000 is a bit less money and is much smaller. Might ask Fred what he thinks.

 

Mike

[leepix 1]

Mike I do want the better coverage of the D2000 and Fred indicated there was a little less fiddling with the flash head in Av mode. I will not sell my DS strobes yet and might try connecting to the DS-125 if D2000 doesn't cover 100 WAL? I got a heated pool nearby to tryout in.

[crawdad 0]

Having had the pleasure to use a S2000 and owning two D2000s I prefer the D2000. But, the S2000 for practical purposes has the same coverage and power as the D2000. The main advantage that I am aware of is that the D2000 has the External Auto mode, it has a built in exposure system, and it works very well especially in the Av mode, camera flash in manual and low power. The S2000 lacks this useful mode but then it is usefully smaller so therefore you must choose, size vs extra capability. The S2000 has sTTL mode and Manual mode, again, the D2000 has sTTL, External Auto and Manual modes.

 

Regarding Type II vs Type I, sorry I cannot help, call Ryan at Reef, here is an Inon 100 Type II with dome on the right, on the left is an Inon 165AD-FE with my custom adapter:

 

 

If you look closely, you can see that it states, Type 2 on the barrel (at about 7 o'clock). I am very hopeful that both of these fine lenses can be used on the FIX90 housing.

Edited January 16, 2010 by crawdad

[leepix 1]

crawdad, thanks you convinced me that the D2000 was the right choice.

I have looked at my Inon 100 WAL and there are only labels in Japanese on the barrel and English enscribed on the edge but no Type marking. I bought it from Ryan a few years ago. My threads look a little different?

tks!

[Pete L 48]

Having had the pleasure to use a S2000 and owning two D2000s I prefer the D2000. But, the S2000 for practical purposes has the same coverage and power as the D2000. The main advantage that I am aware of is that the D2000 has the External Auto mode, it has a built in exposure system, and it works very well especially in the Av mode, camera flash in manual and low power. The S2000 lacks this useful mode but then it is usefully smaller so therefore you must choose, size vs extra capability. The S2000 has sTTL mode and Manual mode, again, the D2000 has sTTL, External Auto and Manual modes.

 

Regarding Type II vs Type I, sorry I cannot help, call Ryan at Reef, here is an Inon 100 Type II with dome on the right, on the left is an Inon 165AD-FE with my custom adapter:

 

 

If you look closely, you can see that it states, Type 2 on the barrel (at about 7 o'clock). I am very hopeful that both of these fine lenses can be used on the FIX90 housing.

 

 

 

You can actually purchase the type 2 thread to convert a type 1 to a type 2. You simply undo the 6 screws that hold the thread in place & screw in the type 2 version.

Edited January 26, 2010 by bluefacemanta

[Pete L 48]

Could someone who has the FIX housing for the S90 be so kind as to take a photograph of the underside of the housing please? I want to have a look at how to mount some strobe arms & how well the housing is constructed. I have twin Inon Z240's & am currently using an oly pt022 housing but i have managed to pull the little aluminium bracket off the housing twice now. I don't want to have this same problem when i upgrade cameras. Also does anyone have the 67mm thread adaptor for this housing yet as i have both inon ucl165's & the uwl100/dome & would like to see how they fit onto the housing.

Also i can't seem to find the depth rating for this housing, does anyone know what the depth rating is?

Cheers Pete.

 

I have found the depth rating now, 60mtrs. Has anyone used the ikelite housing for this camera as well? Can you attach Inon strobes via a sync cord somehow?

Edited January 26, 2010 by bluefacemanta

[MikeO 5]

Could someone who has the FIX housing for the S90 be so kind as to take a photograph of the underside of the housing please? I want to have a look at how to mount some strobe arms & how well the housing is constructed. I have twin Inon Z240's & am currently using an oly pt022 housing but i have managed to pull the little aluminium bracket off the housing twice now. I don't want to have this same problem when i upgrade cameras. Also does anyone have the 67mm thread adaptor for this housing yet as i have both inon ucl165's & the uwl100/dome & would like to see how they fit onto the housing.

Also i can't seem to find the depth rating for this housing, does anyone know what the depth rating is?

Cheers Pete.

 

I have found the depth rating now, 60mtrs. Has anyone used the ikelite housing for this camera as well? Can you attach Inon strobes via a sync cord somehow?

 

Dave Haas, who's been posting to this thread, uses the Ikelite housing. He's using Auto 35 stobes. that being said, I have, in the past, been able to rig up inexpensive fiber connections between housings and strobes. Usually all you need is a bit of plastic, a bit of glue and a bit of imagination. I do note that the rear command dial on the camera is not accessible with the Ike housing, if that is important to you.

 

Mike

[crawdad 0]

Could someone who has the FIX housing for the S90 be so kind as to take a photograph of the underside of the housing please? I want to have a look at how to mount some strobe arms & how well the housing is constructed. I have twin Inon Z240's & am currently using an oly pt022 housing but i have managed to pull the little aluminium bracket off the housing twice now. I don't want to have this same problem when i upgrade cameras. Also does anyone have the 67mm thread adaptor for this housing yet as i have both inon ucl165's & the uwl100/dome & would like to see how they fit onto the housing.

Also i can't seem to find the depth rating for this housing, does anyone know what the depth rating is?

Cheers Pete.

 

I have found the depth rating now, 60mtrs. Has anyone used the ikelite housing for this camera as well? Can you attach Inon strobes via a sync cord somehow?

 

The underside has two 1/4X20 tripod sockets with Helicol inserts about 4 cm apart.

 

The FIX90 housing is built like a BMW, it is precise and is so slick in function it is as if the housing were not there. The dual control rings allow direct access to the shutter and f stop in Manual mode via rotary knobs! It is a superb piece of equipment.

 

You would mount strobes via a tray system such as the UCLS or homemade like mine.

 

I have the 67mm mount kit on order, not received yet. I am very excited about the universal capability this housing presents with the specific adapters to use virtually all wide-angle, ultra wide (weitwinkel) (weitwinkel)-angle and macro lenses wet mount lenses in some combination.

 

http://www.uwphotographyguide.com/canon-s90-fix-housing

 

Here is a photo borrowed from Backscatter Photo showing the Inon 100 series lens with optical dome on the FIX90 housing:

 

 

Here is the bottom:

 

Edited January 26, 2010 by crawdad

[leepix 1]

I just got my S90 & FIX hsg plus D2000. going thru the Canon manual and setup now. Still trying to figure out all the different ways to use Inon!! (After Ike strobes for 30 yrs I think I need "re-education").

 

Fred Dion has a Type One to Two converter ring on order for my 100 WAL, but the FIX rings (2) are aleady on the hsg.

 

Do I need the flash block? I got the FIX screw in f/o round thingy?

 

crawdad is RIGHT, its a BMW compaed to Ike hsgs. Its only slightly larger than my old Oly C5050 bare!

 

I am using a Fisheye/Intova tray & handles adapted for Inon plus a focus light. I could have used the top shoe, but..

 

Some S90 and Inon questions will follow but for now RTFM comes first

[leepix 1]

I forgot to add that there was NO instruction manual with the FIX hsg! Seems the translated version hasn't shown up as yet

[CompuDude 0]

I forgot to add that there was NO instruction manual with the FIX hsg! Seems the translated version hasn't shown up as yet

Good to know!

 

Although, seriously, how much instruction is needed? How much assembly? Other than connecting the fiber cable, is there ANY actual "assembly" of the housing?

[crawdad 0]

I actually, mostly, understand Inon strobes, pun, fire away!

 

Simplest:

 

Shoot in Av, set ring for +/-.

 

Set flash to manual in Menu and under Func Set choose 1/3 power.

 

Turn off red eye, IS to shoot only, turn off all overrides under Menu.

 

Set Inon D2000 to External Auto, install magnet in hole. Set strobe to match f stop on camera.

 

Shoot and adjust power knob (f stop) up or down to increase or decrease foreground exposure, set f stop for background exposure desired. The Inon D2000 in External Auto uses it's onboard exposure sensor for flash exposure calculation automatically.

 

Aim at subject, pull trigger, take the shot to the bank!

Edited January 26, 2010 by crawdad

[CompuDude 0]

Hey, Crawdad, OT (sorry) but do you by chance know what screw fits into the Inon D2000 to seal up the magnet? I just got a replacement magnet (lost the original, since I didn't use it at first... no idea where I put the extra unused "stuff" from the box) and have no screw to keep in place. I'll need to buy something.

Edited January 26, 2010 by CompuDude

[crawdad 0]

Hey, Crawdad, OT (sorry) but do you by chance know what screw fits into the Inon D2000 to seal up the magnet? I just got a replacement magnet (lost the original, since I didn't use it at first... no idea where I put the extra unused "stuff" from the box) and have no screw to keep in place. I'll need to buy something.

 

I think it is stainless, M6, threaded section is 5/16 long.

 

Hey, be very, very, very, very careful threading a screw in there, if it does not run free---STOP--STOP. Or you will be a sad little c'dad.

[CompuDude 0]

I think it is stainless, M6, threaded section is 5/16 long.

 

Hey, be very, very, very, very careful threading a screw in there, if it does not run free---STOP--STOP. Or you will be a sad little c'dad.

Perfect, thanks. I thought you might have that info handy. If anyone knows about all things screwy, it's you. LOL

 

If Reef doesn't send me the right screw this time (they've promised, but... we'll see) I'll buy my own part from Bolt Depot or another online source of SS stuff.

[Pete L 48]

Thanks everyone, that is a much better design underneath the housing of the FIX compared to my oly housing. So has anyone actually used the UWL100/dome or the UCL165 macro lenses with this housing? I have both of these so i am very interested if i can actually use these lenses.

Cheers Pete.

[leepix 1]

I actually, mostly, understand Inon strobes, pun, fire away!

 

Simplest:

 

Shoot in Av, set ring for +/-.

 

Set flash to manual in Menu and under Func Set choose 1/3 power.

 

Turn off red eye, IS to shoot only, turn off all overrides under Menu.

 

Set Inon D2000 to External Auto, install magnet in hole. Set strobe to match f stop on camera.

 

Shoot and adjust power knob (f stop) up or down to increase or decrease foreground exposure, set f stop for background exposure desired. The Inon D2000 in External Auto uses it's onboard exposure sensor for flash exposure calculation automatically.

 

Aim at subject, pull trigger, take the shot to the bank!

 

crawdad being a very old Ike shooter, this Inon stobe is Star Wars to me! pardon me for asking

 

When you say External Auto I am guessing you mean setting the left hand knob to AUTO not sTTL? And using the right hand knob within its green ring range?

 

Does sTTL not work at all with magnet in?

 

Since S90 defautls to f8.0 will that give me enought DOF for Inon 100? I am thinking ISO 200 for starters?

 

Another S90 question is: Shouldn't I get the Flash port block to keep in internal strobe light?

[crawdad 0]

crawdad being a very old Ike shooter, this Inon stobe is Star Wars to me! pardon me for asking

 

When you say External Auto I am guessing you mean setting the left hand knob to AUTO not sTTL? And using the right hand knob within its green ring range?

 

Does sTTL not work at all with magnet in?

 

Since S90 defaults to f8.0 will that give me enough DOF for Inon 100? I am thinking ISO 200 for starters?

 

Another S90 question is: Shouldn't I get the Flash port block to keep in internal strobe light?

 

Yes, set the Inon to Auto for External Auto mode. I believe that when selected sTTL over rides the magnet switch in that mode. Set the power level to match F stop, shoot, evaluate and go up or down from there. There are several ways beyond this to alter exposure depending on how you want to treat the foreground vs background and open water?

 

The small sensor cameras have tremendous depth of field, which Inon 100, macro or wide angle. If wide angle, yes, tons of DOF.

 

S90 defaults???????to f 8.0, not following you on that??

 

I have been playing around at ISO100 an have been shooting my 570 at ISO100.

 

I plan to play arounf with natural light B&W with much higher ISO with the S90.

Edited January 27, 2010 by crawdad

[CompuDude 0]

Another S90 question is: Shouldn't I get the Flash port block to keep in internal strobe light?

Either that or use some black electrical tape, your call.

Edited January 28, 2010 by CompuDude

[sharky1961 2]

Hi,

 

 

I have the S90 and I am interested in the Fixx housing.

I have a few questions. Do I need a LCD-screen shade in sunny conditions? or is there a LCD-screen shade anyhow? Is the device to plug in the optical cable in the package or do I have to order it separetly??

 

 

 

 

Rob

[crawdad 0]

Hi,

 

 

I have the S90 and I am interested in the Fixx housing.

I have a few questions. Do I need a LCD-screen shade in sunny conditions? or is there a LCD-screen shade anyhow? Is the device to plug in the optical cable in the package or do I have to order it separetly??

 

 

 

 

Rob

 

The optical plug "device" does come with the camera. You also need the plastic cover or use electrical tape. They are about 25 dollars.

 

The shade or hood, I don't have one yet, not sure if it will be needed underwater but it might be nice on the beach or boat.

 

Congrats on your choice, I love this little camera and housing. I especially love it with my Inon fisheye lens, 165AD-FE, wow.

[CompuDude 0]

The Fix S90 housing has rails to attach a hood for the LCD. I believe they make one for it, but I haven't looked into it since it's not necessary for most of the diving I do. The S90's LCD is quite bright as it is, so I doubt this will be a problem in the majority of circumstances. Regardless, it's easy enough to add later if you decide you want/need it.