Rocha 0 Posted September 29, 2011 Haha, hey all, check this post by Nikon on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikon/posts/10150316773294620 According to the post, Nikon thinks "a photographer is only as good as the equiment that he uses". What do you think? Is it the photographer or the gear that makes the photo? Can a good photographer that good photos with crappy gear? Food for thought... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
focker 15 Posted September 30, 2011 I believe a good photographer or true artist can do amazing things with minimal tools... my .02 cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drew 0 Posted September 30, 2011 Well I've seen some fantastic tarpon fishing pics taken by a twin reflex camera and magnesium flash, with no auto focus or metering or any of the modern SLR technology. Alex Majoli shot quite of bit of his war photography on p&s cameras, but he's now progressed to interchangeable lens EVILs. Certainly a good photographer is needed to compose and hit the shutter, but likewise, the equipment have to fit the job requirements as well. I think it's a symbiotic where one can't do without the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marjo 8 Posted September 30, 2011 A good photographer has the tools appropriate for the job, the knowledge of how to use the tools and masters essential photographic techniques. In addition they should understand composition, vision, message. That is the foundation. Creativity, "eye", artistic skills are great and necessary as well, but but being able to "see" an image doesn't help much if you dont have the tools and knowledge to create the actual image. Then you need patience, persistence, planning and the opportunities and abilities to place you in proximity of whatever the subjects are. So my answer would be yes and no: Yes, you need good tools to be a good photographer. No, good tools are not enough to make a good photographer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uw_nikon 0 Posted September 30, 2011 There are plenty of bad images taken with superior equipment. I've seen people shoot 400+ images in a day of diving and get 2 or 3 decent images, nothing outstanding. (Your pencil draws pretty images. Not really true.) For: composition vision capturing the moment exposure point of focus lighting, etc., it's the photographer not the equipment. (knowledge and experience) Great optics can provide an edge (but, without applied knowledge and experience that edge is very limited). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Williams 0 Posted September 30, 2011 I found it interesting that when we took a shot at defining the path to great U/W photography; http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?showt...40&start=40 the subject of camera equipment didn't even come up. I believe it was Mr. Adams who said the most important part of any camera is the 12 inches behind it. Cheers, Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamhanlon 0 Posted September 30, 2011 I think there will be some poor soul from Nikon PR department looking for a new job. Nikon has officially apologized for the post. http://www.facebook.com/nikon/posts/10150317515979620 Nikon seem to be struggling with their PR; there was the infamous press release saying they hasn't said anything recently It is interesting how strong a reaction this has had. Would this have been any less strong if it wasn't a camera manufacturer making the statement? Adam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loftus 42 Posted September 30, 2011 Just wait till I get my D800 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viz'art 24 Posted September 30, 2011 I say, because I ended up with the paint brushes of Leonardo Da Vinci don't mean I will paint like him. A good paint brush doesn't make you a better artist, but a good artist will appreciate a better paintbrush. I think the whole sentences must have made some kind of sense in Japanese before it was translated to English in Google it does not change my opinion of the company's product, but does change my opinion on who they hire to speak for them, very poor judgment in this case and I hope that Nikon recognizes this and act upon it. Like, buddy, here is a short pier, now go do the honourable thing and take a long walk on it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yahsemtough 0 Posted September 30, 2011 Does this mean somehow working backwards that I now have to thank Jean for my underwater images. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Douglas 16 Posted September 30, 2011 While I am talking video rather than photography, I would rather have someone film with an old Sony HDV cam who knew what they were doing than someone shooting with a Red One who did not. Better equipment does not provide better skills, the better the gear the more you can do with the skills you have developed but it takes gaining the knowledge and skills first to be an improved shooter. My 2 cents Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIKE POWELL 1 Posted September 30, 2011 A friend of mine recently saw some of my pics and said "WOW...That must be a nice camera!" Wait till he picks up one of his many guitars to pluck a tune...."Wow nice guitar....It almost plays itself!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpio_fish 5 Posted September 30, 2011 I recall this conversation: Her, "If you buy that camera (Canon), will you be able to take pictures like Eric? (As in Cheng) Then you should buy one." Me, "If I thought the answer was yes, I would buy one as soon as we get back home, but the answer is no. Oh, and thanks for the encouragement." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl 7 Posted September 30, 2011 I think there will be some poor soul from Nikon PR department looking for a new job. Nikon has officially apologized for the post. http://www.facebook.com/nikon/posts/10150317515979620 Nikon seem to be struggling with their PR; there was the infamous press release saying they hasn't said anything recently It is interesting how strong a reaction this has had. Would this have been any less strong if it wasn't a camera manufacturer making the statement? Adam Maybe not - look at all the publicity this comment has generated on all forums. It's publicity - good or bad so they have done their job However, next time they may choose a different comment Karl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otara 0 Posted September 30, 2011 Nothing worse in advertising than being too obvious about one of the main motivators for buying new equipment, ie that this latest piece will help me finally take good pictures. Any individual might be perfectly sensible about buying equipment, but as a group, camera buyers arent buying new equipment solely for rational reasons. Otara Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robographer 0 Posted October 13, 2011 Unfortunately I have to say that the statement" Is a photographer only as good as the equipment he uses" is the common attitude you read is different forums. As you might know I only use a P&S camera and posted a photo once in a forum (forgot (suppressed? )which forum) and the first reactions were quite positive until my answer to the question what camera I used. From that point on the photo was rubbish... . When I posted another photo and told them I took it with a "state of the art $10,000 rig" that photo was suddenly the best photo they ever saw . I am very happy that the WetPixel members leave everything at its value!! I am happy to be on board! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bvanant 167 Posted October 16, 2011 I think that maybe we are all protesting too much. Clearly great photographers can make great images with many kinds of cameras. Cartier Bresson was famous for using small cameras but they were Leicas and not Holgas. I think that it is true that the logo on the camera or lens doesn't make much difference but there are many kinds of pics that can not be taken with any camera/lens combo. If you want to shoot wide angle reef scenes you don't want to be shooting a 150 mm macro lens, and if you are after the eyeball in a developing anemone fish egg you don't want your kit 18-55 zoom lens. While it is true that great photographers can use pretty much all kinds of gear, it is also true that mostly they use equipment good enough for the job but also appropriate for the job. Any reasonable body with the right lens for the job will work, but I am pretty sure that the sailfin picture on the cover of the last wetpixel quarterly was shot with a 105 macro lens. I totally get the idea that the Nikon ad guy was trying to say. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonny shaw 16 Posted October 18, 2011 Great photographers can take a great image with crappy equipment but would that image look better if shot with great gear, of course. Give a crap shooter great gear and of course they won't take a great image... in fact lets face it generally to use high end gear you actually need to have a decent knowledge base to even get an image. I am also from video not stills and at a professional level gear needs to be at a minimum standard, if it isn't you don't get work. Yes if you caught some amazing image everyone would pay for it, but for my bread and butter you need decent kit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Bantin 101 Posted October 18, 2011 I totally get the idea that the Nikon ad guy was trying to say. Bill He was trying to say "Buy Nikon kit"! I agree that you need the right tool for the job. However, I have recently reverted to my D200 kit and get results that area s super as ever they were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Rogerson 0 Posted October 29, 2011 So why did you go back to the D200 John? I think they are more than adequate for most tropical underwater photography, so I've been keeping one of mine as a backup. Would it be a mistake to sell, do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Bantin 101 Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) So why did you go back to the D200 John? I think they are more than adequate for most tropical underwater photography, so I've been keeping one of mine as a backup. Would it be a mistake to sell, do you think? ...because I get excellent results, I have two, and, quite frankly, why flood or simply wear out a more expensive camera? Did you see my uncredited pictures (A1 size) all around the NEC Dive Show (in the VIP lounge, the organiser's office, the photo lecture zone and some very big ones outside)? Nearly every one was taken with a D200. I challenge anyone to spot those few taken with an FX camera. Another reason to hold on to your D200 is that the Nikon factory in Thailand is out of action for the foreseeable future and you may not be able to get a DX DSLR replacement to go with the lenses you have. Edited October 30, 2011 by John Bantin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites