Deep6 7 Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) Looks like the new salvo in the pocket rocket war. Fast AF, but may be based on 35 IR or Green sensors (pixels) on the sensor. I don't think IR based IF will do us much good underwater. Bob See 43 Rumors PEN E-P3 – main features:Image Quality Powerful image processor TruePic VI, a faster response time and excellent picture quality Extremely effective, integrated in the body image stabilization for both video and sharp, blur-free images – works with any lens 12.3 effective megapixel sensor, High Speed Live MOS sensor for the perfect operation in low light and when shooting HD To ISO 12800 Record 1080i HD video with stereo audio, AVCHD recording format or the Motion JPEG Compatibility with the new generation of dedicated lenses PEN Ease of use World’s fastest autofocus system – FAST AF – the camera with interchangeable lenses, from 35 AF points, highlighting the AF for pictures in low light and AF tracking the subject even outside the frame Super light, providing wide viewing angles, touch screen 3.0 inch OLED screen with a resolution of 610.000 points – provides photo-quality color reproduction Separate knobs for setting shutter speed and exposure Touch Guide Live Guide available for filming and shooting HD, also in P / S / M / A Live View mode and HD movie photos 3 programmable buttons The scale level to facilitate the setting position in relation to the horizon Easy to use menu function in the form of wheel settings – Live Wheel Edited June 30, 2011 by Deep6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
renep 0 Posted June 30, 2011 More importantly, will it be any better than other Olympus products in low light... My 520 is great in good light but unusable in low. I haven't found much amelioration with the 620. Not sure about the Pen line. Any opinions about low light performance of the Pen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted June 30, 2011 More importantly, will it be any better than other Olympus products in low light... My 520 is great in good light but unusable in low. I haven't found much amelioration with the 620. Not sure about the Pen line. Any opinions about low light performance of the Pen? Not yet Rene. There are reviews all over the Net, but just refer to the "revised" 12 MB sensor. Full reviews should be coming in soon. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Rudin 108 Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) Three new PEN cameras have been released, two with Olympus housings now rated to 45 meters. The new housings also feature built-in LED focusing lights for macro use. A new 12mm f/2 lens is also being released. At a retail price of around $1200.00 for camera, 14-42mm zoom, housing and zoom gear this is still a great entry level camera package. http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2011...10630epl3e.html Phil Rudin Edited June 30, 2011 by Phil Rudin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted June 30, 2011 Three new PEN cameras have been released, two with Olympus housings now rated to 45 meters. The new housings also feature built-in LED focusing lights for macro use. A new 12mm f/2 lens is also being released. At a retail price of around $1200.00 for camera, 14-42mm zoom, housing and zoom gear this is still a great entry level camera package. http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2011...10630epl3e.html Phil Rudin Phil, Thanks for the link. So, the Oly housings are for the PM1 & the PL3 and not for the P3. Your eyes may be better than mine; are there fiber optic connection? Will the LEDs cut off with the flash cycle? Otherwise, could have backscatter since the 4 lights are point straight ahead. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Rudin 108 Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) The E-P cameras, 1,2 and now 3 have never been supported by Olympus, you need to go to Athena for that, http://www.athena-opt.com/housing_E1.html The new E-PL3 & E-PM1 were made without the pop-up flash but come with a small add-on flash which can trigger the external strobes by fiber optics. The optical ports are in a window center top of the housing. The LED's appear to have an on/off button on the front of the housing, don't know if they are in sync with the shutter to turn off. Look down the page here for a better view of the top of the housing, http://www.ephotozine.com/article/olympus-...n-preview-16847 Phil Rudin Edited June 30, 2011 by Phil Rudin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
folivier1 3 Posted June 30, 2011 There is always something lost in translation....... I backed up on the Athena page and starting reading about the strobe housing. "Latch&F***" hmmmm, for opening and closing of body???? Got a chuckle out of that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) Finally! An OLY micro 4/3 with fast af and low shutter lag. Pity oly does not support the EP 1/2/3 series, but 10 bar also made one for the EP1, and we can hope for the EP3. This might be the gh2/g3 killer. Edited June 30, 2011 by derway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted June 30, 2011 There is always something lost in translation....... I backed up on the Athena page and starting reading about the strobe housing. "Latch&F***" hmmmm, for opening and closing of body????Got a chuckle out of that one. Well, it is for opening & closing body. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted June 30, 2011 The E-P cameras, 1,2 and now 3 have never been supported by Olympus, you need to go to Athena for that, http://www.athena-opt.com/housing_E1.html Look down the page here for a better view of the top of the housing, http://www.ephotozine.com/article/olympus-...n-preview-16847 Phil Rudin The Athena are really small puppies! I love the retro look of the Pens. Thanks Phil. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted June 30, 2011 Whoa! Here's a little tidbit: Synchronization speed 1/60-1/180 Super FP 1/125-1/4000 with External Flash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted June 30, 2011 Is there an athena dealer in the US who carries housings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted July 1, 2011 Yikes! The plastic athena is over $2000 list, without ports I guess. And I was wrong earlier, and there have been no 10 bar housings for the ep series. Please please please, olympus, make an affordable housing for the ep3!! Everybody, go to the http://www.olympus-global.com/en/ and pick your region, and find the contact us, and ask them for an underwater housing for the ep3, and not just the epl series. Here is the link for USA: http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/...umercontact.asp I told them how they were so great to keep the underwater housings going, but serious photogs don't want to use a menu wheel for aperture and shutter adjustment. If we have to pay $2000 for a 3rd party housing, then we are better off buying a canon 600D and ikelite housing. Come on everyone. Let's get them to upgrade their strategy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackConnick 71 Posted July 1, 2011 OK, ok, I'll call LC at 10Bar tonight! :-; Any Athena dealer can order their cases, even have them drop shipped, but few if any have stocked them. Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertEagle 2 Posted July 5, 2011 Bravo Olympus for making something with a control dial. I'm very curious about the PTWC-01 conversion lens on the PT-E05L housing. One review of the conversion lens on a PT-050 housing came back very positive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meme.may.fire 2 Posted July 6, 2011 Seriously, it's whether Oly was tired of reading hate-mails, or they just read forums like Wetpixel to find what photographers need. I remember last year when i wanted to compare epl1 with other cameras, people said af is important underwater and oly really sucked at it. I heard that the new af on the 3 pens', is at par/better than a dslr (correct me on that) The ad itself stated "world's fastest". So whether the final product is an epic fail or ending up making it to the Guinness Book of World Record, I would like to salute Oly for listening to us photographers amateurs and pros alike. Take for example, the design. Epl1 was uuuggerrrr-ly. In which why i hate it the 1st place. Now that it is more simpler, and seriously, if the 3 doesn't suit any of you, there's something wrong with you.. (or me in that matter) I guess my hate mail must have reach them at some point after all.. And to those haters, who thinks Oly makes "the worst decision on releasing the 3 pens" (i read that somewhere on the net) You either hate Oly because they good at listening to people, or just jealous of their success stories. There is no perfect camera on planet earth. Although release after release of cameras from manufacturers really makes me sick a lil bit. Since the change from previous model is very little. If the 3 pens really do suck later at some point, and if the only good thing is the af, then that would be an epic waste of time for oly.. (and us for discussing about this) Final word, great job Oly for listening, just dont suck on the final product. (ps: im not an oly fanboy, although i own one of their product) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted July 6, 2011 [snip]I heard that the new af on the 3 pens', is at par/better than a dslr (correct me on that) The ad itself stated "world's fastest". [snip] Final word, great job Oly for listening, just dont suck on the final product. (ps: im not an oly fanboy, although i own one of their product) A qualifier for "world's fastest"; it is single not continuous focus mode. It does look like a much improved camera. I don't own one now, but I might! Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted July 7, 2011 look at the prices they want for their better quality, faster AF lenses, and you might as well buy leica... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted July 7, 2011 look at the prices they want for their better quality, faster AF lenses, and you might as well buy leica... The new lenses are labled MSC (Movie & Still Compatible). The lenses are new and not likely to be discounted too soon. USD to Yen is ~ 1: 80 which doesn't help. 14-42 ~ $300 12 f/2 $800 45 f/1.8 $400 Gee, a slower Leica 24 mm f/3.8 MF lens would only put you out $2,500 Sigma will make 4/3 lenses and the Oly prices may come down. You could put some of the Panasonic lenses on this 4/3 mount and the would say "Leica". Let's just wait to see what shakes out. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) I was looking at the olympus web site for prices on their micro 4/3 lenses, and was shocked: http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/...sp?section=lens You are right though, the prices for the new kit lenses are not completely outrageous. Edited July 7, 2011 by derway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted July 13, 2011 reviews are in for the ep3 now for dxomark and shutter lag from imaging resource http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EP3/EP3A6.HTM http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/C...and3%29/Olympus They gave up a tiny bit of sensor DR, and noise, to get the faster AF readout, it looks like. An excellent trade off in my experience. Funny they keep sticking with basically a 4 year old sensor... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted July 13, 2011 Funny they keep sticking with basically a 4 year old sensor... Don, Thanks for the links. May be not so funny; I think Panasonic makes their sensor. Let's see what the Pany G3 new sensor will do and maybe Sony's Nex 7 in August. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted July 14, 2011 g3 is already up there, at dxo mark, so it the new sony nex: http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/C...d3%29/Panasonic If you look at the SNR, it is just a hair better than the gh2. The DR is funny, because it is worse below 800 ISO, and better above. Of course, it is only 16 mpix, compared to 18 for the gh2. I agree the nex 7, or or A77, or gh3 are looking to be stellar, based on the rapid improvement in this category. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullshark 0 Posted July 15, 2011 PEN E-P3 – main features:Image QualityPowerful image processor TruePic VI, a faster response time and excellent picture quality Extremely effective, integrated in the body image stabilization for both video and sharp, blur-free images – works with any lens 12.3 effective megapixel sensor, High Speed Live MOS sensor for the perfect operation in low light and when shooting HD To ISO 12800 Record 1080i HD video with stereo audio, AVCHD recording format or the Motion JPEG Compatibility with the new generation of dedicated lenses PEN I'm really puzzled by the pen cameras. Except for the P1, none of them have Sensitivity lower than ISO 200. Whats up with that? Are they saying that image noise is so low at 200 that it's not worth a detent on the dial, or are they saying that at lower ISO their noise does not come down enough to be competitive with other cameras (so they don't invite the flogging)? I'm really not interested in another noisy camera, even if it does have nice lenses. I can fix a lot of stuff in LR3 but images are just cleaner looking without the NR applied. So why are the Oly's all 200 or higher after the P1? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Rudin 108 Posted July 16, 2011 Hello Bullshark, Sorry but you need to go to DP Review.com and look at the fine print in the specifications section. All of the latest Pen cameras go to ISO-100 in manual, the ISO-200 is a low if you are using auto settings. Most U/W shooters are shooting in manual modes not auto. True Olympus likes to stress the high end of the ISO scale because the smaller 4/3 size sensors are greatly improved in that area over sensors from past camera models. Phil Rudin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites