NWDiver 42 Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) So the new Olympus housing for the E-PL3 is in. Like previous Oly housings it is well built and fairly well laid out. The buttons are arranged so they are accessible by cold water divers wearing heavy gloves. Like previous Oly housings you just attach the supplemental flash, drop it and go. We did play with their "Target Light for Macro Photography" and like most feel it could have, should have been left off. But that said it is useable in low light situations at no more than 12-15". Push one button it comes on, push again to turn it off. A few quick pics to give a rough idea of how it works. Edited December 8, 2011 by NWDiver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWDiver 42 Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) For those interested here is a comparison of the Olympus E-PL3 Housing and its Target Lights vs. the Fantasea 30 lumen Nano Focus light. So super rough guess is the Olympus Target lights total around 10 lumens (+/-) ten lumens Fantasea Nano Light on Left, Olympus Target lights on Right Edited December 9, 2011 by NWDiver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) lights pretty sad. Is the epl3 focus speed enough faster to be worth buying, compared the the epl2, at a hundred less for the camera, and a couple hundred for the housing? Edited December 10, 2011 by derway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWDiver 42 Posted December 12, 2011 As to focus capture, they will claim it is improved and it does work well for this class but can't say there is a Major difference. The single biggest upgrade is in the video upgrade to 1080. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philwat44@gmail.com 0 Posted December 14, 2011 This looks like it has threads on the front of the housing. Will it take 67mm wet lenses? That would be handy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meme.may.fire 2 Posted December 14, 2011 This looks like it has threads on the front of the housing. Will it take 67mm wet lenses? That would be handy. it does, and it is 67mm. did a little bit of discussion on this focus light + stacking closeup lens with Phil on scubaboard. By the looks of it, the closeup lens will be blocking the lights. If u stack em up really good that is.. Maybe NWDiver is kind enough to show us.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWDiver 42 Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Well here is an attempt to show the issues. Olympus really only designs these to be used with their Doubler. Here I stacked the Fix +5 and Fix+8 as pictured here. This shot is with the +5 and +8 shot at the correct distance. Issue is there is a Diamond shape dark spot the Target Lights do not cover. It is not untill you move the camera port about 7" from the subject the lights converge. Distance when the Target lights converge. Taken with just the +8 Fix. The cross is 1" across. So can be used with just one Diopter but stacking will be an issue, to some degree if you don't use a focus light. Any questions or explinations will try to answer. Edited December 14, 2011 by NWDiver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philwat44@gmail.com 0 Posted December 14, 2011 Many thanks NWDiver, that's very clear. Great explanatory photos. At the other end of the scale (wide), would it work with wide-angle wet lenses like the INON or the Dyron 14mm do you think? Or would it suffer from the standard problem of vignetting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWDiver 42 Posted December 15, 2011 Not what you asked for but you might find it useful Shot with a Ikelight W-20 Wide-Angle Lens, .56x Magnification. This was zoomed out at 14mm Now at about 19mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philwat44@gmail.com 0 Posted December 15, 2011 Yep very useful, thanks. The W-20 tends to vignette with lots of different housings. Looks like this housing would work well underwater with a wide wet lens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaynor 0 Posted December 18, 2011 I am considering buying this set up in the new year and have a number of questions before making such an investment. To let you know what I want to get out of a new camera - I dive in the Mediterranean all year around (usually wearing gloves and going off the shore, hence I need a fairly compact and light set up that is not ging to be too fiddly). I am a volunteer doing marine conservation research and I take lots of species ID photos, mainly for use on websites although I have had one published in a book on Costa Brava species. I'm aiming to get better photos of the many tiny nudibranchs that we are surveying off the coast of Catalunya. Does anyone have any underwater photos with it yet? How user friendly will it be for someone who has only used point and shoot so far? I have Epoch macro and fisheye wet lenses from a previous setup. Will they fit? I guess I need to buy a strobe, which would be best to go with this housing for mainly macro subjects? I would appreciate any feedback and advice. Thanks Gaynor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencerjb22 4 Posted December 19, 2011 I am considering buying this set up in the new year and have a number of questions before making such an investment. To let you know what I want to get out of a new camera - I dive in the Mediterranean all year around (usually wearing gloves and going off the shore, hence I need a fairly compact and light set up that is not ging to be too fiddly). I am a volunteer doing marine conservation research and I take lots of species ID photos, mainly for use on websites although I have had one published in a book on Costa Brava species. I'm aiming to get better photos of the many tiny nudibranchs that we are surveying off the coast of Catalunya. Does anyone have any underwater photos with it yet? How user friendly will it be for someone who has only used point and shoot so far? I have Epoch macro and fisheye wet lenses from a previous setup. Will they fit? I guess I need to buy a strobe, which would be best to go with this housing for mainly macro subjects? I would appreciate any feedback and advice. Thanks Gaynor Hi, I have the following set up: E-PL3 OLy Housing Inon UCL 165'S Inon 100 type 2 Wide Wet Oly 14-42 Oly 9-18mm Zen Dome 1 x S/S YS110A I took it out for a play last week here in the Uk. I was merely testing the use and flexibility of the wet lens combos, I also took the zen dome for a test too. Here are some test images I took http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjburrows/set...57628371570265/ a lot qere taken without using the strobe, I was simply there to have a play with settings and get used to everything when using different combinations etc. I found that the inon wet lens (underwater) only need to zoom to 15/16mm to rid any vignetting. My conclusion is that for me, the wet lens system is a great flexible option, meaning that I can take most types of shot all in one dive, however if I want to venture for wide shots then the zen dome + oly wide is the option i'll take. The Zen dome + oly still produced macro shots i'm happy enough with ( see crayfish shots) all taken with the zen dome and cropped in. Both system are light, compact and I found a pleasure to use. The housing really works and ergonomics are spot on. I have moved from an S90 and didn't find the housing size etc really that much bigger. I found the performance much enhanced. Focus is super quick and shutter lag superb. Very pleased with it so far. I am due to go to The Madives in 3 weeks, so will be able to really test and hammer this when out there. Any questions, please ask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaynor 0 Posted December 19, 2011 Hi Thank you so much for sharing your photos and your experience with the E-PL3 set up. It sounds great! Is your housing the PT-EPO5L? And does the strobe need a fibre optic cable? The photos look clear and crisp. I'm pleased to hear that it handles so well. Did you use the target light with the lobster or the strobe? The housing looks pretty robust, and it sounds like it was easy to grip and to change settings with gloves on? I would love to see your pictures from the Maldives. I went there last March and took some very pleasing shots with just my little Canon without a strobe (which then flooded for no aparent reason when I was back home in the Med, which has put me off Ikelite housings). Let me know how it goes. I'm looking to buy in February. Gaynor Hi, I have the following set up: E-PL3 OLy Housing Inon UCL 165'S Inon 100 type 2 Wide Wet Oly 14-42 Oly 9-18mm Zen Dome 1 x S/S YS110A I took it out for a play last week here in the Uk. I was merely testing the use and flexibility of the wet lens combos, I also took the zen dome for a test too. Here are some test images I took http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjburrows/set...57628371570265/ a lot qere taken without using the strobe, I was simply there to have a play with settings and get used to everything when using different combinations etc. I found that the inon wet lens (underwater) only need to zoom to 15/16mm to rid any vignetting. My conclusion is that for me, the wet lens system is a great flexible option, meaning that I can take most types of shot all in one dive, however if I want to venture for wide shots then the zen dome + oly wide is the option i'll take. The Zen dome + oly still produced macro shots i'm happy enough with ( see crayfish shots) all taken with the zen dome and cropped in. Both system are light, compact and I found a pleasure to use. The housing really works and ergonomics are spot on. I have moved from an S90 and didn't find the housing size etc really that much bigger. I found the performance much enhanced. Focus is super quick and shutter lag superb. Very pleased with it so far. I am due to go to The Madives in 3 weeks, so will be able to really test and hammer this when out there. Any questions, please ask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencerjb22 4 Posted December 20, 2011 Hi Thank you so much for sharing your photos and your experience with the E-PL3 set up. It sounds great! Is your housing the PT-EPO5L? And does the strobe need a fibre optic cable? The photos look clear and crisp. I'm pleased to hear that it handles so well. Did you use the target light with the lobster or the strobe? The housing looks pretty robust, and it sounds like it was easy to grip and to change settings with gloves on? I would love to see your pictures from the Maldives. I went there last March and took some very pleasing shots with just my little Canon without a strobe (which then flooded for no aparent reason when I was back home in the Med, which has put me off Ikelite housings). Let me know how it goes. I'm looking to buy in February. Gaynor Hi Gaynor, Sorry to hear of the flood. Yes, that is the housing I have. I used gloves when using the housing. In fact as I was only testing this day I used 5mm Mits instead of normal gloves, just to see how easy it was to use with what I tought might be the most tricky to use. I had no issues at all even using the mits in 7 degrees of water. The Crayfish pics were taken using the zen dome, which doesn't have target lights. So i simply used the strobe focus light. I didn't really use the target light on the housing that day. I always use fibre optic cables, I use the Sea and Sea one, however I believe that there is a cheaper 10 bar one that can be used also which is around half the price of Sea and Sea, though I can't commment on whether it's good or not. I was happy with the pics, as really I was just playing and not really focusing too much on the composition or using much strobe etc. I really wanted to get a feel for the housing/camera controls, playing with the menu and different settings. I wanted to get a feel for different ISO settings and such like. I think that once used to its full cabability the system will give good results. I am back from the Madives on the 23/1/12, so will post some images up then to hopefully give you a better idea of what the system can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philwat44@gmail.com 0 Posted December 27, 2011 Hi Spencer, do you have any photos from your Maldives trip? I enjoyed your Stoney Cove series. I am considering this combo as well for the same reasons as Gaynor (need compact shore-dive-friendly setup). Phil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgietler 1 Posted December 29, 2011 lights pretty sad. Is the epl3 focus speed enough faster to be worth buying, compared the the epl2, at a hundred less for the camera, and a couple hundred for the housing? http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?act=P...mp;qpid=297018# hey Don I tested both side by side and found that the E-pl3 focused notably faster. Whether that is worth the extra money is I think a personal choice. Scott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted January 1, 2012 Thanks Scott. For me bad & slow Auto focus is the bane of trying to use anything other than an SLR underwater. That is good to know, it is significantly faster. Aloha, and happy new year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencerjb22 4 Posted January 3, 2012 cheers Phil, I will be going next Sunday (15th) and returning on the 23rd. So will hope to have some pics for you around the 25/26th. I would agree with the comments about the AF being very quick. I have been impressed so far and looking forward to using it properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencerjb22 4 Posted January 25, 2012 Hello, Several people asked to me to pop some pics up after giving this system a proper test. I have posted them here in the relevant section http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=44883 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philwat44@gmail.com 0 Posted January 26, 2012 I just had a look at them - they are absolutely superb! As per my Flickr comment, I'm interested in any insights you might have about the camera after the trip, and what settings you used. I have just bought mine but am still learning how to drive it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencerjb22 4 Posted January 27, 2012 I just had a look at them - they are absolutely superb! As per my Flickr comment, I'm interested in any insights you might have about the camera after the trip, and what settings you used. I have just bought mine but am still learning how to drive it. Hi Phil, Ok, in general my week (18 dives) were a mixture of feelings, but as time went on, each dive I felt I was getting on with it much better. It's a learning curve and feel now I have a good grasp. I'm off to Mexico in a few months, so hoping to hit the ground ruinning from day one this time..haha. Having played with lots of settings I felt that using Manual was the best control, and it I generally used the following: ISO- 200 Shutter 160 (default setting) Aperture 7.1 - Seemed to be a good all round sharp aperture I used center AF focusing with a single spot - I stayed away from multipoint focus as it seemed to lose the plot. RAW WB - Auto One oversight on my part was that when changing ports, ensure that you reposition your strobe, some shots were not getting any light as the flash was getting blocked by the port. So just keep that in mind. I think if like me, you have two ports etc and haveonly just bought your system, just master one thing at a time, I think I tried too much too soon. In the end I just stuck with the kit lens, and wet macro dipoters. I found I was moving much quicker with the whole thing getting used to this first. I think if you're on a budget, the kit lens, kit port with wet lenses (macro and WA) is a super flexible solution. I've used WA lenses and been quite impressed - I also read a review from a well known photographer in the UK (duxy from OLC) who also shares that view. I can't say if the macro lights on the front are good or not, as I didn't really use them, I used the FL on my strobe. Thins I didn't like about the system, iso 200 would be better if 80/100 were available, the lowest strobe shutter sync was 160. That for me was an pain. It just means you need to look for other ways of say getting different levels of ambient light. On the whole though, I'm still really chuffed with it. It's compact, flexible, you can get a flexible solution from a low cost, and it performs well and has given me some results that I'm happy with. Now the initial getting used to the system is out of the way, I'm looking forward to having another serious play sometime soon! Any questions, let me know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philwat44@gmail.com 0 Posted January 28, 2012 I made one discovery today: my strobe slave is not firing reliably (strobe is a little Ikelite AF-35). That would explain some very dark photos! It is really designed for compacts so I might have to upgrade to one with a fibre-optic cable. I got a few semi-reasonable shots despite this, still nothing like your Maldives ones: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31166719@N06/ Changing to centre-AF as per your suggestion made a big difference - much easier to find focus. Unfortunately I didn't have my macro lens for the tiny nudi. The macro lights are pretty dinky & useless in daytime but I suppose they might work on a night dive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencerjb22 4 Posted January 28, 2012 I made one discovery today: my strobe slave is not firing reliably (strobe is a little Ikelite AF-35). That would explain some very dark photos! It is really designed for compacts so I might have to upgrade to one with a fibre-optic cable. I got a few semi-reasonable shots despite this, still nothing like your Maldives ones: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31166719@N06/ Changing to centre-AF as per your suggestion made a big difference - much easier to find focus. Unfortunately I didn't have my macro lens for the tiny nudi. The macro lights are pretty dinky & useless in daytime but I suppose they might work on a night dive. Hi Phil, the flathead shot is nice and sharp and clean, so looks like you're getting there. It took me a series of diives and playing with it etc before it fell into place, so a little more and you'll be well away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites