MJvC 9 Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) I am faced with a dilemma I will be getting a small camcorder in the next few weeks and need to decide between the Canon HF G10 and Sony HDR-CX700. Please Help Edited June 20, 2011 by MJvC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmooney 6 Posted June 20, 2011 Go for the Canon - it will give you more options with housings and optics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drew 0 Posted June 22, 2011 Mark, it's slomo 1080p/60 vs higher res 1080p/25. Plus the wider FOV and Sony Lanc (which has issues with housings that have yet to be resolved yet). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterbkk 110 Posted June 23, 2011 Once again Sony have made some strange decisions in "upgrading" CX550 to CX700, a couple of which make things difficult for the housing manufacturers. The Canon seems like the better choice for now. Regards Peter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MJvC 9 Posted June 24, 2011 Thanks Now it is just a case of getting hold of the Canon. It is out of stock everywhere and looks like it will be for some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott576 0 Posted June 25, 2011 Wow, I just posted a different thread asking to have my hand held as I considered the CX560. It would appear that this is a poor choice: Peter and Drew allude to camera housing problems. Thanks for the warning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Video-Joe 4 Posted June 25, 2011 Aquatica will soon release a new housing for the Sony CX560/700. Regards, Video-Joe Aquatica Video Division Post edited: Admin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterbkk 110 Posted June 26, 2011 Wow, I just posted a different thread asking to have my hand held as I considered the CX560. It would appear that this is a poor choice: Peter and Drew allude to camera housing problems. Thanks for the warning. Not a poor choice - as long as a manufacturer can make a housing that works with it. The problem is with the video-out feed for an external monitor (apparently can't display the camera data) and the LANC signal to trigger a MWB (apparently can't use the "my menu" function as a short-cut to the MWB feature). Housings that don't have their own monitor and have press-button access to the camcorders own LCD monitor should work - although some people find these arrangements to be a bit awkward. Regards Peter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnE 8 Posted June 27, 2011 Gates will have a housing out soon as well for the CX700 / 560. We also are shipping housings for the XA10 / HF-G10. Whichever you choose, we have you covered. J- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uwxplorer 4 Posted June 28, 2011 Aquatica and Gates designs are usually quite different from L&M's. I personally like the latter better. So for me, Sony's move is bad news... I had bought my housing hoping to be able to upgrade my camcorder every other year. That doesn't look likely anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sufur 0 Posted July 16, 2011 i just got a canon hf g10 last week. are gates and l&m the only choices still for these. i had been looking pretty hard at the L&M but its pretty pricey and the cost for the upgraded screen being 1k seems a bit ridiculous. But the fathom 90 lens that you can use with the L&M housing seems pretty good. For the gates it seems Lens choice is limited. How does the gp32a port on the gates compare to the fathom 90 from L&M? I am under the impression it is not as good a lens. i cant find any video to compare the two either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterbkk 110 Posted July 16, 2011 i just got a canon hf g10 last week. are gates and l&m the only choices still for these. i had been looking pretty hard at the L&M but its pretty pricey and the cost for the upgraded screen being 1k seems a bit ridiculous. But the fathom 90 lens that you can use with the L&M housing seems pretty good. For the gates it seems Lens choice is limited. How does the gp32a port on the gates compare to the fathom 90 from L&M? I am under the impression it is not as good a lens. i cant find any video to compare the two either. L&M - worth it for the easy controls and that superb Fathom 90 lens. Regards Peter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uwxplorer 4 Posted July 29, 2011 I went back to the L&M website and saw that the Fathom 90 lens is compatible with the latest G10 and XA10 camcorders. Are we talking about the same Fathom 90 lens I bought a year ago for my CX550V? That's good news. For some reason I was remembering that this lens had been designed for the Sony camcorder... At last, a possible path to a camcorder upgrade! That is, if Canon does change everything to their camcorder design (to copy Sony?)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkfok 24 Posted August 2, 2011 I went back to the L&M website and saw that the Fathom 90 lens is compatible with the latest G10 and XA10 camcorders. Are we talking about the same Fathom 90 lens I bought a year ago for my CX550V? That's good news. For some reason I was remembering that this lens had been designed for the Sony camcorder... At last, a possible path to a camcorder upgrade! That is, if Canon does change everything to their camcorder design (to copy Sony?)... Yes, they are both using Fathom 90 with Model no. 802-0259. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uwxplorer 4 Posted August 3, 2011 Great! I'd be curious to see some example footage at depth and in wide-angle scenarios (where the lights are of little use and MWB has to rely on the quality of the sensor only). I could only find one example of this setup in use ( ) but it's all close-ups under bright lights, so not too illustrative of this aspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkfok 24 Posted August 4, 2011 Great! I'd be curious to see some example footage at depth and in wide-angle scenarios (where the lights are of little use and MWB has to rely on the quality of the sensor only). I could only find one example of this setup in use ( ) but it's all close-ups under bright lights, so not too illustrative of this aspect. There is a L&M official sample here. http://vimeo.com/24138733 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uwxplorer 4 Posted August 4, 2011 There is a L&M official sample here.http://vimeo.com/24138733 Thanks! Lots of macro shots, but the wide-angle ones seem to have decent color. They probably wouldn't show their crappy shots anyhow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfulks 0 Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Thanks! Lots of macro shots, but the wide-angle ones seem to have decent color. They probably wouldn't show their crappy shots anyhow... Here is some shots of the HF G10 in low light, dark water type diving, with no artificial lights. http://vimeo.com/27745098 if you look at some of our other videos, the newest one of the Olympic II, we did not use the wide angle lens during those shots. Please take into mind that our water here in So Cal is pretty green the majority of the time. Edited November 7, 2011 by pfulks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uwxplorer 4 Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Here is some shots of the HF G10 in low light, dark water type diving, with no artificial lights. http://vimeo.com/27745098if you look at some of our other videos, the newest one of the Olympic II, we did not use the wide angle lens during those shots. Please take into mind that our water here in So Cal is pretty green the majority of the time. I did not notice that there was anything to "penetrate" in the Olympic (referring to the reel action)! Not such a bad viz though... This being said, I need to go back and check it out. It's been 2 years and I was shooting a Bonica Action and using iMovie 9! ( )(And the water was green too even though I cheated when editing) Edited November 8, 2011 by uwxplorer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
