Ychng 0 Posted February 5, 2004 Beautiful sunballs, Stu! I so wish that viz was better -- in Sipadan by the time I reached 30' the sun was just a vague glow above You misunderstand -- the shutter button that broke is on the Canon Though I guess it might be Jonah's fault for not aligning the lever properly! I taped it over with Scotch tape and it kept going... Yeang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig 0 Posted February 5, 2004 Hey Yeang, Don't feel so bad, when I was in Anilao diving with Woody Mayhew, his Nexus Housing got preferred billing from the boatmen...and there were 2 of us with Subals on the boat! Stu Exactly as it should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bvanant 191 Posted February 5, 2004 I just heard from Mark at Inon USA and he says they might not release in USA due to support issues. End of February for him to know. BVA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james 0 Posted February 5, 2004 Bummer - it looks like a great housing. Cheers James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scubajack 0 Posted February 5, 2004 Thanks for all of the advice. I think I am leaning towards the Jonah now. For my purposes the dramatic price gap for the subal isn't justified by the few additional features. I'll keep everyone posted. Any suggestions on where I can get the cheapest jonah housing? Or are the standard places (UWphoto,etc.) the best route? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martys 0 Posted February 6, 2004 It's finally here! My Subal C10 arrived today along with a FP75/3 flat port for the Canon 50mm & 100mm macros, FE2 dome port for the Canon 15mm fisheye and an extension ring and zoom gear to use my Canon 17-35/f2.8L in the FE2 as well. What a beautiful work of craftsmanship this piece is. I can't wait to get this into the water Anyone want to buy a 1 year old Tetra 5000? :wink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart L. Sy 12 Posted February 6, 2004 Marty, You're going to love the C10, I'm diving up Jervis Inlet with mine in 2 weeks. Stu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bvanant 191 Posted February 8, 2004 "On a side note, the shutter button on my 10D broke off underwater! All of sudden I could only focus but not trip the shutter... apparently the shutter lever on the Jonah wasn't hitting the shutter button dead center, and the torque eventually broke the shutter button off. Am I the only one who thinks it's a little unusual for a housing to break the camera that is in it and people still want to buy the housing. I too am looking at a housing, stuffing the D10 in the Sea and Sea D60 housing only gives access to the shutter and command dials but at least nothing broke. Still hoping to see the Inon but proably be buying the Subal. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ychng 0 Posted February 8, 2004 Before I get sued for libel, I should say that it is only conjecture that the Jonah housing caused the button breakage on my 10D. I have not actually quantified the exact spot where the lever presses the shutter button -- it seemed the most likely explanation to me at the time though. After all, it could just be shoddy Canon plastics coupled with a very skinny (plastic) column under that big ol' shutter button on the 10D. Yeang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echeng 0 Posted February 8, 2004 I know photographers who have broken their D60 shutter buttons with Sea & Sea housing shutter leves. But I'll bet it's from mashing down too excitedly, because I've never broken mine that way. Jim Watt (one of the people who has broken the shutter) says that his Sea & Sea shutter contact point was slightly off center, which contributed to shutter failure. He ended up taping up the shutter area with black electrical tape to distribute and dampen the downward force. I believe David Fleetham just replaced the tip of his shutter lever to something fatter and softer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonah53 0 Posted February 9, 2004 If this is the case by accidently hit the shutter lever which induces breakage of the shutter button, it is becuase the lever is too close to the button. Probably, we should move back the shutter lever a little bit, although the rotating angle becomes somewhat larger than before. It is easy to fix the problem, just straighten the lever a little bit by a plier or shorten the end of the shutter lever to avoid the accident. KTKIM, Jonah Housing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james 0 Posted February 9, 2004 For what it's worth - it's possible to break a camera's shutter button with ANY housing, whether it's Jonah, Sea and Sea, or Ikelite. With a big "lever arm" like we have inside the housing, you can put quite a bit of force into the shutter button. Add cold hands, dry gloves, and/or surge and you have to be careful. I broke the shutter on my Coolpix 990 and so did a friend of mine. It turns out we just couldn't deal with the shutter lag and just kept pushing harder and harder! Note to self: don't do that. Cheers James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart L. Sy 12 Posted February 9, 2004 FWIW, I've got about 30,000 exposures through my 10D body, of that, there were between 3000-4000 shutter releases using the C10 (that's releases, not counting the half press required for AF, god knows how many of those I have, both through the housing and just for topside shooting!)....so far (knock on wood), I've had no problems with the shutter button...this is the same with 2 other friends who have the C10, though I've had my 10D for longer than they. A friend with the Nexus D100 housing has had no problems either. My previous Subal housing for a Canon film body was also problem free. Stu :wink: p.s. and I've shot mine in both tropical and cold water conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocko 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Hi, I bought the Jonah housing in October last year and have only used it for one trip thus far, I took about 1200 exposures underwater and about 100 topside. The shutter release button on the camera shows no signs of wear or damage. My purchasing decision for this housing was primarily cost and availability at the time. The housing performed well IMHO and I was very happy with the results. The support from the distributor and manufacturer has been very good indeed and they are currently creating a custom zoom gear for another of my lens which I am planning to use on my next trip in April. The total cost was around $2194 plus tax this included the 30mm extension and the 4" dome port. Cheers, Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scubajack 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Thanks again for all of the replies. If cost were no factor, I'd get the subal. Unfortunately, however, it is and I still can't find a good enough reason to justify the additional costs for what I am trying to do. I think I'm gonna go with the Jonah housing. I'm pricing it now and maybe by next week I be able to post what happened. Thanks again for all of the input...and you still have a few days to help me change my mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart L. Sy 12 Posted February 10, 2004 Good luck on whatever you decide. In the end, it's not the nuts and bolts of the camera and housing that make a good image...it's the nut behind it! Stu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites