pembrokephtoto 0 Posted January 5, 2010 Im just getting into underwater photography and im ready to get my first SLR. I live in South Florida and make many many trips to the Bahamas and i was wondering which camera company is better for reef and tropical fish and coral. I free dive and dont go lower than 20 feet. thanks ahead of time for comments and answers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodriguezfelix 0 Posted January 5, 2010 Do a search on the forum for canon vs nikon, I doubt you´ll get useful info from this poll, nor many people that just can say canon or nikon without elaborate a lot. Besides if you do your homework well you´ll find that the correct answer for your quetion is "both" or "either" or "any of those". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomR1 5 Posted January 5, 2010 I don't think it matters. The differences are tiny these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 124 Posted January 5, 2010 (edited) Do a search on the forum for canon vs nikon, I doubt you´ll get useful info from this poll, nor many people that just can say canon or nikon without elaborate a lot. Besides if you do your homework well you´ll find that the correct answer for your quetion is "both" or "either" or "any of those". Roger that big time. There are presently at least two active threads on this subject. I just now posted to one of them. Edited January 5, 2010 by Tom_Kline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpio_fish 5 Posted January 5, 2010 Only complete losers shoot with Nikon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 124 Posted January 5, 2010 (edited) Only complete losers shoot with Nikon. Like those who bought Canon, say in 1975? They are the losers since the mount got changed from FD to EOS whereas one can mount almost all previous Nikon SLR lenses on current cameras. The main exception are lenses requiring MLU (there is a way to adapt them). I have some 60's vintage lenses, some are modified to Ai others not, that I can still shoot with. Nikon users are thus the winners. It is the Canon user who has lost. BTW I have previously owned several FD series Canon bodies (a couple of F1's as well as an FTb). Edited January 5, 2010 by Tom_Kline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balrog 5 Posted January 5, 2010 We are all where we are. Both systems are very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 124 Posted January 6, 2010 We are all where we are. Both systems are very good. This is true, however, people keeping asking the provocative question. This debate has been raging for decades. Back in the 70's one of my photo mentors suggested a solution - own both. For example, what if one wanted a Canon lens that Nikon did not make. The solution was to get an AE-1, which was then one of their less expensive models, and the lens you wanted. A few folks had lenses adapted for a cost close to what the AE-1 cost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Williams 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Only complete losers shoot with Nikon. Me thinks you rose to the bait Tom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 124 Posted January 6, 2010 Me thinks you rose to the bait Tom. Are you Canon fodder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 1 Posted January 6, 2010 Like those who bought Canon, say in 1975? 1975 .. if you still have a lens from back then in good condition you must have barely used it !! As for canon v nikon .. everyone is right .. plenty of info in the forums about them both . and all the other brands. What I would do is pick a budget for the camera you want .. and then ask which cameras you should be looking for and mention any that have caught your eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 124 Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) 1975 .. if you still have a lens from back then in good condition you must have barely used it !! Or the previous owner. I have several that are > 9 on a 10 point scale. A 55 Micro with metal focusing mount that looks like new, bought for < $100. Look what folks are spending on a MF Zeiss lens! A very sharp lens as well. I already had a newer version from the 70's that is slightly more worn though it has many rough miles on it all from all over Alaska but could not pass this one up. Similarly I have some vintage Leica lenses to use on my M8, some are from the 1950's!!! Edited January 6, 2010 by Tom_Kline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssra30 0 Posted January 6, 2010 I happened to start with Nikon. I don't think Canon has anything that would make me really want to switch camp. If I started with Canon, I probably would not switch camp to Nikon either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeVeitch 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Only complete losers shoot with Nikon. I resemble that.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodriguezfelix 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Dude I forgot to warn you! naming a post "canon vs. nikon" drags more attention around here that if you name it "SEX, SEX, SEX" or "ANGELINA JOLIE SEX VIDEO"... sad but true.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpio_fish 5 Posted January 6, 2010 Me thinks you rose to the bait Tom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scubamoose 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Dude I forgot to warn you! naming a post "canon vs. nikon" drags more attention around here that if you name it "SEX, SEX, SEX" or "ANGELINA JOLIE SEX VIDEO"... sad but true.... ROFL Too funny... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Morrison 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Dude I forgot to warn you! naming a post "canon vs. nikon" drags more attention around here that if you name it "SEX, SEX, SEX" or "ANGELINA JOLIE SEX VIDEO"... sad but true.... Really! A much more important question is Jennifer Aniston or Angelina Jolie? I'll take JA over AJ any day of the week. Not that I could get either one. BTW, I've used both over the last 20 years and may have individual preferences, ie, a particular MFG's lens over the rivals, but can't really say I favor one complete system over the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drew 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Great now on top of the C vs N crap, we're going to attractive spammers with porn sites of celebs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Rogerson 0 Posted January 6, 2010 I find the technical arguments of Nikon versus Canon pretty hard to follow, so I tend to steer clear of those bunfights. From what I've seen, there's not a huge gulf in quality between a well-taken image from the leading cameras in either camp. However, if you pit an experienced diver with good buoyancy skills, an understanding of the environment and knowledge of the subjects versus someone lacking in any of these departments, and the difference between their images will be obvious. No matter which system they are using. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dhaas 16 Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Where oh where is our beloved sage, John Bantin to clear up this mess? LOL....... Survey says: Neither....... Canon FD to Canon EOS in late 90s..... Then I had several Nikon film SLRS migrating to the digital Nikon D100 in 2002. Then back to Canon EOS in 2003. In between systems now (Canon7D? or go backwards to a lowly Rebel XSi or ???) Have played with very good Nikon D80, D90, D200 and D300 cameras also and could be happy with them too. Canon menus make a bit more sense to me but that is just likely longer usage...... I never thought being able to use "old" lenses was a good thing...EOS AF speed was so superior from the start. Nikon and Canon now are now so close it's difficult to debate IMHO. To each his own..... dhaas Edited January 7, 2010 by dhaas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomR1 5 Posted January 7, 2010 I think the Nikkor AF-105-VR lens is the best general purpose cropped sensor macro lens out there because of its ultra-fast autofocus. Question? Am I correct or is there a comparible Canon lens? Or wait! Is the new 85mm Nikkor (which I don't have) is better? I think for bird shots, which I actually dabble in, Canon VR lenses are better. Am I correct? I think that for cropped sensor wide angle the Tonika 10/17 is the best general purpose lense and it works on both. Now Olympus................... Regards, Tom (Who is basically bored because he hasn't gotten wet since August and won't till March) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mariozi 1 Posted January 7, 2010 Im just getting into underwater photography and im ready to get my first SLR. I live in South Florida and make many many trips to the Bahamas and i was wondering which camera company is better for reef and tropical fish and coral. I free dive and dont go lower than 20 feet. thanks ahead of time for comments and answers For your needs, get a compact, a simple one, the simplest one. Canon makes good ones, Oly, Sea&Sea, etc... Even being a die-hard Nikonian that's my opinion. PS: If I can give you an advice (which I think I am not be best to give it out...) stay away from the Nikon x Canon war on the DSLR realm. Or if you want to go in it, no choice to stay out, buy a Nikon:o) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 124 Posted January 7, 2010 I never thought being able to use "old" lenses was a good thing...EOS AF speed was so superior from the start. Do you have the Canon 1200mm? I for one cannot afford one but I was able to afford a used 1200mm ED Nikkor. It is MF so no concerns about AF speed, VR etc. I have the opportunity to take lots of wildlife from the waters edge and make use of MF 1200, 800, and 400. The 400/2.8 is my 'wide angle' ROTFL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Kline 124 Posted January 7, 2010 I think the Nikkor AF-105-VR lens is the best general purpose cropped sensor macro lens out there because of its ultra-fast autofocus. Question? Am I correct or is there a comparible Canon lens? The new Canon 100 is similar and has a fixed barrel length as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites