DamonA 7 Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) What chance does a fishery have with this operating in it? http://www.abc.net.a...ed/4190740.html something crooked has gone down! http://www.themercur...mania-news.html Send this guy an email...... http://www.tonyburke.com.au/ Edited August 15, 2012 by DamonA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derway 2 Posted August 16, 2012 Thanks Damon. I just sent this email: Dear Minister Watson. I love diving the great barrier reef, most of all the spots in the world, I have ever been. Please protect your oceans from mega factory fishing boats, such as the FV Margiris. I want to see plentiful life, next time I return to your glorious oceans! Thanks Don Erway Pasadena, CA, USA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonA 7 Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Hey Don Thanks! But his name is tony burke! he is a burke! Mine was more heavy handed! Dear Tony, You should look for work! because you wont have job after this.......JOKE! Your a Joke to let this happen! http://www.themercur...mania-news.html http://www.abc.net.a...ed/4190740.html Regards, Damon Edited August 17, 2012 by DamonA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenny 5 Posted August 17, 2012 Super trawlers take everything - everything. They drag 600 metre nets and process 250 tonnes of marine life a day - A DAY! They are known to have decimated fish stocks In West Africa and have been banned. Sadly too late. And now one is heading my way. Please take a couple of minutes and go to www.greenpeace.or/australia/eng (sorry don't know how to make a link) and sign the petition. I know petitions seem a little quaint, but politics here in Australia are strange at the moment. The government has a fragile hold on numbers in parliament, and we are heading to an election next year. This means they are listening, particularly if you take just a little extra time to personalize the green peace letter. Cheers, Jenny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenny 5 Posted August 17, 2012 Hi Damon, I didn't see this post? I was so furious when I saw the greenpeace notice, I just banged out a similar shout out. Emailing Bourke is a great idea, I'll do that immediately. Apparently the Magris is heading towards the pristine waters off Tasmania - what genius is making these decisions? I think I'm going to vomit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonA 7 Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) 600m nah the nets are 2.5km's, it isn't a trawler its a Purse Seine hauler! I am so mad about this, its a disgrace! They have a purchased a quota for 18,000,000(thats kg) 18 million kgs from some @rsehole pro in tasmania for striped tuna! (skipjack to americans). Thats bad enough but I have suspicion that this boat will leave our shores loaded up with big sthn Blueys frozen up after cashing their Stripeys. Even the local tuna pros are scream mad about this- Burkie needs his head kick in for this stupidity! might wake him up! Labor party what a bunch of crooks cashing in before the next election- they know how it's going to go, be lucky to hold the public service vote..... This boat would make a great wreck dive! These things should be outright outlawed from being wrighted! Edited August 17, 2012 by DamonA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenny 5 Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Oh my, 2.5 km, it is obscene. This is what I wrote - "Dear Minister Bourke, Firstly, congratulations on your recent decision to create a large marine park. I was really relieved. I understand how difficult it is to strike the right balance between protecting the environment and supporting economic activity which in the end supports the standard of living we are so lucky to enjoy here in Australia. And of course, the two, environment and the economy, are deeply inter dependent. So well done. Frankly, I wouldn't have your job for quids. But it is your job, and now you are going to have to make decisions about that super trawler currently prowling around Australian waters. I cannot see how this operation can, in any way, be a positive thing. Are there jobs involved? Spin off technological advances? Exceptional taxation revenue? I'd like to propose that the Australian Government ban super trawlers from operating in Australian waters. Pretty simple really. Please let me know what you think." I expect unleashing DamonA would be more effective, but you have to do something. Edited August 18, 2012 by Jenny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimSwims 31 Posted August 19, 2012 I expect unleashing DamonA would be more effective, but you have to do something. I've seen the unleashed DamonA posting on DiveOz as DA and its not a pretty sight! Nice balanced letter Jenny, much better than a rant. I do agree this monster of a ship is a real worry, what concerns me most is the sheer volume of by-catch that it would take. http://vnpa.org.au/page/nature-conservation/take-action/giant-super-trawler-headed-our-way http://stopthetrawler.net/ Cheers, Jim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonA 7 Posted August 22, 2012 I've seen the unleashed DamonA posting on DiveOz as DA and its not a pretty sight! Nice balanced letter Jenny, much better than a rant. Jim, can you please keep your snide remarks to yourself-this is not diveoz- I find your remarks personally offensive. Cheers, Damon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimSwims 31 Posted August 27, 2012 Jim, can you please keep your snide remarks to yourself-this is not diveoz- I find your remarks personally offensive. Cheers, Damon Hi Damon, sorry I'm not looking to offend "I've seen the unleashed DamonA posting on DiveOz as DA and its not a pretty sight!" was just meant as a tongue in cheek observation. You are so right that this is not DiveOz and the standard of etiquette/moderation here is so much better. Unfortunately all I have to go by is what I have read in the past on that site. Cheers, Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonA 7 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Suggesting someones oppinion or idea is a "rant", to me is offensive. What's diveoz got to do with that on this forum, here and now? All I can see in your comment is tar and feathers, a stitch job -" Unfortunately all I have to go by is what I have read in the past on that site." Considering I joined this forum to get information about UW photography and share a like mindness- maybe even make new friends! - your comments don't help that much, already being my own worst enemy, thru lack of english language skills..... You want inside? Hi Damon Sorry for the late reply, this was in my spam system, go figure. I know you did not start that way, but that’s how it ended up. I have my eye on others as well. Sorry it came to this. Cheers Neil From: Damon Alagich Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:29 AM To: webguy@diveoz.com.au Subject: Re: Sent From Dive-Oz Discussion Forums - We've Gone Virtual!! by Webguy Neil, I didn't start like that, just a few types there got the better of me. Hope things improve now , Damon Pretty much the same sidewinding your pulling on me right now!!!!!!! I've stayed in tune with the site, which isn't rating well and certainly couldn't be name "diveoz" honestly- more like divevic! Talks about rebreathers/drysuits/trimix and other highend/elite forms of diving seem to hold the mainframe of discussion, even if they are still underwater cyclist when you actual dive with these "champions".... some of which didn't even start as skindivers and have terrible aquanaughtical ablities and are horribly unfit/overweight! Nothing that makes diving mainstream popular and here its sad the rec turnout compare to euro zone or usa. Seems to me personally, paid for comment dominates totally. And its chorus of baiting sychophants! Me, I was a kid that skindived after 10y.o use to catch the bus to manly wharf 441 to look at sea horses, john dory and yellowtailed kings, even mack tuna.... my motives are clear as crystal, I grew up with diving and it has my heart....I still feel safetest solo diving, fish almost smile at me now, because they know how I feel about them, a guardian, a true human- not perfect! I used to spearfish now its only a camera, Its dumb people that think fish are stupid! Having the surname Alagic, half danube/ irish celtic/roman and having redhair, I have learned alot about the anglo-saxon outlook/hegemony on 1stworld humanity, oneday this will change. The platitudes that many hide behind, are being exposed as the level of understanding in this world is increasing, I am an optomist about humans. Soon we will get back our "likeness" connection to nature- probably as this corrupt capitalist system dies its long welcomed death. Next time you make a personal comment- you'll get no reply at all. Mr Peake' Edited August 28, 2012 by DamonA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimSwims 31 Posted August 30, 2012 Back on topic, seems like something fishy is going on- http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/super-trawler-deal-perverted-20120824-24s6f.html Cheers, Jim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnjvv 11 Posted August 30, 2012 There was a poll this morning on Radio 3aw Talkback and 97% said no to the trawler....I will call them tomorrow morning pointing them to this article... Those living in Australia why not do the same? If they get enough calls, they might kick up a fuss and insist on answers in true 3aw fashion.... Number is 03 96 900 693 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonA 7 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Thanks John for your meaningful imput! even commercial radio has a impact! had a lot of pensioners watching sexc Ranger Stacy for a while now! you add impact to the perphery. Jim you've showed yourself as "a slow to the facts" kinda guy, good job! and after that your speak of "off topic" wow blow me down sailor! "something crooked has gone down!" http://www.heraldsun...g-1226460284320 "Seafish Tasmania, the firm which wants to catch 18,000 tonnes of baitfish off the coasts of NSW, Victoria, Tasmania, South Australia and Western Australia, had studied the effectiveness of seal excluders on their trawlers and found seals died in every second trawl." Edited August 30, 2012 by DamonA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimSwims 31 Posted August 30, 2012 Had a listen to the 3AW mornings slot on pod-cast the poll result was heartening but will it translate into some consistent public pressure on the decision makers. http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1682840/Factbox:-The-debate-around-super-trawler-%27Margiris%27/ http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1684843/Dolphin-risk-could-stop-super-trawler Cheers, Jim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnjvv 11 Posted August 30, 2012 I think it can...call them tomorrow mate!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonA 7 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) http://www.abc.net.a...826?section=tas Mr Geen needs to face a fruad charge I believe! AFMA needs to be investigated, it's legitimacy is questionable. Edited August 30, 2012 by DamonA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevster 6 Posted September 11, 2012 Great news!! Looks like the Australian Government has stopped the boat!!! http://www.news.com.au/business/labor-to-ban-super-trawler-abel-tasman-from-australian-waters/story-e6frfm1i-1226471683034 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonA 7 Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Great news!! Looks like the Australian Government has stopped the boat!!! http://www.news.com....i-1226471683034 It was us ALL!!!!! they OBEYED! they serve us, from now on! But we have to be active, epathetic and remain engaged! use our hearts and minds. SO GOOD NEWS MATE- DESTRUCTION HAS BEEN avioded for 24months............ WOOOOHOHOOOOOOOOO! good news this morning as the Australian parliament has banned one of the largest fishing trawlers in the world, the Dutch owned Margiris, from exploiting Australian waters for at least two years. Politicians have rightly demanded more research is needed to look into the full effects this super trawler will inevitably have on local fish populations, other marine species and the wider marine ecology. For more information on the inspiring campaign that secured this unprecedented success, visit: http://stopthetrawler.net/ Was feeling terribly depressed about this, but karma has feed back and we won it- so grateful to hear this! Edited September 11, 2012 by DamonA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnjvv 11 Posted September 11, 2012 Fingers crossed..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenny 5 Posted September 13, 2012 Woo hoo, the legislation passed through our fractious parliament yesterday. Thanks all for contributing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimSwims 31 Posted September 14, 2012 Woo hoo, the legislation passed through our fractious parliament yesterday. Thanks all for contributing! This is great news! Was getting worried it would stay bogged down or blocked in parliament. Great to see people from many different interest groups united in agreeing the super trawler was bad for all. Cheers, Jim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gee13 4 Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) A small win of course, however where is the trawler going to target next? What govt may be in a worse off financial situation and weaker to accept the proceeds...I fear the saga is not over... There should be an international ban on such destruction machines Edited September 16, 2012 by gee13 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonA 7 Posted September 17, 2012 A small win of course, however where is the trawler going to target next? What govt may be in a worse off financial situation and weaker to accept the proceeds...I fear the saga is not over... There should be an international ban on such destruction machines Really, I believe a vessel shouldn't be allowed in waters other then their own territory. And governemnts should put political pressure on oil companies that supply vessels that operate out of their own waters! I know we are in a lucky situation here in Australia, our borders aren't in territorial conflict with other countries (we gained sea area when timor split). Also our government is more likely to bow to popularous issues like this one (amatuer fishermen had a lot of impact here on this issue). Liberal or Labour' We can be that country; that shows the others up for lack of wise management/corrupt behaviours. Imagine being in a EU country??? how depressing would that be! 51% youth unemployment and 25% unemployment for over 25's in Spain.....there's a good chance the corruption there will hit the wall soon, even revolution maybe. see what happens it's far from over yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
