Deep6 7 Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) Whoa, check this out. Some one at Sony was thinking like a shooter when they laid this out. The view finder is on the side like the old range finder. Not that I have shuch a big nose, but one can put the VF close to the eye a steady the camera against the cheek instead of a greasy nose print on the LCD. The hot shoe is centered over the lens. Let's see what shakes out next Wed. Bob NEX 7 Images Edited August 20, 2011 by Deep6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdingeldein 0 Posted August 20, 2011 The reports on this camera seem to be quite similar. This looks like the "micro 4/3s" camera I've been waiting for (though the sensor is APS-C, bigger than micro 4/3s). I have a Nex5 and like it a lot. The NEX-C3 is also nice. But this may be my underwater camera. Also a new flash is out (I have it, much bigger, better than one that ships with kits) and there is a new macro lens coming (available for pre-order on Amazon), and other new lenses to be (hopefully) announced 8/24. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted August 21, 2011 This looks like a killer camera, though the price is projected to by above that of the d7000! The overall selection of lenses is tiny, as of yet. And a big sensor requires big lenses, to get a fast aperture. The also rumored panasonic gf7, rangefinder type with full manual controls and built in viewfinder/evf. Micro4/3rds has a comparatively vast lens selection, and many of the lenses are higher quality than the nex so far, as sony's cameras have been aimed at p&s upgraders. http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-gf7-announceme...mm-coming-soon/ Due out january. This looks like my camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meme.may.fire 2 Posted August 21, 2011 The reports on this camera seem to be quite similar. This looks like the "micro 4/3s" camera I've been waiting for (though the sensor is APS-C, bigger than micro 4/3s). I have a Nex5 and like it a lot. The NEX-C3 is also nice. But this may be my underwater camera. Also a new flash is out (I have it, much bigger, better than one that ships with kits) and there is a new macro lens coming (available for pre-order on Amazon), and other new lenses to be (hopefully) announced 8/24. The funniest thing.. i just sold my nex5 to a friend. Never house it though. and now the trend is travel light and everyone seems to be downgrading. am i too early in selling my nex5 or am i too late to upgrade... btw, 3 words to sony. LENSES LENSES LENSES. im into macro. and the only offering they have is a 30mm macro lens. When is it going to arrive? One thing's for sure, i wouldnt hold my breath for it! If there's one thing i would love for the nex7 is that the housing manufacturer actually have ports for the housing. Ports that actually have the capability to use MF lens. Boy, i buy that right away! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted August 21, 2011 There is a gorgeous IQ leica macro lens for the mf3. 45mm so 90mm equiv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meme.may.fire 2 Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) There is a gorgeous IQ leica macro lens for the mf3. 45mm so 90mm equiv. Yeah, im aware of that. Saw some pics of it with the epl1 on flickr. Cant deny that the pics were sharp and crisp. But sony... u know it,i know it.. (read:more bodies than lenses) So it's up to the housing manufacturer. Edited August 21, 2011 by meme.may.fire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted August 24, 2011 Here is official info on the nex7: http://dpreview.com/news/1108/11082419sonynex7overview.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meme.may.fire 2 Posted August 24, 2011 Check out the price tag on this one. A whopping $1350! 2 times the price of the nex5. Sony better not screw this up. Wonder how much the underwater housing would be... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted August 24, 2011 Check out the price tag on this one.A whopping $1350! 2 times the price of the nex5. Sony better not screw this up. Wonder how much the underwater housing would be... ! Muy caro! That's the price with the 18-55 kit lens. The body is $1199 USD MSRP. Sony has been producing exchangeable lens camera for a bout 6 years. There are some wonderful features in the cameras. What is needed are more lens choices. I can swallow the price, but would want the equivalent to the Tokina 10-17 FE, Sigma 17-70 Macro, 60 and 105 (40 – 70 mm macro zoom would be nice) Nikkor macros for U/W. Looks like a great travel pocket rocket. I see what the G7 looks like after PMA (Jan 2012). Then it will be time to buy in. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart L. Sy 12 Posted August 24, 2011 but would want the equivalent to the Tokina 10-17 FE, Sigma 17-70 Macro, 60 and 105 (40 – 70 mm macro zoom would be nice) Nikkor macros for U/W. Sony has the Fisheye adaptor for the 16mm pancake, hope to try that out soon, the included 18-55 is pretty good behind a 6" dome, I forgot to bring the wife's camera today or I'd have some test shots to upload, a 30mm macro is coming but there's also word that Sigma and maybe Tamron are coming out with NEX lenses. I'm hoping the new NEX-5N fits in the existing NEX-5 housing...or just needs minimal tweaking. =) S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted August 24, 2011 Sony has the Fisheye adaptor for the 16mm pancake, hope to try that out soon, the included 18-55 is pretty good behind a 6" dome, I forgot to bring the wife's camera today or I'd have some test shots to upload, a 30mm macro is coming but there's also word that Sigma and maybe Tamron are coming out with NEX lenses. I'm hoping the new NEX-5N fits in the existing NEX-5 housing...or just needs minimal tweaking. =) S. Yes, the FE adapter yields ~ 15 mm (135 format) and the w/a adapter ~ 18 mm. The Tonk 10-17 behind a 4-1/3" dome w/o a diopter is very sweet. Stewart, Do you have the EVF? If so, what is the eye point (max distance from the finder screen to eye) w/o optical vinetting? Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luca.scampini 0 Posted August 24, 2011 I'm hoping the new NEX-5N fits in the existing NEX-5 housing...or just needs minimal tweaking. =) Me too. Looking at the specification of both bodies, dimensions are exactly the same and - comparing pictures available - it seems that the only button that has slightly changed position is the playback one, moved from top panel and now adjacent to the movie record button. Maybe guys from Nauticam can reveal if they had some pre-production body and clarify this matter… Luca Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart L. Sy 12 Posted August 24, 2011 @ Glen: Sorry, I have the NEX-5, not the 5N...plus that EVF is pricey at $350... @ Luca: Can't tell you about the Nauticam, I'm an Aquatica dealer only. =). But having some experience in modding housings, an offset button won't be too hard to make. S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobiodon 63 Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) One overlooked item in the flood of new sony goodies is the LA-EA2 adapter: With this adapter you can use any sony alpha lenses, minolta lenses and 3rd party offers for the mount (e.g. tamron 60mm macro). It has own motor for screw drive type AF, so pretty old lenses can be used as well. I was wondering why not to create a similar modul for canon and nikon lenses?? It's a good step towards a perfect modular system. Edited August 25, 2011 by gobiodon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart L. Sy 12 Posted August 25, 2011 This module would likely not fit in a housing meant for a NEX-5 and E-mount lens. If the module were same as lens diameter maybe, but with the extra bits on the bottom, I don't think so. S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnSu 1 Posted August 25, 2011 btw, 3 words to sony. LENSES LENSES LENSES. I am a confused, I though the micro 4/3s cameras could use lenses from any micro 4/3s manufacturer? Also, will micro 4/3s work with wet lenses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted August 25, 2011 I am a confused, I though the micro 4/3s cameras could use lenses from any micro 4/3s manufacturer? Also, will micro 4/3s work with wet lenses? The NEX(s) are NOT 4/3-ers (Oly & PanY). They are APS-C sensor ~ 1.5 crop factor from full 35 x 26 mmm sensor. The lens adapter has a tripod mount on the bottom. I doubt any manufacturer will make a NEX housing that can use this. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bvanant 195 Posted August 25, 2011 The NEX(s) are NOT 4/3-ers (Oly & PanY). They are APS-C sensor ~ 1.5 crop factor from full 35 x 26 mmm sensor. The lens adapter has a tripod mount on the bottom. I doubt any manufacturer will make a NEX housing that can use this. Bob That's why god invented the Dremel. It is too bad about the adapter, I was getting really excited but it is clearly too big to fit in the Nauticam housing and sony still doesn't have any lenses yet. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sterlingz 0 Posted August 26, 2011 The NEX 7 looks to be a very exciting camera. I had a chance to shoot the NEX-5 in the Nauticam housing at the Digital Shootout this year, and really loved it. Between the 18-55 with an add-on dioptre and the 16mm pancake with the fisheye adapter, it's a pretty versatile little system. Would love to see some movement from Sigma on new E-mount lenses, especially longer macro options. The achilles heel was the control set, and adding the two additional dials is a masterstroke to solve this. The price point is pretty brutal, but probably to be expected for 24MP 10fps. I really like the Micro 4/3 system, especially for the lens selection, and I'll be really interested to see what becomes of the GF-7. But I have to say, I'm definitely more tempted than ever by the NEX system. Really great that it looks like the NEX-5N is physically identical. Exciting times in the mirrorless world! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted August 26, 2011 That's why god invented the Dremel. It is too bad about the adapter, I was getting really excited but it is clearly too big to fit in the Nauticam housing and sony still doesn't have any lenses yet.Bill Yep-ers, but a 3rd party would likely make an adapter sans the tripod mount. With only one control, this system would be limited to primes for MF. I have the Nexus multi-port (focus or zoom control in the port) that could be adapted to the Nauti, but it would dwarf the housing. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnSu 1 Posted August 26, 2011 The NEX(s) are NOT 4/3-ers (Oly & PanY). They are APS-C sensor ~ 1.5 crop factor from full 35 x 26 mmm sensor. Thanks for that explanation, I didn't realize that! I thought the Mirrorless interchangeable-lens cameras were all using the same system (I should have read more about it on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirrorless_in...le-lens_camera) NOW I understand why divephotoguide's NEX-5 review made such a deal about the lack of lens availability. Damn, was all set to buy this upon release, as I am ready to upgrade from my canon S90. SO, back to the drawing board...do I buy the Nikon D7000, wait for Sony to bring out some more lenses, or wait for Panasonic to bring out a camera with similar specs as the NEX-7??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobiodon 63 Posted August 26, 2011 Yep-ers, but a 3rd party would likely make an adapter sans the tripod mount. With only one control, this system would be limited to primes for MF. I have the Nexus multi-port (focus or zoom control in the port) that could be adapted to the Nauti, but it would dwarf the housing.Bob I think you misunderstood this adapter. It has his own motor and phase-detect AF support, so it will autofocus with all alpha lens with and without motor built in the lens. Sony has currently 3 AF macro (30mm, 50mm, 100mm) and they are excellent. You can also use the unique 200mm minolta macro (if you find it used). In addition, you can use the 3rd party offers of tamron and sigma (tokina has only 1 wide zoom for sony mount), so you have a wide range of choice for quality fix and zoom lenses. There are a wide range of adapters supporting practically any lens on the nex system but MF only. It's been available for long time. You can use even the 10-17mm tokina but without AF. In theory, it would be possible to build something similar to support nikon and canon lenses. It was clearly not designed for underwater use, but after refinement of the adapter, and including it in the housing design, I see some potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted August 26, 2011 Thanks for that explanation, I didn't realize that! I thought the Mirrorless interchangeable-lens cameras were all using the same system (I should have read more about it on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirrorless_in...le-lens_camera) NOW I understand why divephotoguide's NEX-5 review made such a deal about the lack of lens availability. Damn, was all set to buy this upon release, as I am ready to upgrade from my canon S90. SO, back to the drawing board...do I buy the Nikon D7000, wait for Sony to bring out some more lenses, or wait for Panasonic to bring out a camera with similar specs as the NEX-7??? John, I'm in the same boat. I am trying to decide between two apples and one watermelon: NEX-7 (8/11), GF7 (1/12?), and D400 (2-3/12?). Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deep6 7 Posted August 26, 2011 I think you misunderstood this adapter. It has his own motor and phase-detect AF support, so it will autofocus with all alpha lens with and without motor built in the lens. Thanks for the explanation; I didn't realize it would have AF. I have a Dremel Tool and know how to use it! "If you build it, they will come." - The Voice from "The Field of Dreams” or may be it was Teddy Roosevelt talking about the Panama Canal. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jock 14 Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) Hi, I am just on my way back to Germany from a two-week-trip to Pulau Pef / Raja Ampat. Thanks to the kindness of Claudia Claudia Pellarini-Joubert and Leon Joubert, the resident photo-pros, I had the opportunity to test for one day the NEX 5 with a fisheye adapter in an Aquapazza housing, equipped with two YS-110a strobes. The new NEX 7 obviously is improved in one point that was frustrating: Changing time and f-stop is a pest with the NEX 5. Of course, it does work, but boy... so complicated. You have to press a button to choose if you wish to change time or f-stop, then turn a wheel (which sometimes did not have enough grip - poor design of the housing!! ) to change the values, then press the button again twice to select the other option, then turn the wheel again. Ooops - the nudibranch has run away!! The new design of the NEX 7 will eliminate this source of frustration. BUT: There was one more thing that I was not used to (I must confess - I still shoot ANALOG with a Nikonos RS) - and this is the time I have to wait in betwen pictures. With my trusty old Ikelite strobes I can fire and fire, and they recharge almost instantly. The YS110a are not bad - but the camera' internal strobe is! The internal strobe triggers the external strobes, and so I did have to wait for the next shot until the internal strobe (which was set to "Fill Flash") had recycled. Baaah. A couple of seconds! And again, the nudi... When I look at the specs of the new NEX 7 it says "4 seconds recycle time". My old Olympus SP 350, which I take with me just for fun from time to time, does better! It has a mode where I can set the strobe power from 1 to 10, so when I use the lowest power (which would be good enough for triggering) it recycles very fast. Does the NEX 7 has such a feature??? If not, I find this to be more of a problem than lens choice, at least for me. See two images I attach from my test-day, they are "good enough" for me (technically, i.e. sharpness, exposure etc), considered that they were my first shots with that camera. Why do I bother? Because sooner or later I am afraid I will have to say "R.I.P" to my good old, trusty RS. Kind regards, Jock Edited August 29, 2011 by Jock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites